Five talking points from Collingwood Magpies vs GWS Giants AFL preliminary final

By Sarah Wildy / Roar Guru

In an intense finish, the GWS Giants have prevailed as our second AFL grand finalist for 2019 after defeating the Collingwood Magpies by four points.

Here are my five talking points from Saturday evening’s preliminary final.

1. Giants’ prelim hoodoo over
There’s a big, big sound from the west of the town…

After preliminary final losses in ’16 and ’17, and a semi-final exit last year, the GWS Giants are through to the big dance for the first time.

The only team to win a final every year for the past four years, it was a big day for the small contingent of fans decked out in the orange and charcoal behind the goals.

Seemingly unfazed by the 70,000 Magpie supporters for most of the match, and silencing them in the third term, the GWS Giants were up and about, controlling the game fairly comfortably for three quarters.

When Collingwood came in the final quarter and went for a run four goals, GWS held on thanks to some brilliant defensive efforts and the ability to hold the footy in at the contest.

With Phil Davis down (though, not out), Nick Haynes and his backline stood up.

Zac Williams in the midfield was a revelation, while Harry Perryman and Matt De Boer put the clamps on Steele Sidebottom and Scott Pendlebury.

2. September rain evens the contest
Melbourne’s wet weather made it a slog on Saturday evening, and the team working harder was able to get the win.

It was evident early that the match would be a low-scoring affair, and tough going with rain falling heavily – just five goals were scored between the sides to half-time.

The rain made it easier to lockdown on players and restrict the skill and speed at which Collingwood prefer to move the ball.

Darcy Moore kept the Pies in it, and when the rain eased, the Magpies got going, and boy, what a difference it made.

Everyone jumped aboard then, and a relentless run it was.

Chris Mayne, quiet for much of the game, was a man possessed in the final term, and Josh Thomas got on the end of a couple lucky goals.

Unfortunately for Collingwood, Eddie McGuire might be God to some, but he does not have control of the weather.

The run after the weather passed was left too late for the Pies to come away with the win.

Brodie Grundy had a remarkable 73 hit-outs, 25 disposals and ten clearances, doing his absolute best.

(Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

But at ground level, Collingwood lost the clearances by 16.

3. GWS injury curse continues
If the injury crisis at GWS wasn’t already bad enough, their co-captain Phil Davis battled through injury in this preliminary final.

His trouble began in the warm up, when a dislocated finger was fixed by Adam Tomlinson.

Then, in the opening term – just three minutes into the game – Davis put his hand up and came from the ground following a contest in the defensive goal square.

The skipper headed to the rooms and received treatment on his right leg, a tight calf revealed as the issue.

Davis re-appeared at full-forward, where he put a tackle on Chris Mayne, aggravating his already strapped-up shoulder.

The defender, turned forward, battled through the second half and post-match, he said it was his back.

Meanwhile, coach Leon Cameron said it was a tight calf: “when Phil has a tight calf, it generally comes from his back.”

Will he play next week? I hope so.

4. The ARC caught sleeping
The AFL Review Centre appears to have missed one, an important one, in the final term.

After over-turning a Scott Pendlebury goal earlier in the match, the ARC let a Josh Thomas goal go, all clear, while vision appears to have Heath Shaw and Lachlan Keeffe touching the ball.

Thankfully for the AFL, GWS withstood the Magpies’ onslaught and held on by four points. If they had not, legal action would not have been out of the question.

It was a shocking non-call; the fingers visibly bend backwards. It helped Collingwood in their run of goals and almost got them the win.

The AFL put the review centre together because, ‘what if this happens in a final?’ and sure enough, it appears not even the ARC could make the right decision here.

A bit to play out with this as the AFL says there was “insufficient evidence”, but the video footage and graphics tell us viewers a very different story.

5. How many changes can the Giants make?
Toby Greene comes into the side, that is a no-brainer.

(Photo by Adam Trafford/AFL Media/Getty Images)

Lachie Whitfield, assuming ten days is enough to recover from appendicitis, plays.

Will Phil Davis be fit to play? He says so.

Does Stephen Coniglio get up for the last game of the season? A chance, says Leon Cameron.

Some huge decisions to be made at selection this week, but how many changes can be made? Two are more than likely, but any further calls could make for some big grand final week stories.

It’s also hard to remove players from a winning side, particularly one who holds on in such a tough manner.

Their grand final opponent is Richmond, who also have some decisions to make on the injury front.

The Tigers are on an 11-win streak, but these Giants – coming from sixth place – have been able to get the job done in finals this year.

We should be in for a cracker next Saturday, with both sides arguably among the best teams over the last three years.

The Crowd Says:

2019-09-23T10:43:54+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


Sorry neither of us made it. Maybe next year.

2019-09-23T07:14:19+00:00

Yawn of the Dead

Guest


yes. if you were a team coming from the bottom, you would get 12 or so first rounders across a decade. and if you retained them all, the oldest would be 28 or so. so 14 first rounders is really what every club should be aiming for

2019-09-23T07:09:49+00:00

Yawn of the Dead

Guest


Carey smashing Kellaway's nose Rd 22 1996, didn't ease your pain? Your holiness should forgive. From what i remember of 74, the North mercenaries were supported by every club because they all had a former great running around with the Roos...?!

2019-09-23T03:48:06+00:00

Dave

Guest


Tipping a comfortable 44 point win by the Tigers with the tight as Tiger defence to keep the Giants to under 60 points! Riewoldt to bounce back with 4 goals, Lynch will kick at least 3 and Martin, Prestia, Rioli and Castagna to combine for another 8!

2019-09-23T03:04:30+00:00

Ian

Guest


As a long time St Kilda follower, you haven't had many opportunities to be overcome with a warm fuzzy feeling in September, have you? One solitary premiership since 1873! Pretty sad comment really.

2019-09-23T02:03:08+00:00

Chris

Guest


As a true maggie I would have preferred a thumping so that the scum gets out fast and leaves our dear old club alone.

2019-09-23T00:57:18+00:00

Pieman

Guest


My point isnt about 1st round picks its about coaching and knowing who to keep to win a flag. Pies have x GWS players and every other thing buckley has wanted and he hasnt delivered a flag. Dont kid yourself GWS are ready to win one next saturday ...tigers have to be at there very best to win this one. I lean towards GWS winning there first flag. Its a well coached team and a pretty good club to get to this point. Lets face it if you really want a national comp to work you cant have a new team taking 20 years to get into a grand final...they need some help but this comes down to a club developing a good atmosphere. It still takes alot of work.

2019-09-22T14:51:17+00:00

Raimond

Roar Guru


There are some parallels to the Crows of '97. The big difference being the quality of opponent.

2019-09-22T11:29:44+00:00

Zed16

Guest


IAP you are way off the mark with your comments on GWS. Carlton had 14 first round picks starting in their last match against Geelong about 4 weeks ago. This did not include these 3 who would be in their starting line up; - Charlie Curnow - Caleb Marchbank - Sam Docherty

2019-09-22T11:21:38+00:00

Mogofooty

Guest


Salty!! Having 1st rounders is no guarantee mate. Yes they were lucky in the sense that they had a couple of super drafts.. but how many talented 1st rounders are disappointments or duds!? They have done a great job of developing these guys.. in comparison to many other clubs out there. Any new club needs concessions otherwise they will never get going.. dont you get that. And it's no guarantee of a premiership.. look at GC!!

2019-09-22T11:16:58+00:00

Lamby

Roar Rookie


Who needs draft picks when you can get players like Lynch for nothing!!

2019-09-22T11:00:22+00:00

6x6 perkele

Roar Rookie


Paying$51 won 15 games gotta be a good smokey bet like I've taken.

2019-09-22T10:58:07+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Yesteryear.

2019-09-22T10:57:47+00:00

Neville

Guest


Ordinary????? How many more high end picks and is the academy all of NSW now????? every time you trade one out and get another first round, hmmmm wonder what corporation thought up this sceme for sustainment (probably the same one paying player payments as it sure isnt gate takings like the rest of the comp!

2019-09-22T10:43:36+00:00

6x6 perkele

Roar Rookie


In the end cast your mind back to the absolute joke that was the Brisbane bears creation caused by Victorian sides annoyed at their concessions ie Carlton. This is the reason the AFL has given better concessions to formation clubs since, as Victoria sowed so shall they reap, VFL clubs caused this in the end by screwing any non Victorian sides through arrogance and fear even though they where mostly trading insolvent via extremely poor business practice. Thankfully Ross Oakley saw this and got rid off the dead wood but unfortunately was stopped before the job was done.

2019-09-22T10:11:55+00:00

bradfordkenneth

Roar Rookie


Very satisfying to se the Pies get so tantalisingly close and then lose. Better than if they'd lost by ten goals.

2019-09-22T10:03:16+00:00

Yawn of the Dead

Guest


Sheedy?

2019-09-22T10:03:10+00:00

Pope Paul VII

Roar Rookie


Yep. Stuffed it big time. I can remember the 1974 GF and the Richmond carry on then. If they lose it won't bother me.

2019-09-22T09:58:07+00:00

IAP

Guest


Good Coast didn’t get the same level of concessions as GWS, and they don’t get to tap into traditional footy areas (the Riverina) as part of their academy.

2019-09-22T09:56:53+00:00

IAP

Guest


Academies in Victoria is an absurd concept; they have the best under 18’s comp in the land - so good in fact that they have two teams that compete in the National comp (Vic metro and Vic country). Kids have opportunity and pathways there. I can appreciate that some would think father-son is an unfair advantage, but I’m a traditionalist so I love it. Sooner or later your club will get the same advantage. Wallis, Libba and Hunter have all been very good pick ups.

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