Seven talking points from Six Nations Round 2

By Oliver Matthews / Expert

So another three matches in the Six Nations are done, and there’s lots to talk about.

There were wins for Ireland, Wales and England as the big guns in the Northern Hemisphere started to stamp their authority on the tournament but while the results weren’t surprising, there is plenty to discuss.

The importance of the kicking game
The first six matches of this year’s competition have seen a lot of kicking from all sides. One of the common factors for those teams that have won is that they have kicked well out of hand.

England especially have been able to expose weaknesses in Ireland and this weekend, France, by being able to kick in behind their defensive lines and find grass time and time again.

The French back three this weekend were torn to pieces by the England boot. Whether it was struggling to cope with the high ball or being found horribly out of place the French not just conceded territory but lots of points as well.

In the Scotland versus Ireland game, the Scottish played well in the first half and had huge amounts of territory and possession (more of that later) and they used the boot well.

Equally one of the reasons why Ireland were better this week was because they brought back Rob Carney at No.15 – his ability to read the opposition’s kicking game helped to diffuse the Scottish boot.

Eddie Jones made the interesting comment after the England game saying that with front line defenses being so strong and organised in the modern game, you have to use a good kicking game to get in behind.

For those sides who don’t have that strength – I’m looking at you Foley and Australia – they are going to struggle to build pressure and unlock teams.

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England fast starts backed up by solid finishes
This week and last week England scored their opening try inside the opening 9kickoffs of the kick off. This gave them confidence in both matches and put the opposition on the back foot straight away.

England didn’t halt there – they were up 21-3 inside 30 minutes. These fast starts aren’t brand new for England – against South Africa on last July’s tour they ran in tries early in both the first Tests.

What is different is that they then back up these fast starts with solid performances throughout the rest of the game.

Where in the past their fast starts were eventually overcome by the opposition, last weekend and this weekend they kept up their intensity and pulled further and further away from the opposition.

There were questions about whether England could repeat the intensity they displayed in the game against Ireland considering it was of such a high level, but they should at Twickenham that they are learning how to keep that foot pushed down hard once it’s on the opposition’s throats.

Scottish fans will be frustrated
At half time against the Irish, Scotland had just put in an impressive 40 minutes against one of the world’s best teams and would’ve felt unlucky not to be ahead. Could they kick on and turn that domination into a victory against the Irish?

However the reality is that they had bungled a great scoring chance at the end of the first half – and then were never able to threaten the Irish in the second half.

As the men in green started to play a clever, energy sapping, time-eating game, the Scots made silly errors and let the Irish control things.

The effort was still there from the Scottish but as much as Greig Laidlaw might want to blame referee Romain Poite the Scots started to become their own worst enemies.

This is what is stopping the Scots from breaking into that top bracket of world rugby. They are an exciting team with ball in hand and can scare any defence on this planet.

But, when it comes down to winning tight games against the best, they are just a little bit off the pace and haven’t got enough world class players to change games or control them.

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Carberry is sexy but he isn’t Sexton
When Johnny Sexton had to come off, the Scots would have felt that things were really going their way. His replacement – Joey Carbery – started with some average minutes as he tried, and failed, to play his way into a crucial game.

But as the minutes ticked past, the 23-year-old Carbery gained some confidence and found some rhythm.

He ended up not only guiding his team to victory but setting up a heartbreaker of a try where he ran between two Scottish forwards and as they clashed heads trying to tackle him he sprinted away, span out a lovely looping pass to the waiting Keith Earls who then ran in to score unopposed.

Some might remember that he started for Ireland in the first match against the Wallabies back in mid 2018 – the one that Ireland lost.

So it might be easy to see him as a poor under study to Sexton. However it’s worth remembering that when he left the field in that first test in Australia, Ireland were actually winning.

Carbery has since grown in talent and skill and is a No.10 that a lot of top international sides would want to have in their ranks.

However – and this is going to become more important as 2019 goes on – he’s nowhere near Sexton’s class. If Ireland have to rely upon Carbery against the world’s best then they could be in trouble.

He’s a very exciting player but in do or die matches against the top nations, the opposition will fancy their chances.

It will be interesting to see if Joe Schmidt tries to give Carbery more and more time leading the team in this championship to try and help him prepare for those knockout moments in the World Cup.

Jonny May continuing to have a blinder
Last week I wrote about how May was becoming a real world class talent – well, this week he only helped to bolster that claim as he scored three tries within the first 30 minutes against France.

Two of them were as a result of him chasing down well-placed kicks from teammates which took pace and timing, but the middle try of his hat trick showed he’s also got some stunning feet.

He took the ball standing still about seven metres from the French line and had Damian Penaud right in front of him.

A couple of seconds later Penaud was flat on his face and May was celebrating another try at Twickenham. He stepped in and then out and left the French winger looking ever so slightly silly.

If he can keep this form going then he’s going to pick up player of the tournament and be a real threat in the World Cup.

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Was 2018 too much for Ireland?
Ireland beat the Scots and scored some lovely tries in doing so. But here in Round 2 they still don’t look like the Ireland of 2018 and so it’s perhaps not surprising that people are starting to ask if they have peaked too early.

They put so much into their last two years of rugby – winning over in Australia, winning the Grand Slam and famously beating the All Blacks.

Has the emotional and physical effort that it took to achieve those incredible heights finally catching up with the men in green?

Ireland commonly start slowly in the Six Nations and to be fair to them they did win on Saturday, but there’s a lack of crispness to their play and their previously unstoppable style of playing has not been, well, unstoppable.

England found a way to physically dominate them and Scotland found a way in the first half to force them to make errors through building pressure.

They are still a high quality side but it’ll be a new challenge for Schmidt to help them maintain their world beating form now that they’ve reached the top.

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Do Wales have strength in depth or are they struggling to find the right combinations?
Ok let’s be clear – the Welsh are on a great run of wins.

By beating the Italians they’ve racked up 11 victories in a row and opposition of all styles are finding it impossible to beat them.

However, last week, the Welsh played awfully in the first half against Wales and were lucky to win.

Against Italy this weekend they again won but never really achieved that total domination of the Italians.

Now Warren Gatland had made ten changes for this weekend’s game and that can unsettle any team. Picking up an away win with that many changes is not to be sniffed at.

However it does raise the question about whether this demonstrates real strength in depth or are the past couple of weeks highlighting that they haven’t found those perfect combinations yet.

The Welsh back row played very well on Saturday but the back line didn’t really click and relied upon individuals playing well rather than combinations unlocking the Italians.

In defence the home side were able to cause the Welsh real problems and scored two nice tries against them.

In fact the Welsh only scored two tries themselves and relied upon penalties to build a lead.

Having a large number of good players is important but at the moment it feels as if the Welsh don’t have any great players in key positions and that’s what’s going to be needed to win the big games.

A real test will be in the next round when they take on an in form England in Cardiff. If they can beat the men in white then they will be in great shape.

If they stumble then it might just highlight that they are still in that group of good countries who are trying to chase down the world’s best.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2019-02-13T17:47:28+00:00

Oliver Matthews

Expert


It's almost like a Moneyball situation - the traditional stat of Number of Missed Tackles by a player is commonly used to judge a player's contribution to a match. But it's potentially very misleading. Although I imagine that it's mainly a media stat that is discussed at the fan level a lot rather than used at the coach level. You'd assume/hope that the pro coaches are looking at far more nuanced stats and analysis. That being said - it's important that Farrell doesn't repeat those two instances from the Spring Tour against the Boks and Wallabies where he could have given away points and gotten a yellow card. England can't afford that in crunch matches.

2019-02-12T23:19:45+00:00

Munstertim

Guest


Of the missing Scots who'd be starters I guess they were missing Nel, Barclay & Watson. We were down to our 5th choice lock, missing toner, Henderson & beirne. We were missing stander & leavy from our backrow. And our 1st choice centres in henshaw and ringrose

2019-02-12T23:10:31+00:00

Munstertim

Guest


England do look very impressive & at the moment are looking one of the favs for the wc alright. As an Irish fan I'd love another crack at them though. Kearney at fullback, though he lacks the attacking flair of some others, has an unbelievable ability to cover the back field. We are notoriously slow starters to the 6ns & our half backs at the moment look rusty and out of form. Has Eddie shown his hand a bit early, he was under huge pressure, every other coach will now dissect his game plan, he definitely caught us on the hop compared to what we'd seen last year. They have big players back from injury & maybe everyone bar the abs might struggle to contain them but we'll see

2019-02-12T04:26:54+00:00

The Neutral View From Sweden

Roar Guru


They will play a lot of rugby, but there is enough time to rest after the season and also have a proper camp to prepare for the World Cup. European season finish late May and the World Cup kicks off in the middle of September (that is more than 100 days). I guess all English player will get a rest in June, report into camp early in July for two months of preparing (and four warm-up Tests in August).

2019-02-12T00:52:58+00:00

piru

Roar Rookie


Not based on what we've seen so far

2019-02-12T00:26:05+00:00

Smiggle Jiggle

Roar Guru


When they play Ireland again, it should be a lot closer.

2019-02-11T22:27:10+00:00

Plasmodium

Guest


Scotland's best guy, Stu Hogg, gets hit first by the tackler's shoulder then, as an afterthought, the tackler places his hands on Hogg's arms and that's declared a legal tackle. Result? Hogg goes off injured, tackler stays on and Ireland escapes any kind of penalty. That is so wrong. Right?

2019-02-11T19:49:36+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


I think this is the point, Oliver. Whether with the Lions, Saracens or England the defensive systems have been variations on a theme. Line speed coming up particularly fast on the outside, try and make dominant tackles or direct the runner into the path of your mate coming up along side you. You technically ‘miss’ a lot of tackles that way, but when you review it the runner has often been smashed a second or two later. Against Ireland a lot of missed tackles were recorded on the stats, but I think Ireland only had three line breaks in the match.

2019-02-11T18:51:34+00:00

Englishbob

Guest


It's been an enjoyable championship so far, some upsets and the strategies being honed now will presumably be in the mix for the RWC. Enjoying England's simplicity in its gameplan, the kicking game minimises risk and punish any opposition mistakes with fast clinical turnover ball. Not an arrogance thing but I haven't seen anything from Wales in the last two, or even the November internationals to suggest a win over England other than the extra motivation against their old foe. I can't bring myself to be confident about the RWC just yet, as pointed out in an article in the SMH yesterday, these English players have got a phenomenal amount of rugby to play before then and I think this abrasive rush defence may just prove too heavy a burden by the middle and latter stages in Japan. However for now, a 6N championship will be treasured, as always

2019-02-11T18:39:46+00:00

taylorman

Roar Guru


Yes england and farrell tend to have high counts. But if teams arent punishing them as a result what do you do.

2019-02-11T18:38:07+00:00

taylorman

Roar Guru


Biggest win over france in 100 years though? 36 points was it? Not exactly breathtaking for such a record.

2019-02-11T15:02:20+00:00

taylorman

Roar Guru


Interesting that the runs of ten matches or more by all three sides never included the ABs Wales 11 now is it? good reason to suggest winning being a habit will allow them to dig deep when they need it.

AUTHOR

2019-02-11T14:25:01+00:00

Oliver Matthews

Expert


Yeah it's a fair point - there's been lots of debate around Owen Farrell over in UK and whether he's a defensive liability cause he misses a large number of tackles. But if his role in the defensive system is to rush up and try and make the big hit/force play a specific way then you have to accept that he's more likely to miss tackles. Missing tackles is not the full story - we need to know what happens as a result of that missed tackle. Is there a genuine gain for the attacking side or not?

AUTHOR

2019-02-11T14:22:51+00:00

Oliver Matthews

Expert


I quite like the idea of this mainly because Italy frustrate me with how uncompetitive they are and how it feels as though other countries (Georgia for example) are being held back from their shot at the big time. Of course though the reality is that something like this could have some unfortunate impacts: - it would lead to a team from the current world top 10 having to play against teams a long way below them. That's not going to make that relegated team any better at the international level and the likelihood is that the other teams from Group B would be absolutely spanked by the Group A relegated team. Not sure that's useful for those Group B sides and their development either. - say it's Scotland who get relegated, or France - what is that going to do to their domestic game? Having their national side relegated is going to lead to a decline in interest in rugby in that country quite possibly which means clubs getting less support and the Union generating less revenue. - if you only include 5 teams in the groups then the likelihood is that you end up with Italy being the team that bounces back and forth between Group A and Group B. So you're not actually going to give any of the Group B sides a chance at the top league. I think that there does need to be something done about Italy but the answer feels like it is more to do with investing in their domestic teams and how they perform than changing things at the international level.

2019-02-11T14:09:02+00:00

CUW

Roar Rookie


Sinkler taking on the role of Marler :D TMO decisions is getting out of hand. One guy exceeded his brief in my view - when Poite asked for replay of the try , he showed a forward pass at a previos stage. i thought TMO had to do what the ref wanted in the latest protocol - rather than like before getting in the refs ear. And Hogg getting injured by a late hit not even considered - perhaps his reputation is not good?

2019-02-11T14:05:32+00:00

CUW

Roar Rookie


if im not mistaken they have a tournament called European rugby championship or something like that in which the lower ranked play - but there is no promotion-relegation i think its immaterial anyways coz who ever gets promoted to top level will get relegated the next time. the top 5 are on a different level. i think the best will be to get rid of Italy and play home-n-away for the 5 . means more matches but will be far more entertaining.

2019-02-11T13:16:19+00:00

CUW

Roar Rookie


then it must be simillar for both teams - since both are using rush , especially Ireland. there was a huge difference in missed tackles between the 2 teams favoring Ireland and a huge difference in dominatant tackles favoring england. so i think they are sacrificing the high accuracy for man-bashing.

2019-02-11T11:41:34+00:00

Totally incompetent

Guest


You're missing Georgia, which is by far the closesest to Italy and the bottom of yours group A

2019-02-11T11:11:11+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


We’ll see if England can remind Wales how to lose ... Ireland did not look authoritative in victory. Scotland was missing 20 squad players.

2019-02-11T10:28:37+00:00

Caractacus

Guest


England have been the best team of the 6N this year by far but a loss in Cardiff in two weeks time and things will look very different. Two weeks ago Ireland were strong second favourites for the WC, now not so much. Wales are much harder to assess, they're on a long winning run but they haven't played NZ, England or Ireland in that run (in fact losses to Ireland and England were the two previous games) and so far they've only beaten the two weakest teams in the comp unconvincingly so the next match will go a long way to showing us where they really are. Certainly England look the only team worthy of a Grand Slam this year although I doubt we'll see one.

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