Robinson spot on: What would Manly seven think if a teammate refused to wear a Pasifika themed jersey?

By Paul Suttor / Expert

Trent Robinson hit the nail on the head when he said “if someone had said they wouldn’t wear the Indigenous jersey there’d be an outcry”.

The Roosters coach spoke passionately and sensibly on Wednesday afternoon when he fronted the media to speak about the build-up to Thursday night’s game at 4 Pines Park against a Manly club that’s been thrown into turmoil by the furore created by their inclusivity rainbow jersey.

Seven players from the Sea Eagles – Josh Aloiai, Jason Saab, Christian Tuipulotu, Josh Schuster, Haumole Olakau’atu, Tolutau Koula and Toafofoa Sipley – are boycotting the game because they refuse to wear a jersey that does not align with their beliefs, based on cultural and religious grounds.

These players from Pacific Islander backgrounds need to ask themselves: What if Manly had launched a Pasifika themed jersey and one of their teammates refused to wear it?

The seven players are being portrayed in some quarters as victims in the Manly pride jersey debacle because they were not consulted beforehand.

What would have changed if the players had been told about the rainbow themed jersey? If they’d been given the heads-up, they would have played? Of course not.

They are unhappy they didn’t get the chance to refuse to wear it before it was publicly announced, thus depriving them of the chance to force the club to pull the idea before it saw the light of day.

Whether they’re basing their decisions on religious reasons or not, the rationale is still homophobic and should not be applauded in any way shape or form. 

Just like Israel Folau hiding behind religion as the reason for his homohophobic social media rants a few years ago, these players have the freedom of speech. And through that right, they have exposed themselves for what they are. 

Trent Robinson (Photo by Jason McCawley/Getty Images)

Robinson said this was not just about rugby league. “This was a snapshot that highlighted a wider rugby league issue. 

“This is a societal issue that’s been highlighted by our sport and other sports around the world. And it’s still an issue. 

“If someone had said they wouldn’t wear the Indigenous jersey there’d be an outcry – 40 years ago, that would have been the case, 80 years ago we wouldn’t have had Women In League Round. We’ve moved on those fronts, we haven’t moved on this. We need to move towards it at some point.

“We need to be inclusive as a human race. No one is better than anyone else.”

Robinson said it was a complex issue and applauded Manly coach Des Hasler and captain Daly Cherry-Evans for the way they fronted the media on Tuesday to address the matter.

He highlighted that in the youth gay community, suicide is five times the rate of the rest of the population and lamented the fact that this match was intended to be a vehicle to promote the Gotcha 4 Life mental health charity.

Ian Roberts (Anton Want/Getty Images)

“That’s because they don’t feel included,” he said in reference to the higher rates of death. “And for us in 2022 to say not be inclusive and not say it’s OK to be who you are is unacceptable and we need to move towards a better place. 

“And for rugby league, I want to say that we are inclusive, we do accept you for who you are, we care about you and we need to move forward in that way. That’s my personal view, I’ve talked to my players about it, we’ve talked about it openly.” 

The head of the charity, radio presenter Gus Worland earlier on Wednesday announced a significant portion of proceeds raised from the game will now go towards the LGBTQI community.

Manly legend Ian Roberts, who became the first openly game professional sportsman in Australia in the 1990s, is adamant that high-profile athletes coming out saves lives.

Jason Saab celebrates scoring a try with teammates. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

If you’ve ever been lucky enough to hear him speak, he does so from the heart as someone who has seen the tragic consequences that homophobia can have.

“I’ve lost friends to suicide and I’ve seen the consequences of what homophobia, transphobia, and all the phobias can do to people,” he said on Tuesday.

“I don’t want to start quoting the terrible statistics that we know about the LGBTQIA+ community and self-harm. But those are the types of consequences that come when there is pushback against stuff like (the inclusion jersey). This is what discrimination can do.”

Unlike Manly, the Roosters have an NRLW club and the women’s competition has many openly gay players and the issue of sexuality barely rates a mention.  

Jillaroos veteran Karina Brown received widespread attention and praise after she kissed her partner at the time, Vanessa Foliaki, after they had played against each other in 2018.

The 33-year-old Titans winger told the On Her Game podcast that she was “enraged and frustrated” at the actions of the seven Manly NRL players.

“It did trigger me, if I’m honest,” she said.

“I felt a bit enraged and frustrated and then I decided to dig a bit deeper and try and get the whole story … it’s actually not even a pride jersey which makes it even worse.

“This jersey is a Women in League round jersey and it’s ‘everyone in league’ … whether you love someone of the same sex or whether you love Jesus Christ, there’s a place for you here in rugby league.”

Robinson would have much preferred to be talking about on-field matters the day before a crucial clash against a team that is level with them on 20 competition points as part of a four-way tie for eighth spot.

However, he went on the front foot and spoke at length, showing why he is revered in rugby league as not just a coach, but a leader.

“It’s unfortunate in 2022 we’re still having this conversation. It’s unfortunate it’s panned out this way because everyone’s equal, no matter what race, gender, sexual preference. Let people make their choice and let’s not discriminate against those doing that,” he said.

“I’m about equality and I want people to feel like they’re cared for and loved and have a place no matter their sexual preference in the world.”

Amen to that.

The Crowd Says:

2022-08-26T11:13:41+00:00

spaceman

Roar Rookie


You think woke is progress? ... lol, now I have heard it all.

2022-08-26T11:12:40+00:00

spaceman

Roar Rookie


lol if you can't give a definition, that just means you don't know what it means ... but I would say your just ignorant, like most woke.

2022-07-31T23:28:54+00:00

anthony withers

Guest


I would say it's about. Cultural appropriation is something Aussies have been doing forever. Chinese tattoos, Celtic tattoos, Islander tattoos and more. Stop wearing our culture like a badge of honour. It doesn't belong to you! How would I feel if only islanders wore the jerseys? Happy

2022-07-31T01:06:30+00:00

Kent Dorfman

Roar Rookie


should the issue be with the "Manly 7" - or the priest at their church who is spewing forth this hatred?

2022-07-31T01:05:12+00:00

Kent Dorfman

Roar Rookie


cuz its in the bible TB - a book about murder, rape, incest, liars, genocide, slavery, executions, bigotry, that's read to children on Sundays

2022-07-31T01:00:34+00:00

Kent Dorfman

Roar Rookie


i have always found that many religious types always spout "goodwill to my fellow man" but what they really mean is "goodwill to my fellow man as long as they are the same race / religion / sexual orientation and colour as they are, everyone else can go and get fkd"

2022-07-30T04:15:20+00:00

Birdy

Roar Rookie


11! What more needs to be said.

2022-07-30T03:45:41+00:00

Wal

Roar Guru


The Boy (how they identify and had done so since 11) had his Mother’s consent. The Father took them both to court to stop hormone therapy, not surgery. And lost on the recommendation of an Endocrinologist, Phycologist, and Mother as to what is in the best interests of the Child. “The high court ordered the dad to not stand in the way of the 15-year-old’s hormone therapy and to try and better understand gender dysphoria, the outlet reported. He was also told to stop speaking to the media about the case and warned that his public attempts to undermine his child’s wishes was a form of family violence, according to the article.” He refused to follow the court order so was jailed for contempt of court for 6 months. So the case is far more nuanced than the over simplifaction you refer to as been butchered.

2022-07-29T23:46:33+00:00

Birdy

Roar Rookie


The case I'm referring to us about a man and his daughter. How can any medical procedure be carried out without parental consent? Especially an unproven theory on gender reassignment at such a young age.

2022-07-29T23:29:33+00:00

Jane

Guest


Well said Trent. These players conduct is unacceptable.

2022-07-29T13:25:55+00:00

Wal

Roar Guru


It’s not common sense if it gets basic facts like a publicly available budgets so massively wrong. The father had a full and fair challenge via the courts and lost. The court decided the son’s rights over his own body went ahead of the fathers wishes. The jail term was protecting a son from having his father constantly demeaning him via the press.

2022-07-29T13:22:29+00:00

Wal

Roar Guru


Look up the definition of woke. It’s not what you think it is.

2022-07-29T13:21:11+00:00

Wal

Roar Guru


I love how you think woke is an insult. Then use progress to try and make your point . Yet fail to see progress doesn’t stop just because some say so. Your clearly not interested in any other point of view. So best we go our separate ways.

2022-07-29T09:31:19+00:00

Gray-Hand

Roar Rookie


Why are you being evasive? Just answer the question: Please explain how a belief that opposes the inclusion of LGBTQIA people in rugby league is morally justifiable.

2022-07-29T09:26:29+00:00

DP Schaefer

Roar Rookie


For a start were they voicing their opposition to the inclusion or to wear - with no notice - a jersey that infers they promote a lifestyle their beliefs hold immoral. That is moral justification. Furthermore, they are not refusing to play against gay people so they are not opposing inclusion. You are not talking about inclusion, but rather when inclusion stops being acceptance and becomes advocation.

2022-07-29T09:18:47+00:00

DP Schaefer

Roar Rookie


And it would have been wise for V'landys not to fuel the fire and to simply come out and say, "look fellows, this is all a but unnecessary, the focus is Women in League Round, not another group. We're all for inclusivity but this round is about the women , put the jersey away and we'll look at another event."

2022-07-29T09:17:47+00:00

Gray-Hand

Roar Rookie


Please explain how a belief that opposes the inclusion of LGBTQIA people in rugby league is morally justifiable.

2022-07-29T09:15:10+00:00

DP Schaefer

Roar Rookie


I'd disagree with that.

2022-07-29T09:13:04+00:00

DP Schaefer

Roar Rookie


They are choosing a morally unjustifiable belief over a worthy goal. Where is their belief morally unjustifiable?? Who set those morals? God might like a chat with you about your foundations there. That they don't wish to appear to condone a lifestyle reprehensible to their core belief system is wrong for them? And where is your worthy goal?? I'd say the saving of a person's soul trumps anything you may be considering here.

2022-07-29T09:07:39+00:00

DP Schaefer

Roar Rookie


Yes, times change. And as TB has mentioned elsewhere, interpretations have a lot of impact. If I were to really hone in on the source issues here I'd be saying inclusiveness means that people with deep conviction should be respected and the Manly 7 should be respected rather than be subject to name calling, especially when you understand this situation was dumped on them at the last instant. But that is really just the side issue, the real problem with this mess is that the 'Women in League' Round has been distracted and disrespected by some people, be they Manly Marketing or elsewhere, that thought it would be clever to make a different theme a focus of the round.

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