No-go Cobbo, Ponga v Walsh, RCG ahead of Jurbo: Who the stats say should be picked for Origin

By Mike Meehall Wood / Editor

In case you haven’t noticed, State of Origin is almost upon us. That means we have to start paying a lot of attention to things like ‘form’ and ‘smokeys’ as if we were 50-year-olds sat in the back of a pub on a Wednesday afternoon, nose in the paper and tiny pen in hand.

State of Origin represents a strange beast for those of us who think that rugby league is a game of systems and tactics, which can be analysed using stats, because almost none of the conversation around who should get picked really refers to them.

Origin is unique, because it is essentially a meaningless all-star game, a sideshow bagatelle, but also the most important game on the calendar, especially in terms of national audiences when no international games have been taking place.

For those of us who sit through press conferences with coaches, we have to listen to them get asked constantly about whether X player would be suited to the Origin arena, all the while knowing deep down that a) those coaches would rather their players play exclusively for them and b) the coach tends to pick last year’s Origin team largely independent of current form.

For all that we discuss ‘smokeys’ and ‘bolters’, realistically the Origin coaches only chance 10% of the squad year-on-year, unless there’s a massive raft of injuries or one side gets whacked.

There’s been a lot of that this year. NSW are missing their frontline centres (who aren’t centres anyway, but whatever) and will have to replace them, while Queensland have a much weaker squad and therefore more spots open.

With that in mind, I had a look through the bit set o’ stats to see who the numbers actually say should be picked for this year’s series: with some surprising results.

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Selwyn Cobbo should be nowhere near this team – for now

OK, so the first selection ‘dilemma’ is about the emergence of Brisbane Broncos winger Selwyn Cobbo and whether he is now ready for the Origin arena. The short answer is: if you take a sample size of the last three weeks, maybe, if you take longer, no.

We love talking about form, but really, this one is less about form than it is about a huge recency bias. If we assume that Origin is a defence-first, attritional style of football, then Cobbo would be a horrendous pick, at least at the moment.

He averages 125m running – Murray Taulagi, his direct rival, is on 123m – but that’s largely helped by having recorded 200m in the last three games. Prior to that, he managed over 100m just twice all year, or 20% of the time.

His last three games are also the first three in which he has not recorded an error – previously he averaged three per match, which is obviously quite bad.

Actually, in the core stats for Origin-level wingers, Cobbo isn’t even the best option from the Broncos, because Corey Oates is better in pretty much every category and comes with the benefit of already having played Origin for three years.

The debate has been Cobbo v Taulagi, and the Cowboys winger wins out the numbers battle easily.

He has steadily tracked upwards to average 123m this season, roughly the same as Cobbo, but has only once gone below 100m while averaging far fewer errors over a much larger sample size, implying consistency week-to-week,

He also plays with the bloke inside him, Valentine Holmes, every week, with all the cohesion value that brings. Cobbo might be the man for the future – but he certainly isn’t for now.

Reece Walsh should get a run before Kalyn Ponga

Our second Queensland question comes to their fullback, which is a straight shootout between two players in rubbish teams that are trying to do the best that they can within the situation.

There’s Kalyn Ponga, talisman of a bad Newcastle team, and Reece Walsh, talisman of a bad Warriors team. Ponga is the incumbent as he played game three last year, though Walsh was named to play game two but then got injured.

The pair are quite comparable, because neither play for good teams and both play similar roles within that team as a primary creative force from the back.

If you’re looking at attacking data points, Walsh is clearly better. In a team that generates the worst go-forward in the NRL, he generates more metres, more try assists, more line break assists, more tackle breaks and try contributions.

On the defensive side, Ponga is more secure, though that doesn’t say much in that both are very bad. For set starts, for example, Jayden Campbell would be the best option Queensland have, albeit off a smaller sample size, but NSW could pick five fullbacks who would be better.

Ponga has runs on the board given his outstanding Origin breakthrough in 2018, but has only managed four games from a potential 12 since his debut. He’s got some continuity value, but not much.

Walsh is younger and has the benefit that his stats come off far fewer possessions total – he gets the ball nine fewer occasions per game than Ponga – implying that he is far more efficient at creating attacking productivity.

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RCG has to play and Jurbo has to go

For the Blues, you could pick 1-7 almost immediately given the strength of the backline and the injuries that see two walk-up starters in Tom Trbojevic and Latrell Mitchell ruled out. Stephen Crichton and Kotoni Staggs are the clear next men up.

In the forwards, however, things could be very different. Several starters from 2021, notably Jake Trbojevic and Tariq Sims, have not been in form and Cameron Murray is under an injury cloud.

The middle forward rotation poses a headscratcher for coach Brad Fittler. Jake Trbojevic has featured as a front row, lock and interchange forward in his 13 Origin games so far, but it is hard to see a justification for including him on current form.

Jurbo is one of the game’s great defenders, but Fittler would be picking him essentially as a specialist defender at this stage: Isaah Yeo will operate in the ball-playing position that Jake plays for Manly, and if he doesn’t do that, there’s no point having him there.

If you’re not picking Jake as a lock, you’re picking him as a prop, and he’s far from the best option there. Unless the plan is for him to make 50 tackles and never touch the football, then someone else has to be found.

So who do you bring in? Well, for the middle option, it’s easy. Reagan Campbell-Gillard should be in.

RCG is one of the top five props in the league for metres gained, but also for runs over 8m – the benchmark for a strong carry – and one player hit-ups, the standard for tough carries.

There is one other clear standout, though he won’t get picked: David Klemmer. The Newcastle prop actually outperforms RCG on most metrics while presenting an otherwise similar statistical profile.

Klemmer fell out with Fittler in 2019, however, and hasn’t been considered since. If numbers picked the team, he would walk into it.

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Very important selection Matters(on)

The back row is far from cut and dried for the Blues. Cam Murray is injured, at least for game one, while Angus Crichton and Tariq Sims are in poor form.

Crichton just about gets a pass because he plays big minutes and tackles everything that moves, managing 30 on average per game with just one miss.

Sims is in a similar boat to Jake Trbojevic. In 2022, he doesn’t make many metres, break many tackles or offload the ball. The Dragons are a weak team and Sims doesn’t stand out, statistically speaking at least.

In terms of an edge player, the case is a bit more complicated. Assuming Angus Crichton is picked, there is a strong case for Keaon Koloamatangi and Ryan Matterson for the other spot.

Matterson leads the comp in running metres for back-rowers while both are right up there for 8m+ runs, tackle breaks and metres per run. Matterson is also superb for offloads and Koloamatangi scoring well for line breaks.

The pair profile quite similarly in defence – the only area Sims is also equal to them – but offer far more on the offensive side of the game than the Dragons man.

There’s also a decent case for Tyson Frizell, who hasn’t featured for the Blues since 2020, to be recalled to the side.

Frizell is defensively the equal to Crichton – much better than the average back-rower – and ahead of him for tackle breaks. If Fittler decided he wanted experience, he could do a lot worse.

The Crowd Says:

2022-05-27T08:38:30+00:00

Brett

Roar Rookie


Great statistical analysis. But why club stats aren’t as relevant as one would expect is probably connected to how much a player views Origin as essentially a meaningless all-star game. The expert out of the two squads on this relevance would be unquestionably Mr Dane Gagai, who seems to treat his whole NRL season as only pretraining for this time of year.

2022-05-27T05:45:56+00:00

Rossi

Roar Rookie


I also think he's too slow for Origin, takes an age to play the ball.

2022-05-27T00:43:33+00:00

Albo

Roar Rookie


I have been a Koloamatangi fan for a while. But I must admit his current form has tapered off recently . He seems to be missing Reynolds as much as anyone at Souths right now, and is not being used to best advantage right now. But he works hard whether on the edge or in the middle. He has a big engine and can be effective if used correctly.

2022-05-27T00:35:02+00:00

Albo

Roar Rookie


The selection of wingers for QLD must be an interesting quandary for the selectors. Both Coates & Cobbo would make great targets for Munster & DCE lobbing up high balls in attack over the NSW's likely "shorties " in To'o & Addo Carr. But then neither of them offer a great deal bringing the ball off their own line. And I think both are pretty ordinary reading defence , especially Coates. And I can see him being targeted in Origin 1 by Cleary, Luai & To'o. Cobbo is a dangerous runner of the ball with a bit of space , but can make an error or two . Maybe Tualagi offers a bit more reliability but less potential to break open a match ?

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2022-05-26T23:45:34+00:00

Mike Meehall Wood

Editor


I was amazed at Klemmer - previously I wasn't that fussed about Origin and never ran the numbers so couldn't believe why he wasn't getting picked. All the twitter searches threw up similar 'why is this bloke not getting picked?' tweets. For Newcastle: my suspicion would be that they have rarely fielded that pack at the same time. Pretty much everyone has sat out through injury or suspension at points. Also Knights draw was brutal until about three weeks ago.

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2022-05-26T23:43:05+00:00

Mike Meehall Wood

Editor


Cobbo's errors were the major issue, because he makes loads of them - well, made loads of them until a month ago. Running metres for a winger is a pretty important stat and Cobbo only excels at it in the last month too. If one thinks that the Cobbo of this month is sustainable, then maybe pick him, but I'd be going with the longer sample site in Taulagi. Both play in decent sides and outside good players, which is more important (for me) unlike FBs where KP and RW are the main creative player. As for defensive: there's a fair argument that Coates is bad, because he tops the Line Break Causes metric - MT and SC are pretty equal on that. But I think Coates' attack will get him in regardless, and I doubt they'd want to debut two new wingers at once.

2022-05-26T22:40:05+00:00

no one in particular

Roar Guru


We’re heading down this Klemmer path again? It was done to death last year and, like last year, his form does means he is well off contention. But it’s probably off post contact metres, because he backs into the defence, which defences like because it allows them to legally slow down the play the ball and reset their line I don’t get the love for Koloamatangi. Walsh is a better player then Ponga, but they will stick with Ponga

2022-05-26T22:09:01+00:00

souvalis

Roar Rookie


'Coates will always be a target in the air'. Des Hasler last night's presser. Freddy was really dirty on Matterson when he bunged on a Haas in '19 to get out of his Tigers contract and publicly said he wouldn't pick him. Hopefully he'll recant on that as no forward in the NRL is playing harder or tougher than Matterson this season.

2022-05-26T21:42:11+00:00

Dean

Roar Rookie


Cheers Mike, interesting read. I find the Klemmer situation, actually the Newcastle forward pack for that matter, perplexing. The falling out with Fittler must have been profound as, superficially at least, it seems to have similarities with the falling out with Latrell Mitchell although the later was able to repaired for which all us NSW supporters remain extremely grateful. It seems that Klemmer's stats have remained consistently high over the last few seasons although he has spent time on Newcastle's bench rotation without an apparent drop in form. Is there a characteristic of Klememr or his game which doesn't fit with coaching expectations? Back to the Newcastle pack. Featuring 2 x Saifitis, Klemmer, Frizell, Fitzgibbon and Barnett along with an ok support cast, they should be able to match any pack but have not been effective this year. Similar story with Sims who should be a standout in an otherwise powder puff (forgive a Dragons supporter - it would be kinder to say journeymen and toilers) pack. However, we saw Sims picked from relative obscurity last year to provide effective service in Origin. Are arguments for the selection of Frizell more based on an expectation he could immediately slot in to the Origin pack and perform a role as opposed to his ability to contribute a point of difference or be a dominant presence on the field? If that's the case, shouldn't the discussion centre around a whole of team consideration particularly with the untested NSW centre combination? Last year's series was largely won through the dominance of Mitchell and Turbo: we don't know what Crichton and Staggs (or whomever is selected) will bring and it would be very optimistic to expect a similar performance to last year. With that being the case, does NSW cede too much of an advantage by picking edges who can just fill a role or defend a channel?

2022-05-26T21:32:00+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


So where does Coates rate in the stats analysis? Also, what about the defensive stats? I’ve seen Cobbo quash more chances this year (he certainly covered Staggs a lot) than Coates ever did. Equally to the FB comparison, both are in poorly performing teams so Tualagi playing on the end of a good team get his stats reduced a touch? Dunno, while i agree Cobbo might be a year away i don’t think overall running metres are the only metric to rule them by. Agree about Klemmer but it might be his previous attitude alone that keeps him out. Freddie will take the safe, known option. Especially since qld pack is quite settled with some form guys pushing them. I wouldn’t be surprised to see RCG, Sims and Jurbo for G1 at least. If he loses G1 at home it will be panic stations.

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