Why the Mariners may be the most important club in the A-League

By apaway / Roar Guru

The catalogue of disasters emanating from Gosford came to an awful head on Saturday night.

The Central Coast Mariners fell to a demoralising 8-2 loss to Wellington Phoenix, a scoreline identical to their final match of last season at the same venue.

For at least three seasons now, death-riding the Mariners has become so prevalent it may be offered up as an Olympic sport in time for Tokyo.

It goes to show that football fans have short memories and glosses over the importance to the FFA and the A-League of a healthy, viable Mariners club. Of course, they’ve been anything but healthy of late and are becoming a lot less viable.

For the good of the game, the governing body needs to do something to help steer the Mariners back towards something akin to the QE2, rather than the Titanic it is fast becoming.

There is only need to look at the Mariners history to know that a club on the Central Coast is vitally important.

Given the current turmoil spilling into Brisbane Water like a major oil spill, it’s easy to forget that the Mariners, despite the smallest catchment area in the league, have been more successful than all but three other sides in A-League history.

It’s easy to forget that a decade ago, the Mariners were averaging 15,500 spectators to their home games.

It’s easy to forget that the likes of Mile Jedinak, Mat Ryan, Trent Sainsbury, Tom Rogic, Bernie Ibini and Mustafa Amini cut their professional teeth at Central Coast Stadium. It’s easy to forget that the Mariners were the first A-League club to open a Centre Of Excellence.

While all those players have moved onto bigger stages, it is not the loss of any one player that could be seen as the catalyst to the Mariners slide into horror.

Rather, it is the loss of inaugural coach Lawrie McKinna that has harmed the Mariners the most. I’ve expressed my admiration for McKinna in a previous article but he, along with assistants Alex Tobin and Ian Ferguson, had the formula to make the Mariners successful, both on and off the pitch.

As he once said, “We had 23 players and there are 23 clubs in the Central Coast association. It wasn’t rocket science what we needed to do first.”

Matt Simon of the Central Coast Mariners (Photo by Tony Feder/Getty Images)

For the first eight seasons, the Mariners belonged to the people of the Central Coast. It is a professional sports experience almost unlike any other. Fans would come sunburned and sandy straight from the beach and pile into the ground to watch a side that played for them.

It was a unique family atmosphere and the region adored the side, even in the seasons where they didn’t (over) achieve. Along with McKinna, whose popularity would lead to him becoming the Mayor of Gosford, there were guiding lights of the business community behind the scenes, with the likes of John Singleton, Peter Turnbull and Lyall Gorman contributing to the evolution of the club.

The Mariners’ success was even more significant, given they had the region to themselves. NRL, AFL and rugby had no footprint between Patonga and Gwandalan.

Sure, the NRL plays a handful of games at the stadium every season but in the Mariners most successful period, those games drew no better than the club that truly called the place home.

FFA had claimed a territorial victory over its sporting rivals. Junior registrations in the region continued to grow and current Socceroos coach Graham Arnold led the club to the promised land when they finally won the A-League title in 2013, after three previous grand final defeats, including the 2011 decider in Brisbane that realistically launched Ange Postecoglou’s coaching career into orbit.

Mariners fans.. (Photo by Tony Feder/Getty Images)

It is often said that the slide began when Mike Charlesworth took control of the club. It’s not easy to refute the argument, as Charlesworth took a majority share of the club only a month before they won the 2013 grand final, and haven’t looked likely to do so since.

However, Charlesworth had already been involved in the club before that time, and took control to ease some financial woes that had befallen the club during their most successful on-field season.

That said, he has hardly endeared himself to Mariners fans during his ownership, even attempting to move half of their home games to a non-existent supporter base in North Sydney to a ground totally unsuited to watching football from a ground purpose-built for it.

In the first nine A-League seasons, the Mariners had two coaches and were a model of stability. With an impending appointment to replace Mike Mulvey, sacked at 1.00am on Sunday morning, they’ll be handing the clipboard and whistle to their seventh coach in five years.

It has to stop.

There is no point banging on about promotion and relegation and declaring that the Mariners “don’t deserve” their A-League status, that they’re hardly worthy of NPL status.

That is both inaccurate and grossly unfair to the supporters on the Coast – and they are still out there, waiting to be engaged with. For that has been the absolute downfall of the club. They’ve failed to build on all that early work.

The Mariners are still the focus on the Central Coast – there are enough people wandering around in replica shirts, large displays in major shopping centres, many reminders of the Mariners existence at indoor centres, on billboards, in passing conversation.

More than 10,000 people turned up to watch a trial game only months ago, fuelled by curiosity over Usain Bolt. They were given no reason to stick around.

Who’d want to be former Mariners coach Mike Mulvey? (Hagen Hopkins/Getty Images)

Sacking Mike Mulvey was inevitable but will do nothing without a lot more change behind the scenes. Charlesworth denies he was offered $8.5 million for the club earlier in the season but unless he is willing to do a lot more than remain anonymous while his club sinks, he should sell up or have the FFA step in and do it for him.

The blueprint for club success is already there and Mulvey reportedly contacted McKinna before the start of the season to see what strategies worked in the past. He didn’t employ them. Maybe the Bolt circus was an unwanted distraction, and there is no doubt the cruel luck of losing both Ross McCormack and Tommy Oar for most of the season has not helped the side’s 2018-19 campaign.

Results are important and terrible results – as the Mariners have produced this season – do nothing to attract the lost hordes.

But it wasn’t only results that attracted the hordes in seasons past, it was ownership. Not the Mike Charlesworth type of ownership but the one where the community is part of the proceedings, where everyone that attends the unique stadium with the palm trees and sauce bottles feels like a participant, a family member, a part of the furniture.

That was the blueprint that had them streaming through the gates not so long ago and made going to a game in Gosford a must-do experience.

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2019-03-14T09:58:42+00:00

Matthew Austin

Guest


And Alex Wilkinson. And John Crawley and Andrew Clark in the coaching staff

2019-03-14T03:25:38+00:00

Pork Chop

Roar Rookie


Could that be ......”wazter”. : A waste of time in the opinion of a significant roar poster ??

2019-03-13T08:44:32+00:00

Waz

Roar Rookie


Agreed. How are the owners only affecting the men’s first team when the men’s junior team, women’s senior team and women’s junior team have all experienced recent success.

2019-03-13T08:41:32+00:00

Waz

Roar Rookie


I want a League with pro/rel so geographic representstion has no place in that. Every club finds its place based on merit not postcode.

AUTHOR

2019-03-13T00:20:24+00:00

apaway

Roar Guru


Good point, thanks for clarifying.

2019-03-12T13:04:07+00:00

Redondo

Roar Rookie


In the last two seasons Roar's aggregate and average home attendances have been about half the level they were in the 13-14 season. Finals matches in 13-14 bolstered the figures somewhat but the difference between the best season and the last two is pretty dramatic.

2019-03-12T11:38:11+00:00

Lionheart

Roar Rookie


Whatever are you talking about. Despite poor performance Roar's crowds have consistently been in the top 2 or 3. More so when derbies are accounted for in total figures.

2019-03-12T06:24:55+00:00

Nick Symonds

Guest


Another scenario, Give Wellington's license to Canberra and Melbourne City's to Dandenong. Then expand to 14 teams: SYDNEY FC WESTERN SYDNEY WANDERERS MACARTHUR MAGPIES MELBOURNE VICTORY WESTERN UNITED SOUTH EAST MELBOURNE ATHLETIC BRISBANE ROAR PERTH GLORY ADELAIDE UNITED NEWCASTLE JETS CANBERRA UNITED TASMANIA RANGERS WOLLONGONG WOLVES CENTRAL COAST MARINERS - Mariners survive + Wollongong and Tasmania both get in

2019-03-12T05:38:00+00:00

Redondo

Roar Rookie


The A-League’s peak year for aggregate attendance was season 13-14 (total = 1,887,006). In 13-14 the top 3 in order were Roar, Wanderers and Mariners. Projected out*, this season’s aggregate attendance will see a drop from 13-14 of close to 450,000. This season’s bottom 3 teams were 13-14’s top 3 teams – Mariners, Roar and Wanderers – and they will contribute around 400,000 of the 450,000 lost fans. Now, somebody has to come last but that will not always affect attendances so dramatically. The problem with those 3 teams is that they have played pretty awful football all season. Added to that the Wanderers are really struggling with homelessness. The biggest consistent contributors to aggregate attendance are Victory and Sydney FC, whose attendances are fairly consistent over time, win or lose. So they don’t balance out the losses made by the bottom 3. What we have is 3 teams who have been poorly managed/administered for several seasons who are dragging the quality and attendances of the A-League down. Fix them and you’ll fix a lot of the problem. That’s one theory anyway… * It’s perhaps not a very precise projection given the boost that derbies and finals will provide.

2019-03-12T05:01:18+00:00

Waz

Roar Rookie


Fair enough; I agree on the having the community to themselves and, to be fair to mariners fans, they’ve stayed pretty loyal too.

2019-03-12T04:12:52+00:00

josh

Guest


Their youth age groups are still stacked with kids from Western Sydney. Once the WSW Academy opens it'll be bleak days for the Central Coast.

2019-03-12T03:57:42+00:00

Nick Symonds

Guest


"The Mariners should never be moved to another region. If and when that region is ready, they should be in the A League on their own merits. Moving franchises around the country might work in the United States for American Football but I think it would be a disaster here." - As it says, "the Mariners’ license might be distributed elsewhere, possibly to a second team in Brisbane or even to Canberra.” They aren't talking about relocating the Mariners to Canberra, they're talking about giving Central Coast's license to Canberra. Like what happened when WSW took the place of Gold Coast United.

2019-03-12T03:52:45+00:00

Lionheart

Roar Rookie


ooh, not so sure, I’ve seen some pretty thin wasters around, in my day. btw, what’s a waster?

2019-03-12T03:49:22+00:00

Lionheart

Roar Rookie


Yep, they have a few around. Da Silva came though Glory from age 16, as I recall. Most clubs have several ex Roar youth players on their list these days, much good work done by Roar and the QAS in the days before the Roar academy. Also understand that NPLV clubs actively recruit from the NPLQ, apparently wages are much higher in Vic football. Last junior signed by Roar came from Bentleigh Greens and NPLQ Western Pride before that.

2019-03-12T03:36:41+00:00

Midfielder

Roar Guru


App Great read... You can trace our issues back to the current owner... he has made I think two major management errors... first he has tried to run the club on a shoe string budget .. Because of the first point i.e. the shoe string budget the second point is mega... he has tried to run the club from England with high profile English managers flying in and flying out and leaving local management with little decision making ability and little local knowledge by the fly in fly out management. Our key problem is with our owner and I hope he either sells or places more faith in local decision making and management. As to being the most important club in the league ... I fully agree because if the Mariners can make it in traditionally a league area and make Football work they will be an example for all other regions to copy..

2019-03-12T03:31:02+00:00

Lionheart

Roar Rookie


I don't see 'mismanaged by present owners' as the right descriptor for Roar. The owners have poured in more than enough money, more than most clubs on players alone. Senior team mismanaged by the former A League team coach and his football staff, fits much better. Aloisi has done untold damage to the senior team.

2019-03-12T03:08:07+00:00

Nick Symonds

Guest


NEWS: Mariners confirm appointment of sacked Matildas coach Stajcic - https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/mariners-confirm-appointment-of-sacked-matildas-coach-stajcic

AUTHOR

2019-03-12T03:04:03+00:00

apaway

Roar Guru


Buddy I agree. The Mariners should never be moved to another region. If and when that region is ready, they should be in the A League on their own merits. Moving franchises around the country might work in the United States for American Football but I think it would be a disaster here.

AUTHOR

2019-03-12T02:58:31+00:00

apaway

Roar Guru


Slightly revisionist history...

2019-03-12T02:24:58+00:00

Pork Chop

Roar Rookie


Sfc have two exccm players ......... buhagier and de silva. Both first team regulars until trent did his knee. Melb city are also with Wales from last years team. Just sayin’ ........

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