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Hey Brett,

You may want to stick this into google translator:

https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/top-14/2018-2019/top-14-et-goze-lacha-le-scoop_sto7761888/story.shtml

The global season: Who wins a contest of good intentions versus self interest?

The other determining factor could be $$$. If they were set to make a huge increase by having a global season and tournament, that may be persuasive…

The global season: Who wins a contest of good intentions versus self interest?

It’s very unlikely of course, but on paper, building on Craig’s proposal, if the 6N could be moved to the Oct-Nov window in line with TRC, then it would allow all Fiji and SA test players from europe to play in TRC. The one factor that could possible help this to happen would be that it would then allow the Nth Hem club season to run uninterrupted from Dec-June. Club/Super would be one block and international one block for both Nth and Sth.

And if that were possible, then it would be one small step to the ideal: flip the inbound/outbounds block (Aug-Sep) with TRC/6N block (Oct-Nov). That way, when Nth Hem start their (international) season in Aug, they’re all similarly dissadvantaged for the 6N, rather than having to play the Sth Hem teams first up, who are in the peak of their season.

This would also allow for a better Global rugby Championship each year if they wanted it.

So the one big obstacle is the 6N really.

The global season: Who wins a contest of good intentions versus self interest?

“However if the right people are listened to and egos are put to the side, there is a chance Australian rugby can model itself to have the right balance of professional players in a domestic competition that gives spectators enough premium rugby while also laying down the foundations for a system that can increase the chances of Wallaby success.”

Very encouraging! I’d love to read another article from you, MDiddy, fleshing this out a bit more.

The Wrap: Giteau’s Law must survive, but with a twist

That’s right MDiddy. And I think just the very fact of the NRL and AFL existing in Oz is always going to produce a level of discontent among Oz rugby fans because it’s so hard not to compare what you’ve got with what they’ve got. Hopefully, a better structure with come out of this.

The Wrap: Giteau’s Law must survive, but with a twist

I think the game from NZ every friday night at 5.30 was a winner.

The Wrap: Giteau’s Law must survive, but with a twist

I agree that S12 was good, but Australia were always going to push for more teams because of their insatiable desire for more of a domestic presence. That won’t stop until that desire is met.

The champions league idea/finals series could solve that.

The future of SANZAAR

Or even just the top two teams from each domestic comp/conference…

The future of SANZAAR

I dare say Oz fans would be happy playing SA if it wasn’t a season long competition. It’s nothing personal, it just doesn’t work logistically for what Oz fans are looking for in a competition. But if it was just a champions league or finals series, that would be ok.

The main thing for Oz fans is having that domestic presence and consistent time-slots.

The future of SANZAAR

All fans from all countries should expect their national unions to do what’s best for them. And all do. But no one is making any demands of other countries, just expressing their desires.

The future of SANZAAR

I hear you re the CC, Corne.

I think SR over 10 weeks is still too long if it doesn’t have all the best players in it. If it’s just the top teams from each domestic comp, then no more than 3-5 weeks. In Europe it can go for 9 weeks because it’s spread throughout a much longer domestic season.

The future of SANZAAR

Oh drat! I was all ready to get on here this morning and argue about who’s to blame for all the problems in Australian rugby, only to find this feel-good piece.

Hopefully there’ll still be a chance to layout some far-fetched super rugby models before the day’s over.

The Wrap: Cauliflower Club a shining light in Australian rugby

Canterbury Crusaders?

The blabbering of an old rugby fan

Agree with all the problems you point out with SR, Corne.

If each country had a domestic comp with all the test players available, then SR no longer needs to play the role it currently tries to play.

Instead, SR could afford to be a lot shorter with just the best vs the best again. To do this, there would need to be fewer teams, as you suggest, with all the best players funnelled into those rep teams. And with the supercharged domestic comps in place, SR could simply be promoted as an event-style comp (a bit like State of Origin in Oz). It wouldn’t need finals. Just a straight round robin with a first past the post winner. Every game counts.

In fact, by shaping SR in this way, and resisting the temptation to expand it, it drives revenue up because it never gets old, and fans are left wanting to see more of its intensity. Therefore, SR ends up supplementing any revenue needed for moving to a domestic focus.

The blabbering of an old rugby fan

Yeah, I did read a whispering of this proposal, JD. I wasn’t sure what the purpose was of moving TRC to be in-line with the 6N.

I guess one positive of it, along with the Nth Hem clubs no longer clashing with the test teams, is that it might make it a lot easier for SA (and possibly Oz) to pick their test players from Europe.

A once-in-a-generation opportunity