Ten-man Reds stun nine-man Roar in A-League

That’s a fallacy Ten men are notoriously difficult to play against, the defensive structure remains intact and it’s only the attack that is weakened. jb’s on the money I’m afraid, hopefully the fish are biting elsewhere though lol

How players and the ball are moved around is absolutely determined by the number of players on the pitch at any given time. If you have less players you are chasing players and the ball. The fishing is good as it seems that there is a tiger prawn on the hook!

He looked like bambi on ice didn’t he. I’ve only seen him play in preseason friendlies and, before this game, if you’d asked me what he was like I would have said okay, and a decent prospect for the future. I’d still say that but in this one game he looked like a kid you’ve had to put in goal, doesn’t normally play there but he “gave it a go”. Again, I suspect his performance was a reflection of the pressure the Roar players were under, pressure no one on or off the park seemed able to release

Pedro- The description you cite "Roar's best football in a long time" has nothing at all to do with numbers, it is an observation on how they, as a team,moved themselves ,and the ball ,around the field, resulting in 3 very good goals being scored. The fact that United lost a striker for a misdemeanor wouldn''t' make much difference as to how a well prepared defence should function ,and well prepared defences do not lose 3 goals in 20 minutes. Back to the fishing for you my friend. Cheers jb.

It was not hard for the Roar to play "... some of their best football for a long time in a 25 minute period in the first half,and had 3 goals to show for it" when the referee had reduced the opposition to 10 men with a ridiculous send off!

I watched the NYL Final as well, the stark contrast between how young Roar played the game and how the senior team play was obvious. Basically we have an academy playing one style, and a senior team another - which muppet thought that would be a good idea? Few if any are good enough for the HAL though, and the bridging of the gap between youth development and first team has to be one of the greatest challenges facing the game, not just Roar. Then yes, where too from here? Presumably the suits in Jakarta are involved, working with the suits in Logan, and some external suits seem to have been added. It might all work but raises the question - who is making the hiring decision on the new coach and who will be held accountable? There are now three bands of clubs in the competition, Roar find themselves in the bottom band and it’s going to be hard to change that. This winter they must compete with West Melbourne and Wanderers for Australian talent. Combined both clubs will be looking for something like 25-30 new players. Does Australia have enough to supply this? I’d say not, so who do Roar sign?

Waz - The more I investigate, the deeper the problem. I noted that the grand final of the youth league was being played live on TV so decided to watch the game to see if there was any "hopes" among the youngsters. Shannon Brady was the only name I recognised, and to be honest he was by far the best player on the field, but-----,Shannon has been tried 15 times at HAL level and was found still short of the standard. So back to the debacle that was in Adelaide. I actually thought Roar played some of their best football for a long time in a 25 minute period in the first half,and had 3 goals to show for it. After half time the proverbial "s..t hit the fan" and we were left to again wonder at how this team was ever put together,for there is no "on field leader apparent". so that we witnessed some desperate defence that saw balls being pumped anywhere ,usually coming straight back into the Roar back third. There could only be one outcome and the extra 7 minutes were just 7 minutes too far for Roar. With players like Oxborrow,Pepper,Negro,Bowles, Tongyik and now Lokoli being brought to the club are we actually witnessing a recruitment policy based on building a team out of players who ,putting it bluntly, have been tried elsewhere in the HAL, and found wanting. The lad Davies cannot be blamed for this of course.but as a disciple of Aloisi he should have moved on,or been moved on ,at the time of JA's departure. Whereto from here? only the people who run the club know the answer to that but it is a simple equation,do they want to challenge for top 4 positions or are the happy with what is happening just now?. I don't know the answer but maybe, hopefully, there is someone who does. jb.

Watching the Roar substitute goalie was the funniest thing I've seen since Bolt was running around. Is he the barman at Richlands?

Yeah, Davies worked with Aloisi at Victory and was recruited by Aloisi. The old saying is managers recruit staff in their own likeness so it’s not a surprise. Not that I’d expect Davies to sanction his squad in public mind you, but I was left with the impression that he - like Aloisi - is a bit of a wet-nurse to the players and the worst it will get is “there, there ... I’ll go easy on you in training this week”. God help them on Friday night with Sydney coming to Suncorp and no Jamie Young in goal. ALF could get a bucket load. Roar really need this season to end.

Last night and this season is a cultural thing. How far and how widespread it is within the club is debatable, Aloisi’s part in creating it is not. But I have to wonder what else contributed to creating almost the inverse culture seen under Anges time and one that was so cherished by supporters.

Agree. Youngs send off was a combination of sporting comedy and monumental misjudgement. Most players are prone to one or two within their careers and they are forgivable Young had more than his fare share when he first arrived at Roar and the fact he “reverted to type” last night probably demonstrates how much pressure Roar players were under in that second half. I’d like to hear that Davies half time team talk ... I recon the seeds of Roars downfall were planted in the changing room at half time.

Aloisi was the same, a glass half full kinda guy, that always went pretty light on his under performing players in the media. Which is an approach that can get the players to like you, but it doesn't necessarily generate results. Sometimes, a rocket is what is required..

I listened to Darren Davies post match press conference last night and he’s clearly a part of the problem. “I feel for the players” ... why? They are the problem, it is their fault .. if a coach isn’t prepared to address that there’s pretty much no hope.

After blowing a 3-0 lead against a 10 man opposition, there was no shouting at the TV or sense of bitterness because, even at 3-0 up I actually expected Brisbane to blow their lead, such has this once great club fallen. And didn't they implode in style. Their run of brain-snap red cards continued unabated, but the cracks were showing long before that in the early moments of the second half, as Brisbane cheaply turned over possession and put minimal pressure on Adelaide's attackers as their attacking opportunities quickly amassed. I feel for Darren Davies because he has bravely tried to bring in youth (the rise of Wenzall-Halles one of the few positives from the season), but the damage has been long done - a culture where ill-discipline has been allowed to flourish, and a pre-season recruitment drive bent on picking up more midfielders when some solid defenders so that Jamie Young wasn't just mere cannon fodder were what was sorely needed

Tim - For weeks now it has been a case of an opponent v Young for at least the first half of every game so there can be little doubt he will be looking forward to a week's rest. I could think of a few more Roar players who should have a "while on the sidelines" though it's not for getting a red card. jb.

The Aloisi boys' legacy at Brisbane Roar rolls on.

This match echoed Glory v WSW earlier in the season without the 3 red cards. But once Ingham got sent off the match turned (again) it's become a mental issue for Brisbane now they simply cannot close out games this season Terrific match for the neutral though :)

Jamie 'Schumacher ' Young should have a while on the sidelines.