England rugby at the crossroads: Which way will Eddie Jones turn (Part 1)?

By Nicholas Bishop / Expert

Australia have just won the men’s Ashes by four Tests to zip. By the standards of some recent, far more momentous Ashes series, they hardly had to break a sweat to do it. If only England’s rugby team would be so compliant this July.

With the Red Rose still coached by a pugnacious Australian in Eddie Jones, it ain’t gonna happen. Eddie will be beadily eyeing his perfect winning record against the Wallabies, with every intention of extending 8-0 since his takeover in 2016, to 11-0 by the end of July.

Nonetheless, there are genuine grounds for hope for those adorned in green-and-gold, because England are at a crossroads. Jones has reached perhaps the single most important fork in the road since he moved back to the UK. A 93 per cent winning record against the top eight rugby nations over his first couple of seasons has dwindled to 58 per cent since 2018.

The media pressure on his playing (and coaching) selections in the UK has reached a correspondingly high watermark.

At no time in his career with England has the choice between playing styles at club level been so stark and clear-cut. There are teams founded on relentless defence and kicking (Leicester and Saracens), the quick-strike attacking artists (Harlequins and Bristol) and possession-based grinders like Exeter and London Irish.

It has created a plethora of decisions that need to be made in some key spots in the back-row of the scrum, and in the midfield behind them.

Who will play in the key playmaking positions? Only two of George Ford, Owen Farrell, Marcus Smith and Henry Slade can be shoehorned into the number 10 and number 12 (or, in Slade’s case, number 13) jerseys.

How does Eddie pick his starting back-row from the likes of Tom Curry, Sam Underhill, Alfie Barbeary, Alex Dombrandt, Sam Simmonds and Billy Vunipola? Over the next couple of weeks, I will take a look at some of the selection issues.

In this article, I will examine the forwards.

The area of least controversy is the second row, where two 2020 Lions in South Africa, Maro Itoje and Jonny Hill, are clear-cut first choices. Australia will need Rory Arnold back from France, and there are only two weeks separating the final of the Top 14 on 25 June and the first Test on 9 July.

The plot begins to thicken in the front and back rows of the scrum, to the point where it becomes darkly Shakespearean in the selection at number 8. There will be hidden media knives glinting behind every arras when Eddie’s choice in that position becomes evident.

It is a concern – and perhaps, an echo of Eddie Jones’ history with Australia circa 2005 – that England best pure scrummaging choices at prop remain a 31 year-old in Joe Marler at loose-head, and 34 year-old Dan Cole on the other side. Both have been anchoring the England scrum for the better part of a decade now, and it is still hard to find a better pair of set-piece bookends in the English Premiership.

One prop who may be towed in on the tide of the magical Marler renaissance is his Harlequins team-mate Will Collier. Kyle Sinckler will be first choice tight-head, but Collier has been one of the two most effective English-qualified scrummaging No.3s in the league. Harlequins have the best win percentage on own ball in the Premiership at 96 per cent, and they have the best penalty differential at the set-piece (+17).

The recent European Champions Cup tie against Cardiff illustrated Will Collier’s quality on both sides of the feed:

Collier is opposite a current Wales international in the shape of Rhys Carré, and he is giving away three inches and over 15 kilos. Collier’s point of difference is his speed into ideal body-shape after ‘set’. His back is flat and aligned to transmit power from behind immediately, and when the loose-head tries to work around him he can drill the gap.

The comparison was even more brutal on Cardiff’s own feed:

The success of Marler and Collier may yet pull Jack Walker into the touring squad as a third hooker behind Jamie George and Luke Cowan-Dickie.

The knives really come out when talk shifts to the pivotal number 8 spot. Warren Gatland ignored the claims of the usual suspects and picked Sam Simmonds ahead of any other English number 8 for the 2020 British & Irish Lions, but Simmonds was only ranked third in the pecking order, behind Tom Curry and Alex Dombrandt, for the end of year internationals in 2021.

The main claimants to the jersey ahead of the 2022 Six Nations appear to be Curry, Dombrandt and a resurgent Billy Vunipola. Here are the raw stats for the three from the English Premiership – first, on attack:

Player Minutes played Carry interval Metres per carry Decisive outcomes* Lineouts won
Alex Dombrandt 715 9.5 6.1 +21 10
Tom Curry 286 8.2 5.1 +4 0
Billy Vunipola 716 6.1 5.5 +26 0

*Decisive outcomes include clean breaks, tackle busts and effective offloads.

On defence, the picture looks like this:

Player Minutes played Tackle interval’ Breakdown steals Ruck attendance interval’
Alex Dombrandt 715 8.5 8 3.2
Tom Curry 286 6.0 (6*) 7 2.4
Billy Vunipola 716 6.9 (9*) 2 4.2

* Asterisked numbers represent dominant tackles.

We know that Vunipola is a heavy-duty ball-carrier who will produce plenty of positive yardage, and that Tom Curry is an intense competitor on defence. The wild card is Harlequins’ Dombrandt, who makes more profound impacts than the other two but has far fewer overall involvements.

Jones is still intent on developing Curry as the number 8 he believes is there in embryo. The first time Eddie announced he was picking Curry at the spot was on the eve the second game of the 2020 Six Nations against Scotland.

“I think Tom can be a [All Black] Rodney So’oialo-type player – a mobile, hard-running eight who has ball skills,” said Jones.

“We can’t find another Billy so we won’t go down that track. Instead, we’ll find a different sort of player…

“In the World Cup final, we weren’t good in that [power carry] area and we weren’t good there against France. It’s an area we need to improve in.

“We need to find a way to get some more power because you’ve got to carry through bodies. We’ve got to find a way to have more variety.”

Ahead of the November tour games in 2021, he was singing very much from the same hymn-sheet.

“With the back-row we have got, initially with Courtney, a pretty strong ball runner, and Underhill is strong over the ball and will give Tom a chance to mix his game between running and linking and his defensive work. He has got the ability to do that,” Jones said.

“There is two players in the world that are similar in that aspect. It is him and Ardie Savea. That are both outstanding natural sevens but have got the capacity to be outstanding eight’s because they have the ability to carry the ball, to link and still do the defensive work.”

That theory depends heavily on Curry improving his output with ball in hand, and there has been some evidence of that development. Here is Curry playing at first receiver for his club Sale:

It is a run full of genuine footballing nuance. Curry angles towards the man in front of him before cutting out towards the defender on the end of the line. It is like a very precise pass route run by a wide receiver in American Football, and both defenders are drawn towards Curry, freeing up the players outside him.

The problem lies in Curry’s lack of carrying power. Like it or not, he is no Ardie Savea – let alone Billy Vunipola – when there is no choice but hard contact:

Most the English media clamour has been in support of Dombrandt’s claims to the number 8 jersey. The Quins back-rower has a rare knack of scenting and creating attacking opportunity. But he is also a giant centre in a 6’4, 120 kilo body and is at his best playing with the backs. Most of the hard yards carries are left to the other members of Quins’ back row (typically James Chisholm and Jack Kenningham at full strength).

Perhaps Dombrandt’s greatest USP is his uncanny rapport with Marcus Smith at number 10:

Whether passing or kicking, Dombrandt is often on the end of Smith most telling contributions. Carries by the other Quins forwards are regularly designed to preserve Dombrandt as an in-pass option for Smith:

The idea is to link Dombrandt with the other Quins’ backs, in the same kind of role Eddie Jones envisages on attack for Tom Curry:

In the first instance, Marcus Smith is inserted in between the side-line ruck and Dombrandt in order to flush him into space. In the second example, The Quins number 13 Joe Marchant has been shifted out to the left wing in order to accommodate Dombrandt in the centres from an attacking lineout, and only comes into view at the very end of the score by Louis Lynagh.

Summary
There is no question Jones is under more scrutiny now from the English rugby media than at any other time in his career as head coach of England. Although it is still positive, his winning percentage against the top-tier nations has declined steadily after a sensational Henry or Hansen-like 90-plus per cent start in 2016 and 2017.

At club level, the opportunity to play a different sort of game has emerged with the success of Harlequins in the Premiership. The spartan diet of kicking and defence, which has been England’s staple in recent seasons, no longer seems obligatory.

There is growing pressure to include the talents of players like Marcus Smith and Alex Dombrandt in the starting XV, and that pressure (at number 10) will only sharpen when the likes of Owen Farrell return to full fitness. At number 8, Dombrandt still has a lot of work to do to overhaul Tom Curry and Billy Vunipola as a run-on prospect.

There will be an opportunity for the Wallabies to ask searching questions about what kind of playing philosophy really underpins Eddie’s England, and in next week’s article, I’ll take a look at some of the options in the back-line.

The Crowd Says:

2022-03-12T05:23:33+00:00

Joe King

Roar Rookie


Yes, you're comparing them during a time that their TWI is rating high.

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2022-01-21T06:41:35+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Without Billy V or Nathan Hughes it is prob the best they have, unless they take a punt on Barbeary...

2022-01-21T02:20:04+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


https://fb.watch/aFQn-8gvz-/ Hi Nick, some light relief, in case you missed it.

2022-01-21T00:11:59+00:00

Tim J

Roar Rookie


I agree Fox, once they have game time together it could get exciting for Blues fans.

2022-01-20T23:19:34+00:00

numpty

Roar Rookie


He was strong/effective in the BIL series, but I still see him as that 2nd rower type carrier that may get an arm free in the tackle but isn't that wrecking ball type like Vunipola, valetini, Skelton or furlong that take 2-4 blokes to get them down at times. Seems a bit lanky to have that real power and leg drive the above have. No doubt a quality player all the same though and mobile for such a tall bloke. He would be a great foil to valetini and hooper actually in a WB backrow.

2022-01-20T22:39:50+00:00

numpty

Roar Rookie


Smith, Dombrandt and Lynagh off the bench with 25 to go would make any team's heart rate go up.

2022-01-20T19:48:44+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Agree 100%

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2022-01-20T19:17:45+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


:laughing: :shocked:

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2022-01-20T19:17:21+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


That is a truly wonderful story. Wonderful that is, to see someone forget so completely what he was in one life, to become something new in another. Thank you. :thumbup:

2022-01-20T14:05:58+00:00

Fox

Roar Guru


Yes I think he could be the king of the league converts at 12 - I mean with Akira outside him and Barrett inside - god help opposition D's

2022-01-20T13:54:08+00:00

Fox

Roar Guru


Yes he does have a bit Akira about him for sure – strong in the lineout like Akira also and links with the backs well like Akira . As for your last sentence – aint that the truth! But drawing a wider scope – hard to adapt or own a position when you are being shifted in and out of positions all the time IMO – a bit of a blight in the code for me…It seems to be everyone bar the Hooker – 9 and 10 and one only specialist winger – these days, has to be able to play at least two positions as if every other player has to be developed into a bench option…Not convinced it is the best thing for the starting 15 however and especially in the D. The AB’s need to decide who their 1st choice back 3 – back row and 12 and 13 are this year, not to mention hooker and the faster the better but they are not alone globally. JS as a selector and now performance coach as well for the AB’s may help sort this out hopefully Did you see Owen Franks has returned to Super Rugby playing for the Hurricanes? Supposed to be in good shape they are saying…we shall see…the best prop NZ has produced in the last decade IMO and one of the finest in the world during that time…I always liked JM for England as well, both genuine world class dark arts specialists…not sure if he has made himself available for AB selection but interesting timing.

2022-01-20T13:36:25+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Nick, have you seen this? https://www.theguardian.com/sport/behind-the-lines/2022/jan/20/joe-van-niekerk-rugby-retreat-costa-rica-jungle

2022-01-20T13:35:17+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Definitely. Difficult persona but all the talent and athletic stats. I would’ve started him 100 times

2022-01-20T13:34:18+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


And had to rehab a couple of big injuries

2022-01-20T13:33:19+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Thank heavens

2022-01-20T12:52:37+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


#tryingtokeepup

2022-01-20T12:39:40+00:00

Francisco Roldan

Roar Rookie


I share your reading Nick...! All systems tend to imbalance, always. Greetings

2022-01-20T11:51:39+00:00

Tim J

Roar Rookie


Bugger Nick! You did not fall for it :silly: I will to try harder next time :shocked: Seriously though Jamie should get game time during the 6 Nations. I can see him producing form but he needs the game time. No one has spoken about Wales, how are the players recovering from injuries? If most players are back, I would not write them off!

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2022-01-20T11:46:23+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Far more retch-worthy is EPR ignoring such blatant flouting of their own rules for so long. They helped create them, after all. And the loudest complaints have come from Exeter (rightly so), who would have won a bunch of silverware if Sarries had not overspent the cap.

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2022-01-20T11:38:52+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Jamie George, who is the only one of the group in the squad.

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