Why Ireland will still win the Rugby World Cup

By Teddy Parker / Roar Rookie

After last week’s shock defeat to World Cup hosts Japan, many will believe that the Irish are dead in the water.

With a likely match-up against reigning champions New Zealand, pundits give the men in green little chance of progressing past the World Cup quarter-finals, a feat they are yet to achieve in the tournament’s 32-year history. But is this a foregone conclusion?

Ireland looked tired and devoid of attacking flair without their chief playmaker Johnny Sexton in their ranks, with regular stalwarts such as Conor Murray and CJ Stander failing to make the grade on the biggest stage of all. Even Ireland’s talismanic flyer Jacob Stockdale could do little to curb the relentless nature of Japan’s attack, buoyed by a partisan crowd at the Shizuoka Stadium.

This was followed by an underwhelming bonus-point victory against Russia in which Ireland laboured to a 35-0 win that won’t leave Rassie Erasmus or Steve Hansen shaking in their boots for a potential last-eight showdown.

A bonus-point victory over Samoa would guarantee Ireland a space in the quarter-finals with the true fate of Pool A lying firmly in the hands of the hosts, who could top the group with a win in their remaining fixture against Scotland. Let us presume that this is the case and Ireland come runners-up in the group to face the All Blacks on October 19.

The pressure on New Zealand going into this fixture would be immense and they will go into the game with the favourite tag firmly stapled to their ear – a tag they took in their stride for so long, until recently. With losses in 2019 to southern hemisphere counterparts South Africa and Australia still fresh in the memory, the aura of invincibility that has followed the men in black on the international stage is in tatters.

Australia shocked the All Blacks in Perth. (Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

If we delve into the archives of the Webb Ellis Cup, we can see that group-stage form isn’t the ultimate barometer of a team’s chances of success later on in the tournament.

Back in 2007, England were humbled 0-36 by the Springboks in what was billed as the Group A decider. With two games left to go in the pool stage, many feared that their World Cup defence would not outlive the preliminary rounds. Five weeks later a galvanised England side made the final, only to lose narrowly again to the South Africans.

In 2011 France were stunned 14-19 by Tonga in a huge upset. That same French side went on to make the knockout stages, brushing aside England and Wales before agonisingly missing out on the top prize by a single point to the All Blacks at Eden Park.

What do these teams of years gone by share with Joe Schmidt’s men? The answer lies in one pivotal area: experience.

In 2007, England looked to a nucleus of former World Cup winning men such as Lawrence Dallaglio, Josh Lewsey and Jonny Wilkinson to lead their World Cup revival. The French relied on the likes of Dimitri Yachvili, Vincent Clerc and Thierry Dusautoir to turn around their tournament.

These players were the bedrock upon which their sides’ World Cup assault was launched and that experience and tactical nous steadied the ship in their tumultuous campaigns. Both of these sides were forced to adopt a siege mentality against the damning press pieces and fan backlash to come together and truly unite towards a common goal of escaping an embarrassing exit.

Ireland now find themselves in that same pressure cooker in which England and France once dwelled. Can they adopt the same siege mentality that has proved so successful in tournaments gone by?

The answer to that question is yes, and if that is the case, then we are looking at a formidable Irish side going into the knockout stages – and one that is capable of going all the way.

(Photo by Ashley Western/MB Media/Getty Images)

Despite Ireland’s loss to Japan, there is certainly that same bedrock to build upon as we move on in the tournament. Here are some names to back up that claim.

Rory Best (37), Jonathan Sexton (34), Rob Kearney (33), Cian Healy (32), Keith Earls (32), Peter O’Mahony (30), Conor Murray (30). See where I’m going?

These men have won Heineken Cup finals, Lions Series and Grand Slams but perhaps, more importantly, they have come through adversity. Look back to 2013 when the Lions had to overcome a second Test loss to the Wallabies to eventually win in the series decider at the ANZ Stadium.

In 2014, these players made up the spine of a side that won the 6 Nations with a title decider at the Stade de France despite losing to England in the third round. A year later they retained the trophy after losing a thriller in Cardiff.

Perhaps the most telling statistic that can be attributed to all seven of these Irish starters is that they have all played on winning sides against the All Blacks, on multiple occasions. Not something that can be said for many north of the equator.

If Ireland are to take the field on November 2 to fight it out for World Cup glory then they will surely need a return to form for their halfback pairing of Murray and Sexton. Under their stewardship, they have defeated the All Blacks twice with Ireland and the Lions (Kieran Marmion playing No.9 in Ireland’s victory over New Zealand in 2018).

If they tick, Ireland will tick and that will be the catalyst on which an Irish World Cup victory can be achieved.

No side has ever lost a game in the pool stages and gone on to win the Webb Ellis trophy. Some have come close – England in ’91 and ’07 along with France in 2011.

Joe Schmidt will believe his side can emulate this feat and go on to make their first World Cup semi-final in history and perhaps beyond.

In a year of incredulous sporting comebacks, surely Ireland couldn’t go on to become the second northern hemisphere world champions.

Surely not?

The Crowd Says:

2019-10-16T12:21:34+00:00

Kane

Roar Guru


Is that another 'grandparent' player currently on their way to the Ireland team?

2019-10-14T00:17:22+00:00

Rhyno

Roar Rookie


..and to beat us twice in over 100 years is a wee scratch in relation to the deep scars they bare.

2019-10-13T16:38:02+00:00

Kane

Roar Guru


I wasn’t aware of the intentionally fatigued players. How’d they do that?

2019-10-13T14:25:02+00:00

Taniwha

Roar Rookie


Spot on Kane, Wayne Smith shed some light on why the ABs looked flat in their pool games. In the documentary ”For the Love of the Game.” Smith mentions how they had intentionally fatigued players before the pool games in the 2015 world cup.

2019-10-13T12:04:45+00:00

Bevan

Guest


This is the most baseless argument since my wife told me yelling at the T.V doesn't help.

2019-10-13T00:41:35+00:00

Jacko

Guest


Repeating history from their winning campaigns in 2011 and 2015

2019-10-13T00:33:41+00:00

Jacko

Guest


Agree...And the ABs wont have forgotton...

2019-10-13T00:30:30+00:00

Jacko

Guest


well soon its going to be too late to predict neutral.....Game is a week away now and you have seen the Samoa match so lets see the prediction!!!

2019-10-13T00:27:31+00:00

Jacko

Guest


Hopefully you meant to say assistant coaches Fionn.....Yes he is a great assistant coach but very few people in history have been unreplaceable.....Many were worried when Byrne left too but the skill doesnt look to have dropped...

2019-10-13T00:10:38+00:00

Jacko

Guest


great analysis Neutral....Up there with the Neutral Welch.......I find it amusing that when teams tour NZ in the june/July test window its all about how weary they are after a tough season yet when the Abs tour north this is never considered.....And lets face it the NH club scene travel in a bus 20k across town to play their rugby where the Sh super sides travel 3 times around the world and stay away from home 3-4 weeks a year.....All is even going in to these tests as Sr players should have had enought time to get thru their Sr travel requirements...

2019-10-13T00:05:18+00:00

Taniwha

Roar Rookie


The Neutral View From Sweden, This maybe your opinion, i don't open my mouth unless i can at least offer something that supports my opinion. I doubt you've spent any time looking over the Irish test because you wouldn't of made such a ridiculous claim ''NZ played pretty well.'' I also noticed you believe the ABs pack can be ''bossed for long periods''. I am not surprised by this comment when considering you thought the ABs played well in Dublin. Besides watching the Irish more than once i have also spoken with someone a little closer to the team than we are. I realise this is only my opinion, but i have learnt not to let my ego cloud my judgement. The article i linked below and a comment by Wayne Smith are a couple more examples why our ''opinions'' differ. In the 2018 Wayne Smith documentary, ''For the Love of the Game'', Smith mentions how they had intentionally fatigued players before the pool games in the 2015 world cup. When you read the following article you will understand the importance of Smiths comment and why your opinion claiming ''NZ played pretty well'' is clouded. https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-did-the-all-blacks-bottle-it-and-shadow-box-against-ireland

2019-10-12T23:57:48+00:00

Jacko

Guest


The ABs will win and I believe win comfortably.....Beating NZ on an EOYT is totally different to beating NZ in a 1/4 at a WC........NH sides fail to travel well as they arnt used to doing it.....irelands best hope is an ABs red card....

2019-10-12T23:43:46+00:00

Josh

Roar Rookie


true all top athletes, comes down to, in my opinion, who do you believe can win 3 knockout matches. going into the wc, i thought nz, sa, eng and ireland. i still think the winner comes out of that 4, with nz vs sa most likely. bolters would be wales, showed they still have that winning habit and know the way to the finish line. other teams have one big day in them but i doubt they have 3.

2019-10-12T23:10:48+00:00

Derm

Roar Guru


Please tell me you're not an Irish fan. There's far too much hope in this article.

2019-10-12T22:14:20+00:00

Kane

Roar Guru


It was a real test match. It's not one they wanted to lose. It counts!

2019-10-12T22:12:51+00:00

Kane

Roar Guru


not followed by a loss in pool play to Japan...

2019-10-12T22:11:53+00:00

Kane

Roar Guru


England beat the Boks by 19 in 2003 and NZ by 20 three weeks later

2019-10-12T22:09:14+00:00

Kane

Roar Guru


You're arguing that the Celtic nations are just as formidable away from home as they are at home? :laughing: They did go on to lose both SA matches where they finished with 15...

2019-10-12T22:03:40+00:00

Kane

Roar Guru


Do you have inside information re the IRFU's plans? So you've got 7 players in the Irish team who are born overseas, some qualify from Irish parents/grandparents, and just 4 All Blacks born overseas, none of which qualified as of 25-26-27 years of age... Jean Kleyn qualified just weeks before the tournament at 26 years of age. Jordi Murphy born in Spain to Irish parents - moved to Ireland at 9 years old. C J Stander born in South Africa was signed as a project player by Munster, qualified by residency the day after the 2015 RWC Final at 25 years of age. Luke McGrath born in Canada moved to Ireland at a young age (unsure how young) Joey Carbery, born in NZ and moved to Ireland at 11 years old. Bundee Aki decided at 24 to take the easy route after SBW announced he was moving to the Chiefs, qualified by residency at 27 years of age.

2019-10-12T21:38:03+00:00

Kane

Roar Guru


Short period? It was two years and two completely different teams. `Ireland have also suffered 4 defeats in 2019 alone.

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