Should New Zealand have really won the 2011 Rugby World Cup?

By Isaac Buatava / Roar Pro

Israel Folau, will he or won’t he take Rugby Australia to court? Raelene Castle, will she and should she survive the whole Folau saga? Can RA afford a long drawn-out episode in the courts? These questions currently dominate the headlines here in Australia. Worse, it’s a World Cup year!

Questions about who our best option is to start at five-eighth and who should be at the top of the list for the fullback spot should dominate discussion but, regrettably, this isn’t the case, so I’m doing my bit to change the subject and tone of the rugby conversation in Australia.

And what better way to do so than lob a few grenades over the ditch to our Kiwi neighbours. All tongue in cheek, of course!

My dear Kiwi friends, before you pull out the obvious comebacks, know only that we are jealous of your rugby success and so on, which I will address next. So credit where credit’s due!

But now onto the first grenade: your Rugby World Cup successes, which I would argue still do not match those of Australia’s. Yes, I know – three World Cups to two, et cetera, but unfortunately I must rain on your parade.

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The first, in 1987, was a hastily put together invitational tournament in which you played all but one game on home soil. The second was totally on home soil.

Having the odds stacked in your favour for two of your World Cup victories diminishes the achievement. So does that mean our two Rugby World Cup wins, played thousands of kilometres from home, in unfamiliar conditions and in hostile territory, trump your three titles?

Absolutely!

Before you start commenting, I have one more grenade to throw. And if the above doesn’t get a reaction, this one hopefully will.

In the 2011 Rugby World Cup final, the French were robbed.

Yes, robbed!

It is not an accusation I underarm lightly, but the following is my carefully considered opinion supported by indisputable video footage. The footage highlights indisputably the exact incident which, if correctly adjudicated, would have given France victory.

Before we get to the robbery, it must be highlighted that the referee in charge was Craig Joubert. Mr Joubert’s interpretation of the rules, as was the case with the final itself, meant turnover ball at the breakdown came at a premium.

To successfully pilfer the pill, it had to be almost perfectly executed before any clean out was initiated. He was quick to call, “Ruck, hands off!”, making the pilfer a rarity under his arbitration.

Attacking teams under Joubert got the rub of the green in that if there was any infringement made at the breakdown in attempting a turnover, a penalty would ensue. The lack of turnover ball and counter-attacking rugby made the 8-7 final score no surprise.

So it came as a shock that at around 74:55 on the clock a blatant infringement by repeat offender Jerome Kaino at the breakdown went unpunished. If a penalty was given by Joubert, the ever-reliable Dimitri Yachvili would have slotted the three-pointer for a famous 10-8 victory to France.

Now to the shocking evidence. The infringement, as illustrated in the first picture below, shows clearly Kaino not supporting his body weight in attempting to turn over the ball.

In the second picture below, with Kaino completing the pilfer illegally, the ball in hand and Kaino unable to support himself on two feet, he falls to the ground.

I can still hear the echo of halfback Yachvili (shown below) shouting, “Monsieur Joubert, penalty s’il vous plait!”. When the penalty does not come? “Sacre bleu!”.

The shot also shows again from another angle Kaino not supporting his body weight and Joubert looking straight at the play. It cannot be argued that Joubert’s vision was hampered.

One more snapshot just to ram home the irrefutable. The still below shows Kaino at the end of that phase. He is now on the ground, letting the ball go as he is worried about turning the ball over illegally, expecting like everyone else outside New Zealand a penalty to France to be blown. Just look at his face. Guilty!

But a penalty was not given and play continued to the next breakdown, where a scrum was given with the feed to France. Even the knock-on wasn’t ruled. To this day I am still baffled.

There you have it. I cannot envisage any opposing view of validity. It’s clear the 2015 Rugby World Cup is really the only one New Zealand should crow about.

In conclusion, history may not see the French as the winners of the 2011 Rugby World Cup, but in my heart they will always be the victors.

And to my fellow Australians, rest assured we can sleep easy knowing our two Rugby World Cups, were won fairly and squarely on the shores of the enemy.

If the article warrants comment, I look forward to replying without bias and in the balanced manner in which I have penned this article.

The Crowd Says:

2020-11-25T20:29:10+00:00

Tanguy Fertil

Guest


Nz might have been the best team in the world but on this final game France was robbed, no picture, 3 or four tries not given, shameful . Why Kiwis can t admit this??? all rugby expert agreed on this. It jus take to watch the game and analyse it , so obvious

2020-11-25T20:25:05+00:00

Tanguy Fertil

Guest


Thank you for this article Yes it completely right France got robbed So unfair

2019-06-18T01:27:33+00:00

Ryan

Roar Rookie


Martin - that's complete rubbish, Loe was feared by the opposition and celebrated by us Kiwis for his tough hard nosed attitude. His legend will live on and be replicated for years to come.

2019-06-02T16:35:24+00:00

Duncan

Guest


There was nothing ‘hard but fair’ about Meads ending Ken Catchpole’s career... but the kiwis gave him a knighthood!?!

2019-06-02T13:32:36+00:00

Kiwikrs

Roar Rookie


Payback for the Rainbow Warrior?

2019-06-02T13:30:11+00:00

Kiwikrs

Roar Rookie


The joke. You

2019-06-02T13:28:24+00:00

Kiwikrs

Roar Rookie


Is AFL it's own sport? I channel surfed once and thought I was watching a televised U7s match with everyone just flocking the ball.

2019-06-02T13:26:29+00:00

Kiwikrs

Roar Rookie


I love a good "this isn't worth a comment" comment.

2019-06-02T13:25:13+00:00

Kiwikrs

Roar Rookie


I would love Japan to make it out of their pool

2019-06-02T13:13:22+00:00

Kiwikrs

Roar Rookie


Oi! That's just not cricket mate.

2019-06-01T04:50:03+00:00

Gary 1675

Roar Rookie


Australia played at home in 87 " not good enough " again in 2003 and once again " not good enough " the All Blacks have done home and away end of story! World Cups are good but history means more and we all know well over a hundred years the Australian team "hasn't and most certainly in my life time as well as yours" will never be in front on that count either. The World Cup is a tournament and anyone can win, even you guys have got lucky twice.

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2019-06-01T04:34:23+00:00

Isaac Buatava

Roar Pro


Cameron Bancroft might have had crabs....that's why the sandpaper!

2019-06-01T03:15:52+00:00

Danny

Roar Pro


I want to report a muckraker.

2019-06-01T00:37:21+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Isaac was making light of some dark periods in relations T’man. I thought it funny. But you think this to be ‘petty’. Oh well, we will put it in the box of things we differ on. But our indigenous jersey looks good don’t you think?

2019-05-31T23:37:01+00:00

Meg

Guest


It’s better that the ABs play in NZ to avoid being robbed at WC finals by “food poisoning”....95 should have gone another way.... so the numbers still stack up!

2019-05-31T23:29:02+00:00

taylorman

Roar Guru


Really? Bit petty really.

2019-05-31T23:09:15+00:00

Benjamin Kumar

Guest


Honestly Typical Never wanna Acknowledge any of Nz accomplishments with League WorldCup win, Netball and Now Rugby Union WorldCup Wins. AllBlacks have dominated every country consistently yeah some wins have been by refs calls etc but that's sports for u. Calls get missed or called wrong but at the end a Win Is a Win either by 1 point or 100 points. Australia with underarm tactic was planned and tampering with Cricket Ball also Planned cos they couldn't win by playing in the rules. Playing and winning on home ground or not holding body weight that happened in the moment not planned during get the break like The 2 Cheating moments of Australias decisions. So mate get over it and face the Truth Australia will cheat to win, AllBlacks will push the rules to the max limit and if the ref doesn't call it then its fair play. So Grab some sand paper hide it in ur pocket and tamper ur thoughts about the AllBlack's Wins not as worthy as Australias. Lmao record books show it all anyways WorldCup set to be another accomplishment for Current 2 Time DEFENDING AND 3 TIME RUGBY WORLDCUP CHAMPIONS THE MIGHTY ALLBLACKS to make it a 3peats of Wins. C if the Wannabes get out of Pool Play. Throw that on ur BBQ and smoke it.

2019-05-31T22:37:19+00:00

Nobody

Roar Rookie


Why not? Might as well make your outrageous claim straight out.

2019-05-31T18:49:36+00:00

Phantom

Roar Rookie


NZ 4 cups Australia nil would be the correct ratio.

2019-05-31T16:53:37+00:00

Joseph

Guest


Sour grapes! You can spare that last grenade ???? ???? for your own self-destruction because it's all nonsense. Get over the fact that the ABs have won 3 WC and Wallabies only 2.????????????

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