Struggling to get with the program on 'team list Tuesday'

Erm... "There is truth in Mal’s sentiment but it seems simplistic and uncaring to say, ‘Let’s just get on with the footy’ given the nature of the allegations and in some cases criminal charges surrounding a number of NRL players." Is it just me, or have you actually simplified Mal's statement into something less caring, purely to criticise it for those reasons?

Cool, so since we're differentiating between domestic violence and sexual assault accusations, how many players have been found guilty of the latter? Just asking...

They moderated out my last response. You never say all women are liars because you would be crushed. You do say repeatedly that all sexual assault cases against NRL players have been proven to be false which implies they all make it up. I don't see how that can be misconstrued? You ask for all the examples of aggrivated sexual assault that have been guilty verdicts and you use the examples of Brett Stewart, El Masri, SKD , Radradra to defend your position. Repeatedly. Except that Stewart is the only case of that group that was an aggrivated sexual assault case. the rest were domestic violence. I have given you the list of just some of the domestic violence and violence against women cases where guilty verdicts were found against NRL plyers and it far outweighs your few examples. You choose to ignore this and carry on waving the Brett Stewart/ Culleen banner. Ok, now i am really done. You have made a particular comment about women with regard to their part in the sex tapes which I think is horrid, but was allowed to stand.. I won't repeat it because i think it is what blocked my last post. I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt that you just worded your response poorly, but I am not sure.

You think Bob Fulton was sabotaging NSW in SOO by not picking the strongest team to favor Manly and you think Cuneen who is an expert in her field has no idea what she is talking about but you do. Time to wander into the house of mirrors champion , you have lost the plot. You can’t just imagine something , present no evidence and expect me to take you seriously . Stop trying to align yourself to Cuneen you have the polar opposite views , just man up and wear it.

Oh dear. "Out of your depth" surely describes the shallow end of the intellectual pool for you my man. It's not my open letter, it's yours. Ms Cuneen (SC) and I may disagree on whether he should be stood down and that's fine. I have read her statement, I know where she is coming from (legal POV) without hiding any context to help my argument. You've citied her as backup to you but you've included so much BS behind your point that she would never support. Go tell her that, in your opinion, most girls are lying in these cases. See how much she has in common with you.

You are right, your not foolish enough to say all women are liars, you have just repeatedly referenced how every allegation against NRL players has turned out to be false and in doing so have implied that every woman who claims sexual assault is a liar. Actually list all the woman who have accused NRL players of aggrivated sexual assault? Stewart, Hayne (ongoing), who else you got? Coffs Harbour 15 years ago. Oh but so many women do it right? You have repeatedly asked people to list all the players found guilty of rape/sexual assault and you have repeatedly used Brett Stewart, El Masri, SKD , Radradra as your examples of false accusations. Problem is only Stewart was accused of sexual assault - the rest were on domestic violence charges and there have been literally a dozen or more players found guilty of domestic assault in the last decade - way more than those "falsely accused" - which has been listed out for you and you have been consistent in ignoring it while you carry on with your crusade.... It was even pointed out to you that Walkers partner either lied to get him in trouble, or lied to protect him, which tears you apart I am sure given your allegiance to Manly and your lack of respect for women.... you know, like when discussing the sex tapes you said how the women got themselves in those positions.... Ok, now I am done...

You think it's unfair he was stood down. She said a similar thing but with context all around it - you two are so much alike... In your open letter, tell her about your 'experiences' and be sure to include Stewart to support you. Your name calling really hurts. It is usually reflective of the person winning the intellectual battle.

Tell one of Australia’s top legal females that 100% he should be stood down and it’s not tenable to have him representing St George or the NRL. Tell her also that she seems to have lost sight of the severity of the charge. She disagrees with you 100% but of course you are much wiser than someone like her who’s dealing with these issues on a regular basis. You’re out of your depth and you have no idea.

Show me any time where I said ''all woman who make claims against NRL players are liars'' I'll save you the search, it's just a tactic used when you and others can't debate what someone said effectively so you make up fairy tales , it's a waste of time.

I am not going to bother writing an article. It would be ridiculous to try and write something like I know more about the law than an experienced law professional – even if it is someone who represented Ian Macdonald. She says he should be afforded the presumption of innocence. As I have said, repeatedly beyond repeatedly, I agree 100%, every single person on this site does and you will not be able to find a comment among the 1000+ that has said anything different.. But the journalist didn’t ask her, or at least didn’t report if they asked her, ‘if there is a rule that is applied to everyone – that all people are stood down the moment they are charged – how is that judging the person when it is blanket regardless of the situation? Maybe she did get asked that and gave an answer but it didn’t fit the narrative of the story being written in the high quality publication, The Daily Mail. Maybe it is referencing SKD and Stewart but not referencing the many more who have been found guilty of assault against women I don’t know, but because that issue isn’t addressed, it doesn’t change my opinion; and in other news, I am allowed to have that opinion. And that is it, I am done, not commenting anymore. You can talk about Brett Stewart until you are maroon and white in the face, and keep telling us that all women who make claims against NRL players are liars. Have your opinion. I am done.

I'm the one that agrees with her view so why would I send an open letter to her. You are 100% certain he should be stood down and she says it's unfair. It's up to you to explain why you disagree surely you can't be that thick........ unfortunately you are. Nothing you have said aligns with her views so why would you pretend they do? Stick to your faulty guns dimwit.

Nah na nah na, nah na nah na, hey hey hey Goodbye! And with his tail jammed firmly between his legs he scurries for the back door.

100% he should be stood down and that is no presumption of guilt. That would be to sack him without compensation. While this matter is pending, it is not tenable to have him representing St George or the NRL. You seem to have lost sight of the severity of the charge based on your attitude toward domestic violence. Why don’t you send her an open letter highlighting your views on this matter and see just how aligned she is to a neanderthal like you.

I'll just let you ramble on, you can twist however you like but just read this womans thought which mirror what I have already being saying on the issue and are the opposite to your ramblings and that's all you need to take out of it. I'm not interested in your deceitful twisting of what I say so goodbye.

Margret Cunneen is one of Australias strongest advocates for the victims of sexual assault and says standing down JDB while he is charged with rape is unjust. Maybe you should write an article explaining why you and king Nat are correct and she is wrong. You seem to think everyone should listen to you and ignore this woman, truth is stranger than fiction in your case.

You obviously haven't read what she says , she is the opposite to what you are saying and very close to what I'm saying and no matter how much you twist things that is a fact. She thinks it is unfair to stand JDB down. What do you think? That he should be stood down , yes and that is the crux of the issue . Stick by what you have put in black and white and don't try and sneak out of it.

So you haven't 'absorbed' a single thing I've said, you've just shot from the hip in defiance. She is far more closely aligned to my view than a person - you - who claims that 'women are mostly lying in these situations, an innocent verdict means the event never happened and if a woman retracts her claim, she was either lying or decided it's not that serious' (paraphrased but your words). No, again, you've grasped one single line that "false allegations have been leveled against NRL players before" and hung onto that as someone with social standing has a similar train of thought to you. One line from a statement without context but you'll use it in hope no one googles your argument - I did, you lose, again.

"As one of Australias strongest advocates for the victims of sexual assault says standing down NRL star Jack de Belin while he is charged with rape is unjust. As a crown prosecutor Margaret Cuneen SC helped lock up sex offenders including pack rapist Bial Skaf and his gang. She maintains contact with woman whose sex attackers she has prosecuted decades ago and has in the past been criticised by defence lawyers for her public show of support for rape victims." Don't bother trying to get anything thru to me BA Sports , just keep your head in the sand I'll be happy with that. She also gave Brett Stewart a character reference when he was in need of support. you and old mate Nat can just keep sharpening the old pitch fork for all I care. If you take no notice at all of what this woman says with all her wisdom and experience than you are officially beyond help.

Guess who has heard both sides? The Police and they charged him for it. No, it doesn't mean he's guilty. Your presumption of innocence directly correlates with the presumption of the 2nd party is lying. Standing him down is far from hanging him out to dry but the NRL have no obligation to have him representing their code while this very serious matter is settled.

She disagrees with what people like you are saying, that's the point you don't wish to absorb. She does generalise about NRL players as being targets of false allegations because of the history. If you disagree with her thoughts on the matter no worries. Understand what a generalisation is all about, you don't appear to understand the concept. She disagrees with all of the BS you have written , none of your ramblings line up with what she has said.