No obligation to follow women's rugby

By Istanbul Wingman / Roar Guru

I think it’s great that women’s rugby is taking off.

Yes, I’m fully aware they don’t need my seal of approval, of course.

I’m just a sports fan who believes in the benefits of healthy recreation. But the fact it is becoming popular does not oblige me to become a follower.

I’m no couch potato, and as it is, there is so much rugby out there these days I am forced to prioritise and confine my interest to certain competitions.

The responsibility of following women’s rugby is neither mine nor that of male fans in general. It is the responsibility of those interested in the women’s game.

If we look at the internet and see who is actually writing about rugby, whether it be articles, blogs, letters or contributions to chat forums, it is overwhelmingly men. Where are the hordes of women on The Roar, for example?

Anyone can contribute. The site says so itself. But, unless I am missing something, we are not being inundated with articles submitted by ardent female rugby fanatics.

Even where women’s rugby itself is concerned, you are more likely to find men writing and chatting about it, than women.

On one chat forum I was asked why I didn’t include women’s results in my regular international round-ups. In fact, I didn’t cover juniors or sevens either.

Neither were there any women on that forum. But I set up a ‘women’s rugby’ thread just to keep them happy, and when the argument resurfaced a few months later, was able to point out that no one had contributed to that thread except me!

As a sports reporter during my youth I gave more attention to netball than any other winter code bar rugby. I’m talking about women’s netball and men’s rugby, of course. There was men’s netball, in fact, though few spectators at the games, and no apparent interest from the public.

Needless to add, they were not demanding the attention of female netball fans nor equal treatment from the national association.

The Wallaroos. (Image: ARU Media)

Conversely, both international netball and professional competition are sanctioned for women only and it is one of the few single-gender sports in New Zealand to be permitted by its governing body.

In the summer there was cricket and softball. The former was male-dominated, but female participation in the latter was roughly equal to male participation. I therefore gave both men’s and women’s softball competition the same amount of coverage.

Women’s rugby was just getting off the ground at the time, and no sooner had it done so than mainstream media snapped to attention and began providing it with seemingly more coverage than any other female sport.

This did not appear based on merit, and must have been viewed with bemusement by the netball community – one of the largest in New Zealand sports, and with a long and proud history.

Moreover, just who was the target audience for this seemingly disproportionate coverage – women themselves, or the wider, male-dominated rugby community? Does it follow, then, that the male-dominated sports media really only takes notice of women’s competition when it is a game they are interested in themselves?

It is difficult to find statistics on registered female rugby players, match attendances and estimated TV viewers. Those I have stumbled across compare to men’s rugby in developing ‘third tier’ nations such as Senegal, Denmark and Kazakhstan.

Even allowing for recent growth, they do not remotely come close to men’s. I wonder, also, what proportion of those attendances and TV viewing audiences are female? From the various crowd shots I’ve seen, I would doubt they are in the majority.

Women’s rugby sevens has made an impact. (AP Photo/Themba Hadebe)

I’m glad women are taking to rugby and that the international governing body is giving it due attention.

But we wouldn’t want to end up like US soccer where gender discrimination lawsuits are rife and one is required to speak of the ‘Men’s World Cup’.

Enough of the emotional blackmail. Male rugby fans are under no more obligation to follow the women’s game than female netball fans are required to support men in that game. It’s a matter of choice.

The Crowd Says:

2019-06-17T12:00:35+00:00

Aussieinexile

Roar Rookie


I totally agree with you on this article, I have coached women and they want to be treated with the same respect as the men and equal share of resources. I have been to games that there are hardly anyone. but that is freedom of choice. Having been involved in women's Rugby for a number of years because is different in terms of physicality but I found it at that time more technical which not everyone's cup of tea. My argument against the administrators of the game is that they all say equal rights etc.. but when it comes down to it, it doesn't mean equal resources. there are clubs where women are ranked higher than men but don't get the same resource allocation a the men's team (I am strictly speaking 1st XV Setups). *Going off topic and talking about women's rugby it will be interesting to see how the Olympic Qualification goes, now that France and England have missed out on a top 4.

2019-06-17T10:20:12+00:00

Mick Gold Coast QLD

Roar Guru


Yes Istanbul Wingman, well done – an objective piece in which you substantiate the points you make. It is pleasing to see you have generated a useful exchange by adults too. I must say I am surprised the flash mob has not descended to declare you a witch!

2019-06-16T02:03:33+00:00

Offside

Roar Rookie


I've said it before, this site needs a laugh emoji :-D

2019-06-15T07:15:29+00:00

The Neutral View From Sweden

Roar Guru


It is a man's world ;)

AUTHOR

2019-06-15T06:25:14+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


There are sports where I'd just as soon watch women, but rugby and soccer are not among them due to the quality.

AUTHOR

2019-06-15T06:22:19+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Precisely my point. It's not just the playing numbers which are overwhelmingly male, it's the spectators, TV audiences, critics and keyboard warriors - evidently.

2019-06-14T23:12:33+00:00

ClarkeG

Roar Guru


A little mischievous of you Ben. "Kelvin R Tremain Memorial Player of the Year" - from the NZR website. Not sure this award is for "the best player". Are you also wondering why the Black Fern 7s did not represent NZR in the mens World 7s Series? Should we be rallying for Thames Valley to be included in this years NPC? Are you also wondering why Sarah Goss (Hirini) is without a super rugby contract?

AUTHOR

2019-06-14T10:04:44+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Good points, but just to reiterate that my beef is not with women at all. On the contrary, it is with the male-dominated sports media, administrative virtue-signalers and certain sanctimonious male fans who seem to think everything rugby should be absolutely equal even though the women's game is much newer and still only involves a fraction as many players.

2019-06-14T07:42:04+00:00

westown

Guest


Great article. Women's sport doesn't want equality, it wants handouts for inferior sports people producing inferior sporting contests. True equality would mean no gender differentiation, women would compete with men, but then we all know that the top levels would be completely devoid of women if ability and competitiveness became the only differentiation. We live in an age of identity politics, where strangely, higher status and power has become aligned with being the most precious and pathetic.

AUTHOR

2019-06-14T06:24:05+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


The awards should be kept separate all the way through, unless they also want to integrate men and women on the pitch.

2019-06-14T06:23:03+00:00

The Neutral View From Sweden

Roar Guru


Feminism and immigration have got out of hand in Sweden. I would describe myself as a free-thinking socialist but have I lost a lot of faith in Sweden (hence I chose to live abroad).

AUTHOR

2019-06-14T06:20:35+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Actually, there has been some pressure from the growing male netball community in recent years, but simply been shut down with little interest from the media.

AUTHOR

2019-06-14T06:18:16+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Yes, we've all seen what's happened to Assange, despite the women involved in the case having denied it from the outset and complained about pressure from the police. Obviously there are extenuating factors there!

2019-06-14T03:28:42+00:00

Jacko

Guest


I find it rather sad that equal rights only refers to women having what men have.....i am yet to see the big push for a male Pro Netball comp.......

2019-06-14T03:21:59+00:00

The Neutral View From Sweden

Roar Guru


I lived in SE Asia for almost eight years ;) But I will actually move back to Sweden for a year or two very very soon (job-related). But as soon as that job contract is done, I am for sure leaving again, maybe NZ or OZ, maybe back to Asia, but most likely to Buenos Aires (been in love with that city for decades).

2019-06-14T02:59:01+00:00

Neel

Roar Guru


Gee that is horrible. Well they have the self proclaimed first feminist government in the world and I thought they would be inclusive. I guess I was wrong. Are you thinking of leaving Sweden mate?

2019-06-14T02:56:49+00:00

Neel

Roar Guru


Most sensible article regarding this topic I have read. I prefer not to watch women’s sport as it just doesn’t have the same sort of thrill that male sports has. It is just a preference. There’s nothing sexist about it.

2019-06-14T02:55:48+00:00

The Neutral View From Sweden

Roar Guru


Swedish men are getting a very raw deal these days. In the public debate, feminism doesn't mean feminism, it mean equality... #MeToo in Sweden got so out of hand it is not even funny to joke about. Several men have got their lives completely ruined on hearsay. If a man gets accused of something on the Internet (never mind that the police has acquitted them) they have to prove their innocence in public, otherwise, they are persona non grata and will lose their jobs.

2019-06-14T02:37:55+00:00

Neel

Roar Guru


How is it over there regarding equality mate?

2019-06-14T02:19:08+00:00

The Neutral View From Sweden

Roar Guru


Yup, if woman wanna earn more money, try to get female audiences. But the "sisters" could not care less, they just wanna complain about males.

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