Revive stop-off Tests to help tier-two nations

By Istanbul Wingman / Roar Guru

Back in the day, it was fashionable for teams to include stop-off Tests in minor rugby-playing nations during overseas tours, and this undoubtedly helped the development of the sport in those places.

The practice was especially common in the pre-air travel era. New Zealand played a couple of games in British Columbia on the way home from each of their first three tours of Europe, for example.

The Kiwis won all of them comfortably enough, though the scorelines were significantly closer in 1935 than they had been in 1905 and 1925, indicating some degree of improvement on the part of their hosts.

These teams also made stop-overs in the Pacific Islands. The 1913 All Blacks, returning from a full-scale tour of North America itself, are known to have played an unofficial match against Fiji in Suva.

The New Zealand Rugby Museum website states the All Blacks won 67-3 after conceding an early try. “Storr opened the scoring at the beginning of the game and try upon try and goal upon goal was scored till the whistle blew with the score 67-3.”

Wikipedia mentions a scoreless draw between a scratch team and the All Blacks in Rarotonga, Cook Islands in 1924, as the so-called Invincibles were on their way to Europe. No doubt more of a scrimmage, it could “never have been considered an official international,” the site adds.

Meanwhile, tours to South Africa often included fixtures with Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) and South West Africa (Namibia). The former famously defeated the All Blacks 10-8 in 1949. New Zealand duly avenged this with a 29-14 win on the 1960 tour, and also played a local XV in Northern Rhodesia, now Zambia, winning 13-9.

After World War 2, international air travel became more regular, but long-haul flights were nonetheless required to make stop-overs, and the fixtures in minor nations continued.

In 1955 the All Blacks played three games in North America, including one in California, while on the 1967 and 1972 tours they played games in North America en route to Europe.

But the practice seems to have been abandoned thereafter, as direct flights to far off locations increased. Indeed, tours in general became significantly shorter. The grand slam All Blacks of 1978 only played half as many games (18) as the original All Blacks had on their tour in 1905 (35).

The 2005 All Blacks, by comparison, simply played four straight Tests. Midweek fixtures against club and regional teams have also fallen by the wayside, though the Kiwis squeezed in a match with Munster during their third grand slam tour in 2008.

And while games in North America, the Pacific Islands and elsewhere appear to have been dropped from the agenda after the 1970s, the All Blacks did play stop-off Tests against other minor rugby nations.

In 1976 they defeated Uruguay 64-3 at Montevideo during their tour of Argentina, in fact – a fixture arranged by the UAR – and in 1981 battled to a 14-6 victory over a powerful Romanian team in Bucharest en route to France.

The trend was not to continue in the professional era, however; the exception being occasional fixtures in the US and Japan, where the All Blacks invariably draw sell-out crowds.

Rugby Paper columnist Nick Cain wrote this week that World Rugby’s attempts to develop the second tier have not been successful. They are the same teams as they were at the outset of the World Cup three decades ago, Georgia notwithstanding, and practically no progress has been made.

Georgia take on Germany in the European International Championship. (Levan Verdzeuli/Getty Images)

Meanwhile, England’s attack coach Scott Wisemantel has called for the Rugby Football Union to arrange tours of the Pacific Islands, and to share gate receipts with them during the Autumn tours, according to The Guardian.

Perhaps another solution would be a revival of the stop-off Tests. The Rugby Championship teams could play Tests against the likes of Georgia, Romania and Russia on tours of the Six Nations (Argentina might even play Spain), for example, as well as Japan, the US and Canada.

For their part, Six Nations teams might face Fiji, Samoa and Tonga either in the islands or in New Zealand and Australia themselves during tours Down Under (this has already happened). Italy could perhaps play the Cook Islands – a team they lost to in 1980!

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The Six Nations might also include Namibia on their itineraries when touring South Africa (Italy vs Zimbabwe or Kenya instead), and Uruguay when visiting Argentina (Italy vs Chile or Brazil instead).

British and Irish Lions tours, if they must continue, should follow suit. Fixtures against minor rugby nations were a regular fixture on Lions tours for most of the 20th century, in fact. They met Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) on numerous occasions, South West Africa (Namibia) several times, East Africa (Kenya-Uganda) and Ceylon (Sri Lanka) twice apiece, and both Canada and Fiji once.

Though most of these were won with ease, the Lions did suffer a couple of surprising losses. They were beaten 8-3 by British Columbia at the end of a marathon 35-match tour of Australasia and Canada in 1966, and succumbed 25-21 to Fiji in front of a capacity 25,000 crowd at Suva in 1977.

Just one or two stop-off Tests per tour would make a tremendous difference to the second-tier nations and help integrate them into elite competition. As Nick Cane observed in his column, simply “throwing money at them” isn’t working. Or to put it another way, trade not aid is what’s required.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2019-09-26T08:17:15+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Bermuda beat English club Crowborough 31-12 in London yesterday. They will face Gibraltar in a Test match on Saturday.

AUTHOR

2019-09-26T08:16:35+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Cheers, Jezza. Interesting comments. :thumbup:

2019-09-25T22:42:55+00:00

Emery Ambrose

Roar Rookie


Great article!! I'm starting to believe if we ever want Test rugby to succeed worldwide and in the tier 2 and 3 nations, is to have a meeting with all the WR executives and the private club owners and thrash out a calendar where each is making a fair amount of money, all players are available for their home nation and has at least a 12 week break between seasons. Get the private owners to take investment out of the clubs losing money in France and England and shift to the tier 2 and 3 nations club teams. Make the salary caps lower in Europe and shift the money worldwide, if a French or English owner is happy to lose money, let them lose it in Fiji or Tonga. Let the Six Nations/Rugby Championship continue as the big annual money making show cases but in the other 4-6 tests play 2nd tier teams.

AUTHOR

2019-09-24T08:52:45+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


The UCT Ikey Tigers defeated Bordeaux University 17-3 in Japan on Monday to secure a second-successive World University Rugby Cup title. https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/uct-crowned-world-university-champions/

2019-09-24T01:58:12+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


It's not the cost of going Fiji. If Fiji come to Australia, they probably make more than if Australia play in Fiji.

AUTHOR

2019-09-22T17:13:24+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


X-rugby kicks off in London after the World Cup. This is actually 5-a-side, played indoors. I don't think it'll catch on as a spectator sport, but could be successful as a social sport, suited to company leagues and glorified training runs. It might be suited to Russian and North American winters in particular.

AUTHOR

2019-09-22T17:09:34+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Don't usually follow 7s but this looks newsworthy: "Siviwe Soyizwapi’s converted try at the death enabled South Africa to beat Fiji 12-10 in the final of the Oktoberfest7s in Munich, claiming their first title in the Olympic Stadium on Sunday. https://www.springboks.rugby/en/articles/2019/09/22/South-Africa-claim-Oktoberfest7s?fbclid=IwAR0C5rHfqCKMsJi07VM8SUx22aijpahBUzbWxjGg3yzsG5HO4A8kWywVfSg"

AUTHOR

2019-09-22T15:55:31+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


I can't say that I knew any of the players, and the commentator (ground announcer) wasn't much use for the uninitiated. Enjoyable enough though, despite the diabolical goal-kicking, and more material for my future articles on 2nd and 3rd tier rugby, of course (I'm doing my best). I only watched 3 games this weekend, and just one of those was a World Cup match - France vs Argentina. The other game I saw live was Mongolia vs Taiwan. Narrow win for the former, who were in general a much bulkier side than the Taiwanese. Strangely, though the stadium was practically empty, a half-time performance was given - and went on so long the players and referee ended up standing around on the pitch waiting for it to finish!! Again, the quality was pretty low, but these kinds of games are fun to watch. I'm not going out of my way to see the World Cup at this stage (no trips to the Irish Bar yet). The French game popped up via live stream somehow (I'd have thought World Rugby had that covered) - albeit a minute or so behind real time. What is apparent from the scores is that it's been a case of same old same old so far. Results and winning margins bearing a mind-numbing predictability. Hopefully there'll be an upset or two before long .

AUTHOR

2019-09-22T07:26:40+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


The reason for the floggings is the lack of expose tier 2 and 3 teams receive to this level of rugby, so it's a Catch 22 in that sense. Playing them at the World Cup but not in between is like asking them to take the big exam without providing any lessons beforehand.

2019-09-22T07:22:16+00:00

From North

Roar Rookie


There is one large retractable roof stadium in St. Petersburg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHJpAttCM8E Theoretically, it can be rented for the games of the Russian national team. But as a one-time event. Large cities have indoor football arenas for training in winter. For example, in Krasnoyarsk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm7-79etGWw But they are not suitable for holding full-fledged matches of professional rugby teams. Maximum for training, which in quality can not be compared with training in the open air and natural grass. Although children's tournaments in such arenas are actively conducted.

2019-09-22T00:44:21+00:00

gatesy

Roar Guru


The other thing I would add is that perhaps some of the rising stars of the lower tier nations could be offered "scholarships" or even contracts with clubs in Aus and NZ, or potentially academy spots as long as they are not keeping Aussie kids out. I agree with the sentiment that you don't send tier one teams to tier two or three countries just to give them a flogging, but maybe in off RWC years Australia and NZ could consider sending non-capped Super Rugby teams, or NRC/ NPC teams on tours to some of these places. Maybe our Shute Shield or Hospital Cup teams, etc could get some funding from above to embark on an annual tour - say, the Championship teams from NSE, Qld, ACT, Vic and Perth, even SA and the Darwin Mozzies. I know that there is a lot of activity on the Sevens scene, but we are trying to raise the level of 15's.

2019-09-22T00:37:04+00:00

gatesy

Roar Guru


Agree entirely, and I concede that, as an armchair fan, with no knowledge of how a Union allocates its hard won resources, I am out of order, but the principle is sound. You need look no further than the inclusion of the Fiji Ndrua in our National Rugby Championship. How many of their first and second year players played in the first test against Australia at RWC?

AUTHOR

2019-09-21T20:53:25+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Bermuda 33 Guadeloup 10 North American final

2019-09-21T19:30:06+00:00

Oblonsky‘s Other Pun

Roar Guru


Are there not indoor soccer stadiums that can be rented if required?

2019-09-21T16:51:42+00:00

From North

Roar Rookie


Yes, but wrong development decisions can slow down growth very much. For example, a limit on foreigners. In the squads for the season, a maximum of 8 foreigners, in the starting lineup a maximum of 5 foreigners. At the same time, in 3 years the league should expand by 2 times. In 2018 there were 6 clubs, in 2019 8 clubs, in 2020 10 clubs, in 2021 12 clubs. So the number of players should increase by more than 2 times. But given the very weak level of youth rugby outside Krasnoyarsk (the level of youth rugby in Moscow, St. Petersburg and others is comparable with Poland and Lithuania at the moment), then you can not enter limits. On the contrary, you need the maximum influx of cool foreign players and coaches in order for clubs to grow. As they did in Japan. So far, the RUR cannot understand this simple thing. I tell them. Cancel the limits on foreigners for 5 years. For clubs to have 10-20 foreigners in an squads for the season in both France and Japan. Then it’s realistic to create a league comparable to the Japanese Top League and PROD2. During these 5 years, you can set up club schools and create academies. Then in 5 years it will be possible to think about introducing a limit for foreigners. Now this makes no sense. Need growth.

AUTHOR

2019-09-21T16:07:34+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Russia does have a professional domestic league, at least, which is even attracting a few foreigners from countries like SA & NZ. That certainly augurs well for the future.

AUTHOR

2019-09-21T15:24:40+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Paraguay 109 Bolivia 0 Test debut for Bolivia

AUTHOR

2019-09-21T14:56:31+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Czechia 64 Hungary 0

AUTHOR

2019-09-21T14:50:33+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Kenya 36 Zimbabwe 14 Zimbabwe had already won the (Victoria Cup) tournament.

2019-09-21T12:10:33+00:00

From North

Roar Rookie


Our usual home rugby season is from April to October. This allows 80% of all games to play in good weather. To play in winter as in Europe we need to build indoor stadiums. This requires gigantic budgets of hundreds of millions of dollars.

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