Where is Collingwood's strategy?

By Les Zig / Roar Guru

While we’re only three games into the season, I’m struggling to understand Collingwood’s off-field strategy.
Last season, they carried out their much-publicised list rejuvenation.

Traded out were Adam Treloar (173 games), Tom Phillips (89 games), and Jaidyn Stephenson (54 games).

That was on top of the retirements of Travis Varcoe (230 games), Dayne Beams (177 games), Ben Reid (152 games), and Tom Langdon (89 games), and the delisting of Matthew Scharenberg (41 games), Tim Broomhead (37 games), and Rupert Wills (23 games).

That’s a lot of experience to go out of one list.

Coming in were draftees Oliver Henry (pick 17), Finlay Macrae (pick 19), Reef McInnes (pick 23), Caleb Poulter (pick 30), Liam McMahon (pick 31), Beau McCreery (pick 44), and rookies Jack Ginnivan and Isaac Chugg.

On the face of it, it seemed an audacious draft harvest that could revitalise the club following three successive seasons they’ve fallen ingloriously short.

But when you break down the list, you get this:

• 100+ games (13): Scott Pendlebury, Steele Sidebottom, Chris Mayne, Jeremy Howe, Jordan Roughead, Levi Greenwood, Jack Crisp, Taylor Adams, Brodie Grundy, Will Hoskin-Elliott, Jamie Elliott, Brayden Maynard, and Josh Thomas
• 50 – 99 games (5): Jordan de Goey, Darcy Moore, Mason Cox, Brody Mihocek, and Callum Brown.
• 20 – 50 games (4): Josh Daicos, Jack Madgen, Brayden Sier, and John Noble
• 1 – 20 games (8): Isaac Quaynor, Darcy Cameron, Tyler Brown, Trey Ruscoe, Nathan Murphy, Mark Keane, Will Kelly, and Max Lynch
• 0 games (12): Trent Bianco, Isaac Chugg, Jack Ginnivan, Oliver Henry, Finlay Macrae, Beau McCreery, Reef McInnes, Liam McMahon, Caleb Poulter, Jay Rantall, Anton Tohill and Tom Wilson.

The players with more than 100 games would be considered entrenched and certain starters. These are the players you’d expect to produce something just about every week.

But of these thirteen players, Mayne and Greenwood are now borderline. Will Hoskin-Elliott and Josh Thomas have serially underperformed in the last two years, and in a logical world that their positions would be considered vulnerable.

So we have nine experienced players (mostly) warranting their positions.

The players with 50 – 99 games should just be entering their primes.

Moore is proven elite. As an explosive forward, de Goey is a scary proposition, but as a midfielder he has struggled for consistency.

Jordan De Goey of the Magpies (Photo by Quinn Rooney/Getty Images)

Mihocek is a workhorse but struggles due to Collingwood’s forward set-up. Cox’s productivity is inconsistent, but he remains the sole key forward prospect. Callum Brown would seem to have the coach’s favour and is given every opportunity but, to date, is still trying to find himself at this level.

This increases the figure of meaningful productivity to 11 – 13, depending where de Goey is played and Cox’s form, which can vary from week to week.

Of the four players with 20 – 50 games, Josh Daicos and John Noble are worthwhile but (this year) spasmodic contributors. Both Sier and Madgen have shown glimpses of potential but are yet to prove themselves.

From the eight players with 1 – 20 games, only Isaac Quaynor has shown that he can already contribute meaningfully. He’s the equivalent of a top draft pick who’s had an immediate impact. While the club is pumping games into Tyler Brown, he’s another who’s struggling.

So that’s just three players from these groupings with what you’d consider bankable input. This is not to disparage any players or to say they won’t make it in the AFL. Tyler Brown might hit 50 games and skyrocket in terms of performances, as so many young players have done before him. But, right now, the equations are different.

If all things were equal, you’d have 14 – 16 players up to senior AFL football, although a number of these players are inconsistent. The remaining positions are speculative.

Compare that to Collingwood’s 2010 flag year, where the only players who might’ve been considered speculative were Jarryd Blair and Brent Macaffer. Or somebody like Richmond, a strong side who can blood young talent and provide them plenty of support and nurturing.

In these cases, inexperienced players have functioned well within a strong framework with a purposeful gameplan.

They’re systems that have helped these players function at the highest level.

The other factor to consider are injuries: Jamie Elliott is now out with a broken leg, and will likely miss the season. So we go from 14–16 to 13–15. Is it likely Collingwood will avoid further injuries? A decade of evidence would suggest not.

That exposes a soft underbelly of inexperienced and/or unproven players – one/third of the team who are unlikely to consistently contribute meaningfully, and twenty players on the list who’ve played less than 20 games, with half of those yet to debut.

This leaves the burden to too few, which highlights that 2021 is effectively a developmental year for Collingwood. Anybody who postulated top-four finishes was being extremely optimistic that so many serial underperformers and young players could form a resilient core as the bedrock of Collingwood’s season.

With Scott Pendlebury 33, Chris Mayne and Levi Greenwood 32, and Jeremy Howe, Jordan Roughead, Steele Sidebottom, and Mason Cox all 30, that’s an ageing top end which delineates the importance of cultivating the next generation.

Come Round 1 against the Bulldogs, Collingwood debuted Oliver Henry and selected Trey Ruscoe. Just one round later against Carlton, Steele Sidebottom returned from injury, which saw Henry dropped and Ruscoe relegated to the injury sub.

Steele Sidebottom (Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos)

Jamie Elliott’s unfortunate broken leg opened a spot. Many would’ve thought coach Nathan Buckley might opt for Henry, Finlay Macrae, or Beau McCreery. McCreery was named the injury sub, while Chris Mayne filled the vacancy.

During the game against Brisbane, Mayne suffered a blow to the head. Given his recent history with concussion, it would’ve seemed logical to activate McCreery. Nope. Mayne sat unused on the bench, and McCreery exiled as the sub.

As an aside, I am going to throw in the use of Josh Daicos: from a breakout season in 2020 as an exciting and creative winger to a defensive forward in 2021. This is a side that has lost midfielders (Treloar, Phillips, and Beams), as well as a midfield prospect (Stephenson), so why are they depleting their midfield contingent of the one thing that was unquestionably working last year? It’s a baffling decision.

And here’s the crux of Collingwood’s problem: why are they persevering with known quantities? It’s fine if these players are producing, but they’re not. They are known quantities. What is Nathan Buckley and his coaching staff expecting from the likes of Josh Thomas or Will Hoskin-Elliott that they haven’t seen the last two years?

The club last year sold to the public the claim they wanted to revitalise the list. Comparisons were made to Port Adelaide, who (it was said) did something similar, and shot up the ladder. Yet where have Collingwood employed their youth? Or even selection criteria that would reward effort, rather than incumbents?

An argument might be that the youth are being spared because they’re lacking conditioning. In their wisdom, the AFL has decided to start the VFL season on 16th April – almost one month after the AFL season began on 18th March. God forbid the feeder competition start at the same time (although, presumably this has happened because the AFLW runs concurrent to the opening of the AFL season).

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Still, draftees have debuted in the seniors and held their position throughout the season, and surely continuity would help with a young player’s acclimation.

Surely rewarding form with selection, and punishing a continual lack of form by being dropped, is the criteria that’s meant to be established within any sporting organisation.

So what exactly is Collingwood’s strategy?

From the outside looking in, surely Collingwood should be investing in their future, because right now, we’re watching Collingwood’s past, and that’s unequivocally been proven to be not good enough.

The Crowd Says:

2021-04-12T02:24:26+00:00

Anarchist Angler

Guest


it's 2004 - 2005 all over again. Overburden of good ordinaries and 50/50's and the result will be the same as those years. What turned things around? The favourites all got injured and the coaching panel was FORCED to bring young players in en masse and it just turned out to be that they were instantly more than good ordinaries. Why has collingwood had over a 100 year history of not only praising its champions but talking up its 2 quarter wonders and good ordinaries as super stars as well?

2021-04-07T01:59:30+00:00

Billy

Guest


In 2018, DeGoey, Thomas, Will Hoskin Elliot, Stephenson all kicked about 40 goals. Mihocek came in half way through the season and averaged 2 goals a game. So what you stated is factually incorrect

2021-04-06T02:04:37+00:00

Greg

Roar Rookie


It is said that great attacks start with defence. What if there is a blunt effort in attack? It's not about individual players, it's about the system. Refining talent for a purpose. The purpose is to score. We aren't. Playing two quarters and then hoping to last out the game? Who the hell thought of that?

2021-04-06T00:23:39+00:00

Peter

Guest


Defending the indefensible by criticising the messenger.

2021-04-06T00:19:59+00:00

Peter

Guest


It looks to me that Collingwood's off-field list management strategy aligns closely to its on-field gameday strategy. Make it up as you go along and hope everyone continues to drink the Kool-Aid. Do they conduct close match drills at training? Based on Collingwood's appalling close match record, seemingly this is not done. Do they have a Plan A let alone a Plan B? The game plan seems to be get the ball and kick it up the ground in hope. Ball movement is glacial. It's very easy to criticise Collingwood's forwards but it's noticeable that no forward has thrived in Buckley's ten year reign of horrors. The forward set up is failing yet they persist with it.

2021-04-05T08:12:36+00:00

Maxy

Roar Rookie


also to frightened to debate it with with people who reply to HIS post,I call it propaganda

2021-04-05T05:49:28+00:00

Flagpies

Roar Rookie


Yay! And people wonder why these articles keep coming. Well if Colllingwood continue to dish up rubbish like last years trade season then it's a no brainer.

2021-04-05T01:38:11+00:00

Trully

Guest


You haven't mentioned salary cap. Collingwood went overs for the long term with their cap in an attempt to buy a flag ... and came within a kick of having their punt pay off. Today's conversation would be very different if Dom Sheed had missed that goal or if Richmond had not suddenly become such a powerhouse. With their salaries unsustainable, Collingwood were forced to make cuts to stay under the cap. To me the big question is did they cut wisely? The answer is certainly looking like a no.

2021-04-05T00:44:34+00:00

FabPhil

Roar Rookie


Not too flustered about the loss to Brisbane (just a kick in it after all) but more so, in the way they lost. The game's visibly opened up this year and I think Collingwood should start biting the bullet and try going for the kill when and if they can. It won't always work but you'd rather lose attacking than defending. Not exactly sure what to make of Buckley this year. If, as some say, he's already made up his mind to leave at this year's end, he should announce it soon and play an attacking game blooding as many youngsters as he can. But the thing is the Pies are a tease. They're an upper mid-tier team that have contested in September over the past three years, so in a way, I can understand the conservative matchday approach. Bucks perhaps wants to stick to that strategy that has brought relative success and hope for the best this year. I still expect him to tweak his strategy over the next two weeks. As for Treloar, Stephenson and co, they've moved on and so have the club. I think we should do, too.

2021-04-05T00:09:45+00:00

DW42

Roar Rookie


Collingwood are doing exactly what we should doing at the moment and that’s picking our best 22 to try to win as many games as possible. There is always one eye on the future and we have blooded 7 players in our last 21 games. It is not unusual to have a few of your most experienced players no longer walk up starts, like Mayne & Greenwood, who are now depth and there to provide selection integrity. I would bracket players, under 25 games (raw), 25 - 70 games (developing) the rest are either in their prime (Adams, DeGoey, Elliott, Grundy, Howe, Maynard, Mihocek, Moore, Pendlebury, Roughead, Sidebottom) or in decline (Mayne, Greenwood, WHE, Thomas). I don’t understand any criticism of Mihocek, other than having a poor game, as he is a workhorse and does everything you could expect of him, for mine he is our second most valuable and important player. While playing Daicos up forward may not be the best for him, I’m content that it is what’s best for the team right now & that’s footy, team needs come first. Kelly & Keane should soon become regulars & the likes of Macrae, McCreery, McMahon & co. will be given a taste when form and opportunity arises. For mine, to be giving up on the present in favour of development is the soft option and antiquated thinking, unless it’s apparent that you have bottomed out and have no other option.

2021-04-04T23:57:52+00:00

Mooty

Roar Rookie


According to your numbers Les, Collingwood have 22 players that have played 20 plus games. In Collingwood speak that makes them all “stars or champions”, therefore that should make Collingwood unbeatable. Doesn’t say much for Buckley as a coach

2021-04-04T23:31:02+00:00

Charlie Keegan

Roar Guru


Nah pies bashing is definitely in vogue at the moment. Their treatment of established stars in the last trade period has been outrageous and egregious. They failed in their primary duty which is the welfare of players on their list and so far not enough heads have rolled.

2021-04-04T23:18:08+00:00

JPF555

Roar Rookie


As I have stated a couple of times already “The only certainty about Collingwood’s future is more negative articles by this author. " I'm not sure the author even bothers to watch the games closely. Complains about Henry being dropped and Ruscoe being relegated to being the sub for Round 2. Henry had 4 possessions in RD 1 and Ruscoe had 3. Far from sitting "unused on the bench" as the author claims, Mayne played out the game on Friday. Is the author even aware that some of the draftees have had interrupted preseasons following a year without football? Or that the VFL hasn't even started yet? The Pies ran one of the premiership contenders to a one point loss after making several big mistakes in the last quarter. Plenty to work on but plenty to like as well. Time for the author to find a new hobby. The Pies bashing is getting boring.

2021-04-04T23:06:39+00:00

Charlie Keegan

Roar Guru


I think bucks is panicking somewhat. Collingwood need to regenerate but doing so would result in a likely drop down the ladder but a drop down the ladder means it’s almost certain that bucks is given his marching orders.

2021-04-04T22:49:33+00:00

george sammut

Guest


sier hoskin elliot thomas and the older brown would not get a game with any other club to many old players in the club should all be dropped and bring in all the younger players lets face it collingwood have no hope of getting in the finals

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