Where's the American Valentine Holmes?

By AJ Mithen / Expert

After betting big on himself, Valentine Holmes has won a shot at the NFL’s big time, signing a contract with the New York Jets.

It’s great news for the former Cronulla, Queensland and Australian representative, an exciting development for Aussie NFL fans, and another example of how the athleticism required for rugby league can translate across other sporting codes.

Holmes isn’t straight into the squad, as some of the reporting would have you think, it’s actually a lot more complicated than that.

The 23-year-old signed with the Jets as part of the NFL’s International Player Pathway Program, which was created to give overseas athletes the chance to develop their American football skills and compete for a shot at a roster spot.

As one of these overseas players, Holmes will be on the New York roster during training camp and he’ll be allowed to play in the four preseason matches.

If he misses a spot on the final 53-man roster, he stays with the Jets thanks to an international player practice squad exemption, meaning he’ll work with the franchise’s practice squad but he’s ineligible to be activated during the 2019 season.

I’m looking forward to the preseason games in August to see how he handles himself.

I keep wondering, though… As Valentine Holmes hits the NRL departure lounge, why isn’t the arrivals hall teeming with young American athletes getting a shot at playing rugby league?

Why aren’t NRL clubs doing more to mine this massive talent pool?

(Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

I’ve gone on and on and on here on The Roar about how well-suited rugby league is to the American market. The potential for growth is massive, but the game’s ingrained self-interest and fear of trying anything new seems to have won out yet again.

But even if the will and long-term commitment to growth doesn’t exist, why aren’t any NRL clubs scouting the talent and bringing promising American athletes here?

According to the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA), there were 16,236 college footballers eligible for the 2018 NFL draft.

Only 256 players get drafted and even then, those players are no guarantee to progress much further in professional football.

NFL teams turn over an average of 20 spots on their 53-strong rosters every offseason.

The average NFL career is 3.3 years and aside from the Canadian Football League, there’s nowhere to go once you’re out. No state leagues, no suburban leagues – that’s it. You’re done.

For someone drafted at age 20, that’s still a lot of time to make something of your prime athletic years.

This is an enormous cohort who have grown up with a football, who already have the ball-handling and defensive skills which can be easily tweaked.

Given the complicated playbooks they learn throughout high school and college, which contain dozens if not hundreds of formations and plays combinations, they’d be able to acclimatise to even the most intricate NRL set up.

The most development would be the fitness work so they could run out extended periods and be able to tackle, get back ten, tackle again, and so on. Still, this would be a relatively easy transition.

The maximum effort most clubs seem to put into exploring international talent is to look at players from the Pacific Islands during international games or Super League players. It’s lazy and short-sighted, something that is unfortunately not uncommon around rugby league.

Only four USA-born players have played in Australia and two of those have played in the NRL era.

Warriors second rower Joseph Vuna was born in California, but he moved to New Zealand when he was a kid so he doesn’t count. Vuna is currently on a 12-month Mormon mission after playing four games last year.

Clint Newton, former Newcastle and Melbourne back-rower turned general manager of stakeholder relations at the Rugby League Players Association, was born in South Carolina. But that’s more of a quirk than anything. His dad is Aussie golfing legend Jack Newton.

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There have been a few attempts at getting former college footballers into rugby league with some Queensland and New South Wales Cup teams giving American players a chance.

Texas-born Akarika Dawn was a former linebacker at the University of Colorado Boulder who played a few games for the Burleigh Bears in the Queensland Cup in 2007.

Former Washington Redskins running back Silas Redd trained with the Ipswich Jets in 2018 before he got a job offer in the NFL he couldn’t refuse. Jets staff, including co-coaches Ben and Shane Walker, had no doubt Redd could have made it to the NRL.

Other sports are making moves to identify and bring over talent from the States.

About a year ago, the NBL set up a fund to bring over young basketballers who want to skip college so they can have a year playing professionally in Australia before they go back for the draft.

The AFL has scouting programs set up in a few countries, including America. They hosted a combine for prospective players in the USA since 2012 until putting it on hold in 2018. Numerous former NCAA basketballers and footballers have come out to Australia to give Aussie rules a crack. The vast majority of them don’t pan out, but Collingwood’s full-forward Mason Cox is showing that when things go right, it’s a massive benefit to a team.

Mason Cox (Photo by Adam Trafford/AFL Media/Getty Images)

As far as I can find, the only rugby league pathway between Australia and the USA is for players to self-nominate if they’re interested in playing club league. It’s a pretty rudimentary setup, not dissimilar to a program for Aussie cricketers looking for an English club to play with during winter.

Where’s the NRL’s International Player Pathway Program? Where are the talent identification programs for anywhere outside of the UK and the Pacific Islands?

Why wouldn’t an NRL team back themselves to identify and nurture the talent?

With the league looking at expansion and a lot of new players needed, what does a team have to lose by taking a shot on developing an American prospect?

It’s a massive waste of potential.

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The Crowd Says:

2019-09-23T07:16:07+00:00

jimmystagger

Roar Rookie


I know you're joking but it'll probably, if it ever happens, be along the lines of the name of the NRL- which works both ways (name of sport/collection of teams).

2019-09-03T04:00:56+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Just waiting for Major League League when rugby league starts making some inroads!

2019-09-03T03:35:29+00:00

jimmystagger

Roar Rookie


99% percent of Americans don't know there's two kinds of rugby, "league" to us means "a collection of teams" so Major League Rugby is fine- a la Major League Soccer, Major League Baseball, Major League Lacrosse etc etc.

2019-09-03T03:34:01+00:00

jimmystagger

Roar Rookie


Those combines are hardly publicized, and the Saracens are an amateur outfit. The Canadian Football League does their combines in the South almost every year, and promotes the hell out of them- as a result, they get decent talent. Washington isn't a hotbed of college football, and nobody's paying the price for a cross-country ticket to fly up there from Texas or Georgia.

2019-04-12T18:07:59+00:00

IDGAF.89

Roar Rookie


Valentine Holmes will fail you’re right about that BUT he won’t give up that easily and will stick it out for at least 2 years or more unlike Jarryd Hayne because of his age and his determination. That I’m certain of. I truly hope the kid makes it and proves me wrong but there is absolutely nothing I see from him athletically that I have not already seen. Jason Taumalolo had a better chance of making an NFL team than Valentine based on his physical attributes with his speed and strength. Jason had the most potential of any NRL player I’ve ever seen to making the NFL but he chose to stay in that sport of RL.

2019-04-12T17:57:42+00:00

IDGAF.89

Roar Rookie


There was a show a few years back called “ NRL Rookie “ where local Australian talent would go h2h with athletes from around the world. I think there was 1 or 2 English guys and 1 American who was a nobody not surprisingly. There was no way in hell those RL coaches for that show were ever going to pick someone from another country to win that fake contract. I say fake because the Australian dude who won it has never played a game of NRL football. That show was a joke.... they didn’t want to lose face or credibility so they picked a local Australian to “win”. No current NFL football player would waste there time & physical attributes playing a sport (Rugby League) that pays shit money to even the best of the best NRL players in comparison to what they get. There are so many beastly Gridiron players that don’t make the NFL but could easily with their physical attributes play Rugby or Rugby League at NRL or Super Rugby level within a year especially with the talent pool so small but the money is simply not worth it. The fundamentals of League & Union can be learned very easily compared to the skills needed for the NFL and knowing the playbook and the changes. Only difference between RL/RU to NFL is cardio and that can be fixed within the span of a few months.

2019-04-12T17:29:35+00:00

IDGAF.89

Roar Rookie


I was on the page that of yours that says “ why Val Holmes will make a NFL roster “ but I wasn’t able to reply back to Barry T comment that was a so low IQ when it comes to the NFL. I know you’re doing this on purpose by disabling the comments so that no one can respond to him. This is the link BTW. https://www-theroar-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.theroar.com.au/2018/11/29/why-valentine-holmes-will-make-an-nfl-roster/amp/?usqp=mq331AQECAEoAQ%3D%3D&amp_js_v=0.1

2019-04-11T12:08:51+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


He also threw a pass in a proper game that any American quarterback would have been proud of - it went a good 40 yards but was also 10 or 15 yards forward, if memory serves me.

2019-04-11T08:08:08+00:00

Farmer Geddon

Guest


I remember Manfred Moore at Henson Park throwing a football out over the grandstand to the delight of the crowd.

2019-04-11T00:45:49+00:00

Mark

Guest


No NFL players played in the Rugby League World Cup. You may be confusing players who have played American football in high school and college with those who have actually played in the NFL. That's like confusing someone who played rugby league in high school with someone who has actually played in the NRL competition.

2019-04-11T00:30:40+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


I'm not surprised at all. I expect the NRL to be very inward thinking as there is no immediate benefit to the clubs. In part, rightly so, their eyes are firmly on the NRL prize and the international competition serves only to injure their stars they have paid so handsomely for. However, as they are the main source of revenue in this country, I believe, there should be a pro-rata cost split between all national RL bodies to the RLIF. At least what cannot be covered by Corp Sponsors. As mentioned above, to take this spectacle away from it's core fans is a pointless and fruitless exercise if there is no pathways legacy in place when it's done.

2019-04-11T00:28:39+00:00

Working Class Rugger

Guest


Their 4 - 12 record begs to differ.

2019-04-10T22:32:26+00:00

Cathar Treize

Roar Guru


Gee as a fan I should hate on it like a few disingenuous posters here? How dare I.

AUTHOR

2019-04-10T21:19:15+00:00

AJ Mithen

Expert


You shouldn’t be surprised Nat that moves are already underway to kill off the World Cup in the USA… No one wants to bear any costs. https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/us-world-cup-hosting-plans-torpedoed-by-money-trouble-20181204-p50k5p.html

AUTHOR

2019-04-10T21:14:56+00:00

AJ Mithen

Expert


Because they’re not, Stavros- 98.4% of those 16,236 college footballers miss out on the NFL!

2019-04-10T14:15:41+00:00

Ad-O

Guest


Jets aren't too bad especially now theey picked up LeVeon Bell. Its just they're in the same division as the Patriots.

2019-04-10T13:07:25+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Hundred percent happened with this bloke as well. They really need to adjust once the helmet comes off. On the flip side with the emphasis in RL of preventing them landing on their pins and getting a quick play the ball. If the technique helps you put them on their back it could be effective (with some tweaking)

AUTHOR

2019-04-10T12:58:08+00:00

AJ Mithen

Expert


He does, Paul – thanks to the wonderful Rugby League Project website I came up with Manfred Moore in ’77, Al Kirkland who played with Parramatta in 1956, Vuna and Newton as the American born players. The total is five rather than four though, because I forgot Greg Smith who played one shocking NRL game for Newcastle in 1999. There’s some footage of him not doing well at 1.35 in this video… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH2KwvA404A&feature=youtu.be&t=92

AUTHOR

2019-04-10T12:30:02+00:00

AJ Mithen

Expert


This is a fantastic story Beznez, I love it. The Walker brothers were also talking about a college player they were trialling who was getting concussed because he kept putting his head in the wrong place when he was trying to tackle... Thanks for the posts.

2019-04-10T11:59:51+00:00

Rugbyrah

Roar Rookie


NRL should expand to include the only nation on the world where rugby league is the number 1 sport.

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