The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

By Nicholas Bishop / Expert

Rarely does a moment pass in modern life without a live sporting event on the telly. There is always something to watch, somewhere in the world. Here in the UK, it could be overnight ping-pong or kabaddi, or Aussie rules at dawn, or a Premier League soccer centrepiece as the daylight begins to ebb away.

There is always something on – at least there was until the onset of the coronavirus pandemic, which now casts its shadow over the activities of every major sporting nation on the face of the planet.

The loss of professional football or soccer is being felt particularly keenly in England. So much so that supporters like Luke Lambourne, who presides over social media operations at League Two club Leyton Orient, decided to take matters into his own hands and replace actual reality with virtual reality.

He created an online esports FIFA tournament, and within the first 48 hours his invitation had gone viral. Now he has a global competition with 128 teams on his hands, ranging from Premier League giants Manchester City, Newcastle United and West Ham to Ajax in the Netherlands, Lokomotiv Moscow in Russia and Adelaide United from Australia.

Top real-life players will be at the controls: “We’ve seen the likes of Crystal Palace putting Andros Townsend forward and Brighton putting Neal Maupay up,” Lambourne told Radio 1 Newsbeat.

“There’s also a whole host of English clubs letting their players take control so it will be good fun.”

Proceeds from the tournament will go to both the World Health Organisation and towards the financial support of the professional clubs in the English league while the live product is quarantined.

The suspension of Super Rugby in the southern hemisphere may not grant the same opportunity for a replacement to trot on to the virtual field, but it does create a mid-term space for reassessment.

All of us can inhale a deep collective breath, and take a look at how key playing issues in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Argentina are unfolding in medias res.

One of the big questions I addressed at the start of the season was the potential combination in the Wallabies back row, and in particular the choice at number 7.

In Australia there has been a strong, if erratic, media lobby for Queensland’s Liam Wright to replace incumbent Michael Hooper, and Wright’s best performance of the Super Rugby season (against the hapless Bulls in Round 7) brought those voices to the fore once again.

(Tracey Nearmy/Getty Images)

This how the primary per-game stats, which I used as markers in the original article, look in 2020, courtesy of the Fox Sports Lab. Firstly, in attack:

Run metres Line-breaks (plus assists) Tackle-busts Passes (plus offloads)
Michael Hooper 39 1 2 7
Liam Wright 21 0.4 1 4.4

Those averages per game are roughly the same, allowing for a slight improvement in Liam Wright’s line-breaking and break-assisted stats.

Here are the averages on defence:

Turnovers Tackles Tackle efficiency Discipline (pens con)
Michael Hooper 0.8 14.2 87% 1.2 (no yellow cards)
Wright 1 12.6 88% 0.7 (plus one yellow card)

There is a modest convergence on defence, with Wright improving his tackle count at the cost of his breakdown contests, and Hooper showing greater effectiveness on-ball.

Both the improving dynamics of Wright’s openside play and the strengths and weaknesses of big back row which the Reds prefer are worth examining. Both aspects have strong underlying implications for the selection of the Wallabies unit later in the year.

The Reds like to pick two powerful ball-carriers at number 8 (Harry Wilson) and number 6 (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto). Wilson averages 12.6 carries per game in Super Rugby 2020 (top of the heap), while Salakaia-Loto is in the top four at his position with 7.4.

Energy is, however, very rarely distributed equally on attack and defence, and the large number of carries means that there is correspondingly less of a contribution on defence. Wilson and Salakaia-Loto have combined for an average of 12.7 tackles per game in 2020, the same number as Wright by himself, and one and a half tackles fewer than Michael Hooper. The piper has to be paid somewhere, sometime.

The first quarter of the game against the Bulls demonstrated this emphasis does not mesh well with an openside who prefers to play as tight to the point of contact as Wright.

Let’s start at the beginning, with the Bulls mounting their first attack of the game from a lineout.

Wright is defending in the line inside Bryce Hegarty and Hamish Stewart, and as flagged up in my original article, he tends to commit automatically to the first breakdown.

What this means for a number 7 is that he is signing up to defend near the ruck for the next phase, and possibly even the phase after that. He cannot operate wider, as a link between the forwards and the backs in that scenario:

By the end of the second phase, Wright is still directly behind the ruck, while a regrouping Chris Feauai-Sautia and Harry Hockings comprehensively mismanage the defence of the area he might be protecting, the zone between the last forward and the first back:

This theme became a constant refrain for the Reds in that first 20 minutes when the Bulls were riding high in the ascendant. It underwrote the South Africans’ first try of the game:

This time it is Hockings’ second-row partner, Angus Blyth, getting himself in a tangle in the transition zone out to the first back Hamish Stewart, with Wright again stuck firmly behind the breakdown:

The Bulls duly converted the opportunity at 0:40 on the highlight reel.

The heavy load on Wilson and Salakaia-Loto in attack means that they often struggle to make the same impact on the other side of the ball. Wilson is unable to make the cover tackle and prevent the offload in this instance; on the next score in the 13th minute (at 0:55 on the reel) Salakaia-Loto found himself defending outside Wright, Hockings and Taniela Tupou as the widest forward.

With your number 7 out of the picture, problems can develop with a big man trying to judge tackling distances accurately in space:

The themes are the same: Wright has made the previous tackle and is getting up behind the ruck and Salakaia-Loto is the last forward connecting with the first back in the wide channel (number 9 Scott Malolua).

Even when the ball is transferred to winger Rosko Speckman on the sideline, this is a scenario which the Reds’ cover defence should be able to manage comfortably:

Salakaia-Loto and Jock Campbell both have the inside channels blanketed, and Hegarty is the insurance policy coming up fast from fullback, but somehow Speckman manages to evade both defenders without a hand being laid upon him to set up the try for Warrick Gelant. That is the definition of a soft try in the modern game.

A long sequence towards the end of the first period showed how effective Liam Wright individually, and the Reds defence as a whole, can be when the right people are in the right places more consistently. This was probably the most important momentum shift in the match:

Initially, Wright makes his automatic error, ducking his head into the maul just as the ball is being released from it. This gives the Bulls a chance that all South African teams relish, the opportunity to run their big forwards at opposition backs in rolling waves of physicality.

Wright recovers from his mistake quickly. He is already back in the game on second phase, slowing the ball down at the breakdown:

Not only does he create a disruption, he crucially gets his head out of the ruck to become the first forward connecting with the Reds’ backline as the phases roll across to the Queensland right:

Here is it Wright folding across field from the inside to defend Speckman, not Lukhan Salakaia-Loto as in the previous example, and that makes all the difference to the integrity of the Queensland defence out wide.

Appropriately, the sequence ended with a penalty after another Wright on-ball attempt in the transition zone, with Marco van Staden unable to find position and clean him out:

Another Bulls score at that juncture in the game might well have been enough to kill the Reds off.

Both Wright and Salakaia-Loto have noticeably improved their attacking play under the tutelage of offensive co-ordinator Jim McKay, as the second half of the game illustrated very well. On the highlight reel, two offloads by Wright sparked Reds tries, the first wide right and out of shot on the previous play, the second very much centre-field off an in-pass by Hegarty, to put Harry Wilson through the gap.

Lukhan Salakaia-Loto likewise played a significant role in both tries, straightening and offloading intelligently in the first instance and rounding the move off in the left corner in the second.

Summary
The Queensland Reds are the enigmas of Super Rugby: right at the top of the table for points and tries scored, near the bottom of it for points and tries conceded – only the Lions, Waratahs and Sunwolves have a worse record in 2020.

It is easy to see why this is the case when the structure and tendencies of the back-row are considered. Brad Thorn likes to pick two attacking players at 8 and 6 in Harry Wilson and Lukhan Salakaia-Loto. They excel with the ball in their hands, but their contribution without it is necessarily limited in value.

Add a number 7 whose instinct is to play tight and stick his head into contact rather than stay out and preserve his connection with the backs, and the Reds frequently give up rather more than they get back.

It is hard to escape the impression that Queensland would be far better served by starting with the back five combination with which they finished the match – Salakaia-Loto in the second row, with Wright and Fraser McReight book-ending Wilson behind him. That is the future of the franchise.

Harry Wilson. (Photo by Tracey Nearmy/Getty Images)

Dave Rennie’s Wallabies certainly cannot entertain the idea of selecting the same kind of back-row as Queensland. If they want a big ball-carrier at number 8 like Isi Naisarani or Harry Wilson, and they want Wright at 7, then Pete Samu can be the only choice at number 6.

If Michael Hooper retains his position on the openside flank (and the stats suggest he should) then Wright, Samu and possibly Lachie McCaffrey and Jack Dempsey will find themselves contesting the sole remaining slot.

There may be no more Jonah Lomu Rugby on the Play Station, or any rugby version of the Leyton Orient FIFA competition played out on a virtual pitch, but there is no harm in a hopeful glance to the future while sporting life is suspended.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2020-03-31T14:32:53+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Stephen Jones finished in the same year that Rhys Priestland made his debut for Wales. Hooky bridged the two eras. If anything, Hooky was a more instinctive 10 than Priestland, and a much more exciting player having started in the Sevens program. Priestland was primarily in competition with Dan Biggar for the 10 job, a competition he lost because of a lack of consistency!

2020-03-31T06:45:26+00:00

Sinclair Whitbourne

Roar Rookie


I used to groan when Hook and Stephen Jones (maybe we could agree that Stevie boyo was stolid?) got the gig ahead of Priestland in the period around 2011. Wales were thrilling to watch with Rhys, but tended towards dull otherwise, I thought. I didn't see, but I gather Rhys lost his touch and became a derided figure with the crowds and moved to England? I am afraid that to me Carter was the Bradman of 10's - miles ahead of anyone else I have seen. Maybe Hook could have become the Sutcliffe or Hobbs, or even Lara/Tendulkar? I work with a lass who is Welsh and speaks the language but she doesn't like rugby - it is just wrong, like an Ozzie who doesn't like vegemite and cricket. At least she also doesn't like soccer. It was similar when Wales picked Jones/Hook over Priestland - a crime against nature, really.

AUTHOR

2020-03-31T06:12:26+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Yes it is an age-old debate SW which has morphed into every generation and rugby country, and the serviceable all-round types nearly always win it!. I would point out that James Hook would laugh at the notion he was 'stolid'. He was definitely in the opposite camp, and that was why he never settled into the role at 10 for Wales (he was also tried at 15, 13 and 12). With the right guidance, he had the ability to become as good as Dan Carter as a 10 (and I don't say that lightly)...

2020-03-31T03:18:46+00:00

Sinclair Whitbourne

Roar Rookie


The Captain of the 1950/51 MCC side to Oz was Freddy Brown, a good county player (and a 'gentleman', of course) and one of the English selectors when asked about the selection commented 'Ginger for pluck, old boy, ginger for pluck.' And so it proved. Gingers cop so much crap that it makes for feisty types, I think.

2020-03-31T01:32:16+00:00

Sinclair Whitbourne

Roar Rookie


Meant to add that in 1994 Knox played a test v NZ at Sydney that any person would be happy to have in their memories. He was good value.

2020-03-31T01:29:42+00:00

Sinclair Whitbourne

Roar Rookie


He played a test in 1985 v Fiji when Lynagh was injured (from memory) but he was always behind Lynagh in the test side - rightly I think. Lynagh as a guy who had played 12 as well as 10 could bring a bit of physicality useful at test level. Lynagh was not as creative and I think he lacked Knox's deft passing touches but he was less easily flustered, had a more complete long kicking game and knew when to keep his mouth closed. Lynagh gave you enough of what Knox did but without the negatives. It's an old issue and still exists. I thought the same of Cooper v Foley. I was a sucker for Cooper but I got why Foley got the gig. Spencer v Mehrtens. Rob Andrew (who in his early times could do more than kick, admittedly) v Barnes, Lolesio v the rest, the enigmatic Priestland v the stolid Hook. Priestland in his pomp was so exciting to watch, I almost forgot he was Welsh (poke the bear).

2020-03-31T01:15:23+00:00

Sinclair Whitbourne

Roar Rookie


Played well for NSW in Super 2015 (aside from a homophobic slur) then returned to SA (better class of BBQ?) but was basically out in 2016 with injury and similar 2017. Not sure where he went after that. I loved watching him and he struck me as the difference between NSW in 2013 and the next two seasons. Oz has struggled to produce that kind of ball carrier, certainly since Finegan and Kefu. Perhaps more so they have struggled to produce more than one option. Guys like Lyons, Elsom brought some of that game. The Brumbies have usually looked for forwards to cart it up and have done so more effectively than other Oz provinces. Hanigan had the body stats but I think he was just pushed through way too early. I thought it was like watching a big puppy - you could see the guy was trying and what he might grow into was apparent. He still might. I do think Oz guys under about 25 (especially in the forwards) may look right physically but they tend to need time to grow into their bodies, to get experience in how to use what they have etc.

AUTHOR

2020-03-30T06:14:24+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


It may be a question of 'who is the best mobile big man in NZ?'. There doesn't appear to be an obvious answer right!?

2020-03-29T10:43:17+00:00

Rhys Bosley

Roar Pro


Dixon had his first tests at the same time as Squire and Savea, Wikipedia attributes that as the reason he didn't go further. Hardly the most credible source, but it does make sense that that would be the reason. I reckon that Hanson was susceptible to a bit of Cheikaesque fascination with "X-Factor" players, who were deficient in other aspects of their role. A. Savea, Sony Bill, DMac, B. Barrett at 15 .... all flashy footballers who nudged out players who had better fundamentals in their preferred position, like your example with Cane in defence. The ABs were so good that they got away with it for years, but got found out in the end.

2020-03-29T07:39:21+00:00

Highlander

Guest


I can see them together, if a monster like Grace or Sotutu can get up the intl curve quickly We lose an awful lot without Kieran Read

AUTHOR

2020-03-29T06:48:16+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Savea and Cane formed a nice partnership before it was abandoned against England, and they should be the basis of the AB back row moving forwards (if Ardie hangs around) :happy:

AUTHOR

2020-03-29T06:46:26+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Well if Savea wants to start again he needs to learn to play 7, because he is too small for a first pick six or eight. That would also rule out Tom Curry (currently starting at 8 for England) and Josh Navidi (Wales' 8) who are both natural open-siders+ who would walk into any team in Australia right now.

2020-03-29T06:46:09+00:00

Oblonsky‘s Other Pun

Roar Guru


Interestingly, I think that was also Samu's best game from memory! I do wonder what it means when it seems that Valetini and Samu both had their least effective games against two of the worst teams they played (Sunwolves and Highlanders), and their best games against two of the stronger teams. Even Miller didn't obviously stand out against the Tahs. I do wonder whether that means they just performed different roles against those different teams?

2020-03-29T06:31:23+00:00

Oblonsky‘s Other Pun

Roar Guru


I've not exactly got the games in hand. But I did just research, which was interesting: Player ratings vs England in 2018 - 6 'quiet' (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12158180) vs Boks in 2018 - 6 (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12125862) vs Boks in 2017 - 6 (https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/97657267/rugby-all-blacks-player-ratings-following-2524-win-over-the-springboks) vs Wallabies in Brisbane 2017 - 6 (https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/all-blacks-player-ratings-who-starred-struggled-in-bledisloe-cup-loss/news-story/228d29360e34424eaed681c9760d4175) vs Wallabies in Dunedin 2017 - 7 (https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/96191984/player-ratings-how-the-all-blacks-fared-in-dunedins-bledisloe-ii-thriller) I'm sure that he had better results given that he played so many tests. But I do think it is pretty interesting that of the first four I looked at they were all 6s and then a 7. Seems to match my memory of him mostly being a role player and not really growing into the role. Not sure what evidence there is for him being a top class 6? The All Blacks coaching staff are fallible. I think they thought he was the best option in 6 after Kaino's decline, but he never really grew into the role or looked comfortable at internationals in my opinion.

2020-03-29T06:21:41+00:00

Oblonsky‘s Other Pun

Roar Guru


Not really, I don't usually rely on public stats. We had the same discussions around kicking stats, where I made the same point. Had the same disagreement with Rhys, who thought that public tackle stats made it seem like Valetini was a poor defender and a worse choice at 6 than Dempsey, Scott-Young and plenty of others. I don't really look at public stats at all, aside from things like 'line out takes'. I agree with Red Rob that they are generally close to useless than useful. I don't think you need to look at every player really closely to see how they were doing. Pretty clear from just watching the All Blacks matches, for example, that that Dan Carter fellow was pretty good, even if one didn't closely analyse him. Not sure the Highlanders did play that well, Peter. They played okay but the Brumbies went in with a shocking game plan to keep everything tight (maybe as a result of Simone's injury or maybe due to the weather). Brumbies played really poorly as a team and it was largely lost by that charge down when there was no pressure on. Otherwise, the Brumbies' loosies have been pretty dominant every game. Including against the Tahs where I thought they really slowed down the Tahs' ball well and ensured we got quick ruck ball. Clearly not only a loose thing, but they're a big part of it.

2020-03-29T05:58:21+00:00

Highlander

Guest


DIxon, was the man for the big occasion too The run to, and in the Super final in 2015 he was huge Three tests and didnt look out of place But like Squire, didnt bring it all the time, maybe that was it

2020-03-29T05:06:03+00:00

Rhys Bosley

Roar Pro


I reckon Squire and Dixon were both players who could have made a difference to the result of the WC semi. Losing Squire couldn't be helped, but I never understood why Dixon didn't get selected by the ABs. I remember him absolutely dominating the Brumbies in one of the quarter finals in Canberra a few years back, especially in the lineout but he was great around the park too. I wonder whether being in the same Super team and position as Squire, unfairly impacted his chances?

2020-03-29T03:53:01+00:00

Highlander

Guest


Liam Squire was a wonderful footballer both sides of ball, however rarely we did we see both during the same 80 mins at test level. Genuine hard man too.

2020-03-29T02:17:40+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


Funny you deride public stats when it suits, I do note that NB himself has not looked at Samu closely but instead is using official stats as a comparison in matchups. You can't have it both ways. Highlanders played a good game against the brumbies and the brumbies were poor and perhaps the stats actually reflect how the game went, after all it is their only loss.

2020-03-29T01:00:16+00:00

Oblonsky‘s Other Pun

Roar Guru


He obviously had some positives, but I think you're failing to acknowledge the issues with playing him at 6. In my opinion, he wasn't really dynamic enough on attack or defence and didn't do enough at the breakdown. Wasn't quick enough between the ears to compensate either. The same issues with Salakaia-Loto at 6. Which is why the All Blacks staff also tried out Frizzell and Fifta at various points.

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