Origin eligibility is never black or white, it's always Maroon

By Choppy Zezers / Roar Rookie

The debate around State of Origin eligibility always brings out the best, chest-thumping, passionate, patriotic beast in all of us. Well not the best, or beastly, but you know what I mean.

And the recent article by the always popular Tony leads to the obvious next step: a questionable analysis of Queensland Origin eligibility. The basis for this weak theory is a hand-picked team of NSW-born players.

As a New South Welshman, there’s no doubt in my bitter, traumatised, anti-northern mind that Queensland forever cheats and breaks the rules by picking guys born in the premier state.

Queenslanders, justifiably and smugly, just sit back and mock this pitiful outrage while reflecting on Greg Inglis’ Maroon-soaked domination.

Melbourne-born Timana Tahu, Peter Wallace and Dean Pay would agree that this situation is a farce.

Sure, there is an eligibility criteria and definition of ‘origin’. All very well documented and explained and easy to follow.

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But who wants that? Come Origin, logic goes out the window, emotion replaces rationality, and we just want to see the biff brought back.

Just like when Samoan-born John Hopoate swung wildly at teammate Danny Moore at the MCG.

So here is what could barely be described as a fair and reasonable exercise, bringing some reasoned investigation as to why Queensland are big, blatant cheaters.

And as we know cheaters… never win? Well, cheaters win most of the time in Origin.

Oh, don’t start blowing up at me just yet, Queenslanders. You’ll have plenty of time for that.

Just read the team of Queensland players born in NSW:

1. Robbie O’Davis (Kurrajong)
2. Mat Rogers (Sydney)
3. Greg Inglis (Kempsey)
4. Paul Bowman (Newcastle)
5. Israel Folau (Minto)
6. Julian O’Neill (Hornsby)
7. John Dowling (Murwillumbah)
13. Billy Moore (Tenterfield)
12. Matt Gillett (Macksville)
11. Sam Thaiday (Sydney)
10. Christian Welch (Sydney)
9. Wayne Bartrim (Hat Head)
8. Tino Fa’asuamaleaui (Orange)

14. Scott Sattler (Camperdown)
15. Michael Crocker (Auburn)
16. Chris Flannery (Cowra)
17. Norm Carr (Coffs Harbour)

Coach: Barry Muir (Tweed Heads)

Great Blues team this one, I’m sure you’d agree.

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I had to pick John Dowling at half due to the lack of a genuine NSW-born number seven (happy to be corrected). And John-not-Greg will be lining up against Toowoomba’s Peter Sterling, with Gold Coast’s ‘Captain America’ Steve Rogers at six.

Or Rogers in the centres and Ipswich lad Luke Keary the five-eighth. You’d be hard picked to find a better Queensland/American Ipswich connection.

See, Queensland? You claim that you own Origin. That ownership claim is on the back of the efforts of these Blues turncoats.

So come Wednesday night just before kick-off, you should harness your inner Billy Moore and shout out loud and proud, ‘Tenterfielder!’

Makes you wonder: would this team have played as well or achieved as much playing for NSW? Don’t be daft. Of course not.

In the early days, Queensland had Wally Lewis. And Wally was Origin.

They also started that annoying Queensland habit of always claiming underdog status (NSW countered unsuccessfully with Cattledog).

Queensland always found a way to win. Queensland fought above their weight for years until they got a team for the ages … and we don’t need to relive that. Just ask Bundaberg-born Ken Nagas.

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The farcical efforts of Queensland selecting those hatched in NSW is best summed up by Origin historian, eligibility expert and Blues legend Benny Elias.

Benny once bemoaned, “If those blokes are Queenslanders, then I‘m Swedish.” Benny was a great footballer, but lousy at geography: he was born in Tripoli, which is in Lebanon.

If anyone was qualified to talk about Lebanese-Origin eligibility, it’d be Benny. Or Hazem El Masri, who was also born in Tripoli.

Benny’s Swedish claim gains further credit when you consider some of the true Blues he spilt blue blood with during Origin.

Think Ian Roberts (born in England), Mario Fenech (born in Malta) or Brisbane-born Chris Johns in the backs.

See? Yet more examples of the Elias theory that Queenslanders experience a chronic form of statewide Stockholm Syndrome.

And don’t even start me on those born overseas who claim to be eligible for Queensland Origin. It’s a joke. James Tamou, Willie Mason, Aku Uate and James McManus often laugh out loud about it.

So that settles it then. When it comes to deciding who is eligible to play State of Origin, it’s never black or white: it’s always Maroon.

The Crowd Says:

2022-07-06T06:50:52+00:00

Bernie Howard

Guest


When the players introduce themselves on channel 9 prior to the game GI once proclaimed, "Greg Inglis, Bowraville Tigers." Sat no more.

2022-06-10T11:27:55+00:00

Jay

Guest


I hear Stirlo was a pretty good player for NSW… last time I checked Toowoomba isn’t in NSW. It goes both ways.

2022-06-08T23:50:51+00:00

PaulC

Guest


Brenton, Brad Thorn only played RU for NZ not League.

AUTHOR

2022-06-08T20:05:57+00:00

Choppy Zezers

Roar Rookie


You can always count on Tasmanians.

2022-06-08T15:16:22+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


Canberra was originally populated by Victorian public servants who had moved from the previous capital, Melbourne. This migration was quite slow because when I arrived in Canberra in 1974 it was not complete. The only commercial television station showed the VFL match of the day live while the NSWRL televised match of the day was shown on Sunday night after the 8:30 movie finished between 10:30-11:00pm. I signed a petition in 1980 to get the TV channel to show it early on Sunday night. Victorians also wanted the capital to be in Dalgety, colder than Canberra, near the Victorian border. Thankfully the Tasmanians voted for Canberra to win the battle of the capital.

2022-06-08T02:16:53+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


We take anyone of quality who sees the light ...

2022-06-07T22:56:43+00:00

Kent Dorfman

Roar Rookie


i put beer on mine

2022-06-07T22:38:03+00:00

Paul

Guest


That’s true. Yet they’re all born here . Lucky they’re all proud of the country of their birth!

2022-06-07T22:25:31+00:00

KenW

Roar Rookie


I said that at the time of his 16th birthday, he had never lived in Queensland. He hadn't, he was at Hunter Sports High in Newcastle at the time which is where he played his first senior footy. He later moved to Brisbane for about a year - going to Wavell State High - before moving full-time to Melbourne. None of this is contested, all knew at the time he wasn't eligible - he made a request to play for Queensland and NSW didn't oppose. It was a mistake all round, which I think at least NSW learnt from and applied in the Keary situation.

2022-06-07T22:05:35+00:00

Brenton Humphris

Guest


Let’s look at Tonie Carroll and Brad Thorne - played for QLD then NZ then back to QLD ????

AUTHOR

2022-06-07T21:59:31+00:00

Choppy Zezers

Roar Rookie


Big shout out to Usman Khawaja for his recognition as a Queensland great on Queensland Day. Born in Islamabad, family moved to NSW when he was 5, educated at Westfield's Sports High School then at the University of NSW. He will go well tonight for Queensland. He will look to gain control early, set the tempo and keep scoreboard pressure on.

2022-06-07T21:27:53+00:00

Kent Dorfman

Roar Rookie


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2022-06-07T21:26:38+00:00

Kent Dorfman

Roar Rookie


https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/documents/state-of-origin-eligibility-rules.pdf "Provision on application may be made to players who were born and resided the majority of their life in one state but played all Rugby League in the other state." - so what does that mean and who makes the final decision to what state a player represents?

AUTHOR

2022-06-07T13:18:02+00:00

Choppy Zezers

Roar Rookie


What about Burkina Faso?

AUTHOR

2022-06-07T13:17:05+00:00

Choppy Zezers

Roar Rookie


I thought I did that?

2022-06-07T08:47:37+00:00

aaron

Guest


or how ponga was born in WA

2022-06-07T08:45:25+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


State of Origin is like start-it-up-yourself religion, dysfunctional royalty & betting with corporate bookies. It sucks in everyone who can't think for themselves. Which is most of humanity. Tomorrow night you can watch true-blue NSWelsmen & true-maroon Qlders who dream of playing for, oh, wait for it, Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, PNG, Cook Islands, NZ, England, Ireland, Lebanon, Italy, USA, etc, anyone but Australia.

2022-06-07T08:40:45+00:00

Panthers

Guest


The whole point of calling the games , series State Of Origin. Was to have the Queenslanders play for Queensland & the New South Welshman, play for NSW. Not to also have the best New South Welshman playing for Queensland as well. Just because Queensland wishes to poach the best NSW juniors to go up there at a certain age. To qualify to play for Queensland. That’s a joke. It’s a lot like Bennett & his wanting to build a whole team of Queenslanders , at the Dolphins. As he stated. Yet they keep wanting to build the side out of Penrith juniors. Like a lot of other clubs.

2022-06-07T08:32:49+00:00

Justin

Guest


It should be where you are born. That leaves no doubt & can’t be tampered with. State Of Origin . If someone says that to anyone . They would automatically think, that that has to be where you’re born. So it should be!

2022-06-07T08:29:35+00:00

Paul

Guest


Such as Adrian Lam. The New Guinea test captain. Queensland has already been there.

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