The raw and the cooked: Canberra candidates at number 6

By Nicholas Bishop / Expert

Back in 2009, the great French thinker and anthropologist Claude Levi-Strauss died at the ripe old age of 100. One of his most influential works was a book about mythology entitled The Raw and the Cooked.

Levi-Strauss looked for structures of thinking and behaviour which were repeated from one era to another, and he crossed and re-crossed the academic borders between sociology, anthropology and philosophy in his study of the myths of so-called primitive cultures.

He was a pioneer who helped show that those cultures were not so primitive after all.

“What I tried to show… is that people whom we usually consider as completely subservient to the need of not starving, of continuing able just to subsist in very harsh material conditions, are perfect capable of uninterested thinking; that is, they are moved by a need or a desire to understand the world around them, its nature and their society.”

Far from being raw in their very direct relationship to their surroundings, these makers of early mythology were ‘cooked’ – they used their creation stories to understand the world around them.

It is not so different now, in the world of professional sports. While rugby teams still need the most basic attitude of ‘eat or be eaten’ when they step out on the field, they also need to see a bigger picture – to understand how they are going to play and how their opponents will try to play against them.

The best sides can play in the bloody raw, but they are always fully cooked in the top two inches.

Coaches look for players who have been seasoned by their experiences on the levels below Test rugby – ready to emerge into the overpowering heat of the kitchen without being charred by the new environment.

The two primary candidates for the Wallaby number 6 position from the Australian conference-leading Brumbies, Rob Valetini and Pete Samu, are not quite polar opposites in this respect, but they are not far off.

Pete Samu. (Photo by Mark Metcalfe/Getty Images)

Samu’s career has been steady and progressive: four seasons with the Mitre 10 Cup’s Tasman franchise morphing into 29 Super Rugby appearances for the Crusaders, New Zealand’s academy of rugby, followed in 2019 by a return to Canberra, and an opportunity to broaden his chances in the green and gold.

Partly because of injury, Rob Valetini is at a much earlier point in the curve of his development. Back in 2017, he became only the second age-group player to sign a Super Rugby contract while still a schoolboy, but serious knee damage restricted him to a mere 13 appearances in the 2018 and 2019 seasons. 2020 represented his first consistent experience of professional rugby as a starter.

He has had the opportunity to learn lessons off the field in the new setting:

“Being with the Brumbies has helped me read the game better. In an amateur environment, it used to be just about catching the ball and running. Now there’s a lot more detail to the game and where you have to be,” Valetini told the Canberra Times back in 2017.

Rob Valetini is still raw – only 21 years old, but already a hefty 113 kilos and 6’4. Pete Samu is 28 and pretty well cooked, but gives up over ten kilos to Valetini on the scales while conceding three inches in height.

Both players have some weaknesses in defence, but for the purposes of this article we will compare their contribution when the Brumbies have possession of the ball.

Samu has been starting at number 8 for the men from Canberra, and his attacking stats compare favourably with the two leading Wallabies contenders – Isi Naisarani and Harry Wilson:

Runs per game Average run metres Metres per run Breaks & busts per game Errors & Turnovers
Isi Naisarani 12.3 75 6.1 4.1 1
Harry Wilson 12.6 69 5.5 2.5 2.2
Pete Samu 4.5 40 8.9 3 1

Now let’s take a look at Valetini’s attacking stats compared to those of two other young blindside flankers in the Australian conference:

Runs per game Run metres Metres per run Breaks & busts Lineout own ball Lineout steals
Lukhan Salakaia-Loto 7.4 39 5.3 2.3 2.6 0.3
Lachie Swinton 7.3 42 5.7 1 2.3 0.2
Rob Valetini 7 46 6.6 2.6 0.3 0

The difference in back-row philosophies is immediately apparent. At number 8, both Wilson and Naisarani are heavy-duty workhorses on primary phases, carrying almost three times more than Samu per game. Samu’s work is done further out, off the second or third pass, and that accounts for his much higher average metres per carry.

The Reds will go heavy and tight on the first two carries with Wilson and Salakaia-Loto punching the holes close in. The Brumbies will shift Valetini inside to fulfil the Salakaia-Loto or Swinton role, but the first-phase carry will need to be made by a back (typically Tevita Kuridrani or Solomone Kata) instead of Samu.

The build-up to the Brumbies’ first try of the game against the Chiefs in Round 4 of Super Rugby provided a model example:

Kata cuts up underneath Sam Cane on the first phase, then Valetini wraps around to smash Chiefs number 12 Alex Nankivell off the map on the following play. The Brumbies used their gain-line advantage to score on the very next phase:

Rob Valetini likes to stay high and use his power to bump off the first tackler:

But not all of Valetini’s carries work out as well. Against the Waratahs in Round 7, he found a worthy opponent in Michel Hooper:

Hooper has the strength to stick at the point of contact and hold Valetini up above ground for over five seconds. That kills the momentum of the lineout move stone dead in the first example.

Samu works best in space or at the end of the second pass. He scored two tries against the Chiefs, the first from a scrum where the set-piece had promoted on the left and stripped down the defence to the Chiefs number 9; the second on the end of the second pass from Noah Lolesio, where he was able to use his power and acceleration to beat a tight forward on the line and shrug off two other backs in cover:

Samu reveals his extra experience in the little details of the game – in re-alignment while waiting for the pass:

Where Valetini overruns the pass and is never a serious receiving option, Samu takes a shuffle step back to ensure he draws the eyes of the inside defence and preserves a little more space outside for Tevita Kuridrani:

While Valetini can only drop back and flop on top of the ruck at the end of the first play, Pete Samu is very much alive and on his feet at the end of the second. These little details matter.

Likewise, at the breakdown:

Both players are slightly offline and need to adjust their angle into the tackle zone, but Samu recognises the urgency of the situation far more quickly than Valetini, so his cleanout is the more successful of the two.

Perhaps it is own-ball lineout which exhibits the difference between the two players most clearly. Rob Valetini is clearly the better athlete, able to hang in the air and take the ball imperiously at the tail:

However, he also makes mental errors: a loose tap destroying the rhythm of a set-piece attack; or a late back-lift at a critical position in the opponent’s red zone:

At the key moment, the Waratah lifter (Harry Johnson-Holmes) is at full extension, while Valetini still has bent arms, despite the Brumbies having the throw:

Pete Samu does not have Valetini’s range and only offers a front-jumping alternative, but he is also the go-to lifter in the Brumbies’ lineout scheme:

Whenever you see a forward standing slightly out of the line like this, it means he is one of the most integral pieces of the puzzle, able to lift for a receiver both fore or aft:

Summary
At 6’4 and 113 kilos or more, Rob Valetini has magnificent physical tools for the job of a modern number 6. By the time of the 2023 World Cup, he may very well be the real deal, but for now he is raw, very raw.

You can have all of the tools that you need, but until there is a real understanding of how the game is played at the top level, those attributes will be inconsistently applied. You will not be fully ‘cooked’.

The rawness shows up in the little details which Valetini knows he has yet to master. It comes to light in the small adjustments – entry lines into cleanout, the timing of a lift at the lineout, the change of body height into a tackle, the realignment needed to provide a convincing decoy in attack.

It is these little details which are now a part of Pete Samu’s armoury at 28 years of age. If the time for Test match football is ever to arrive for him, it must arrive now.

Lachie McCaffrey, Jack Dempsey and Liam Wright may all have something to say in the number 6 debate, too. In time, maybe Lachie Swinton and Pat Tafa will join them.

But for Dave Rennie it’s all about the now, separating the raw from the cooked, and finding out who is really ready to play Test footy for Australia.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2020-04-06T06:33:45+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Locked down on the top of a big hill with family and beagle for company. No social distancing or limited exercise for her!

2020-04-06T02:01:55+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


Youre refering to my comment re the Qld players? Oh I just meant they are very raw. All is well Mr.Nick. Locked down in KL. How are things with you?

2020-04-04T22:46:27+00:00

The Late News

Roar Rookie


Cheers mate. Stay sane!

2020-04-04T22:31:30+00:00

Sinclair Whitbourne

Roar Rookie


Sharpe, like Pocock, Horwill deserved to be in better sides. Thanks for the good wishes, I am an anti-social sod at the best of times and my area of the law is doing fine, so I am ok. Awful situation though. Fight the good fight LN, stay anti-social and beat the beastly bug!

2020-04-04T10:35:45+00:00

soapit

Roar Guru


Nonsense. I’ll let the evidence talk from here champ. Catch ya

AUTHOR

2020-04-04T09:35:05+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Thanks, at least, for trying to provide some support for your assertions Soap… However I feel it is probably best to draw a charitable veil over the substance of the “evidence” itself! :laughing:

2020-04-04T05:47:29+00:00

soapit

Roar Guru


clip 1 he doesnt even manage to keep a hold of him

2020-04-04T00:24:26+00:00

soapit

Roar Guru


a new day and found some time to find a couple of clips. verifiable and accurate as always. and im not even taking anyones money. twickenham 2014 two instances https://youtu.be/kCDXISY0BNc?t=177 not a front on tackle but for me i ideally dont want my forwards being dragged 5m over the line. hooper hesitates and hangs on the inside man too long, and then cant knock the man over from the side. a more powerful hit, (even if it didnt knock him over), would have likely made the difference. https://youtu.be/kCDXISY0BNc?t=306 front on tackle. hooper learns from the earlier effort and tries to go high (he needs to) but cant make a dent and the try is scored straight through him. interesting how you brought up your profession. funnily enough those of us who pursued careers in other areas such as science and engineering are, seemingly, at least as capable of accurate recollection and assessment as those who pursued a career in rugby research and writing. a bit of humility and/or perspective wouldnt go astray next article maybe you can provide all those examples you’re expecting to find of him dominating collisions against big forwards and i’ll be happy to have a look at your opinion on this again.

2020-04-03T14:38:33+00:00

soapit

Roar Guru


Nup. No interest sorry. Why don't you talk about something else

AUTHOR

2020-04-03T13:08:59+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Nah, he doesn't need me, his play promotes itself...

2020-04-03T11:43:43+00:00

soapit

Roar Guru


does michael hooper owe you $5?

AUTHOR

2020-04-03T11:40:00+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Yes if England were going to go with say Lawes at 6, I’d would like to see Launch and Itoje in the row ahead of them…

AUTHOR

2020-04-03T11:39:06+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


No need. I make my points writing public articles under my own real name with proper analytical support! :thumbup:

AUTHOR

2020-04-03T11:37:50+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Are you Michael Hooper?? I claim my $5 :laughing:

2020-04-03T11:10:15+00:00

soapit

Roar Guru


7 mainly but backrow and somtimes centre played every position but the halves, could never convince anyone to give me a go at that

2020-04-03T11:09:22+00:00

Oblonsky‘s Other Pun

Roar Guru


I reckon Launchbury is a better lock than Lawes from what I’ve seen.

2020-04-03T11:09:10+00:00

soapit

Roar Guru


have another stab at it mate.

AUTHOR

2020-04-03T11:03:05+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


England no longer select for set-piece dominance, or even play for it as they did at the start of the Eddie era with Dan Cole playing THP. Eddie said after the final that he regretted not picking Joe Marler, England’s best scrum technician, against the Boks… And currently they don’t have any brutes better than Itoje/Lawes in the row either! At least I can’t think of any. I think you underestimate the Welsh B/R, but then I prob know them a lot better than you! Navidi, Tipuric and Ellis Jenkins are all easily in the top bracket you mention. Slot Faletau into between any two of those and you have a world class unit.

AUTHOR

2020-04-03T10:57:04+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Well maybe they are looking for reasons why they lost the WC, I don't know. Personally, I never rated the guy that highly.

AUTHOR

2020-04-03T10:55:38+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


What part of "Hooper has the strength to stick at the point of contact and hold Valetini up above ground for over five seconds." makes any mention of a front-on tackle? Figment of your imagination mate :laughing:

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