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That’s a professionalism and experience thing. A 29 year old with 200 games experience knows how to stay fit on their own. A 22 year with only one season of being a professional athlete still needs the trainers, coaches, nutritionists etc to keep them on the path.

The Brisbane Broncos have too much talent to come dead last in 2021

Come on Jez – Of course Brisbane clubs want to grow the game at club level. Everyone at all levels of rugby wants that. It doesn’t conflict with an NRC. In fact it is obvious that the Wld guys wanted it to run it with the cooperation of RA and the state unions.

You are just reading what you want to read, not what is written.

The article is clear – the NSW guys wanted to compete with the NRC, and the Qld guys wanted to avoid competition with the NRC and bailed out on the interstate club competition as soon as the NSW guys suggested competing with the NRC.

And who cares what Moore (no position with any Qld club, angry that RA won’t return his calls) and Marto (Fox Sports) think about the NRC? They don’t speak for Qld clubs.

Rob Penney threw down the gauntlet and NSW Rugby are mad if they take it

Of course they wanted RA money for a club completion – why wouldn’t they?

But as the article makes clear – as soon as the NSW clubs started talking about competing against the NRC, they called off the meeting.

The NRC has always been well supported by Qld clubs. That article specifically states that it was Sydney clubs fighting against RA and the states over the NRC. The Qld clubs were trying to work with RA and the state unions and were against the idea of competing with the NRC. That’s clear from the article:

Not for the first time, Australian rugby appears to be at war with itself, although scratch the surface and it quickly emerges that most of the trouble stems from a number of the Sydney clubs and their passionate spokespeople, including high-profile former greats Brett Papworth, Bob Dwyer and Simon Poidevin.

A historic interstate club rugby forum meeting scheduled for November 12 at Sydney University between Brisbane and Sydney presidents has been scrapped as top clubs north of the border have sought to distance themselves from Papworth’s criticism and plans to launch a rival to the NRC, which were detailed in a series of emails obtained by Fairfax Media. The presidents of leading Brisbane clubs Brothers and University of Queensland both stressed the concept, termed in the emails “a potential alternative to the NRC”, was a long-term goal that would require buy-in from the state unions and the ARU, and would not be possible to fund in the short-term.

“If we went it alone without the ARU’s consent there is no way we could afford it,” UQ Rugby club president Michael Zaicek said, adding that the mood among Brisbane clubs was overwhelmingly to work with the QRU and ARU to grow the game at junior and club level.

Rob Penney threw down the gauntlet and NSW Rugby are mad if they take it

You might want to read that article again Jez. You have completely misunderstood it.

It specifically states that the UQ and Brothers clubs immediately moved to distance themselves from any attempt to start a competition that would compete with the NRC.

Rob Penney threw down the gauntlet and NSW Rugby are mad if they take it

NSW is by far the most parochial and inward looking state when it comes to rugby. It killed the NRC.

Rob Penney threw down the gauntlet and NSW Rugby are mad if they take it

Bennett or Bellamy wouldn’t have got the spoon. Any other coach probably would have.

Just because Seibold isn’t as good as Bennett, doesn’t mean he can’t coach.

The Brisbane Broncos have too much talent to come dead last in 2021

They don’t get first shot though.

The agents sign the kids long before the clubs are allowed to sign them. Then the agent decides where they go.

The Brisbane Broncos have too much talent to come dead last in 2021

I’m trying to be kind.

The Brisbane Broncos have too much talent to come dead last in 2021

I’d agree Seibold probably wasn’t the best coach for those circumstances. His strengths are probably better suited to getting the best out of a veteran team rather than building a team of youngsters ( which means he was a bad appointment to oversee a rebuild). I get the impression that Seibold is highly professional and assumes professionalism and maturity in those around him.

But any coach can only do so much. I think a bigger factor was the failing of the senior players to provide guidance to the junior players on how to maintain and prepare themselves during a season with way less support than usual. Other teams had at least a few grizzled veterans who can provide guidance to young players to keep them focussed and motivated inside the bubble. The Broncos had Anthony Milford and Darius Boyd. Not surprising that they fell apart.

The Brisbane Broncos have too much talent to come dead last in 2021

They actually won their first two games and looked good doing it.

The COVID bubble was difficult to handle for a team with so many young players who were still feeling their way as professional sportsmen.

The Brisbane Broncos have too much talent to come dead last in 2021

Yeah – wasn’t being critical of them not grabbing any big names. The fact is a wooden spoon basket case with a rookie coach isn’t going to be grabbing any top tier talent until they have a few runs on the board.

The Brisbane Broncos have too much talent to come dead last in 2021

Injuries suck the heart out of a team.

A team with 15 injured players means that the players taking the field are playing out of position and alongside players who are also out of position. They don’t gel as well. They can’t rely on the man next to them to do their job. Often they can’t do their job because they are injured (Lodge for example played with a broken leg for several games.

That has a devastating effect on morale.

People blame Seibold for chopping and changing players and playing them out of position. The injuries forced Seibold to do that.

The Brisbane Broncos have too much talent to come dead last in 2021

They might not have recruited any big names, but getting rid of Boyd is probably worth 2 wins on its own.

The Brisbane Broncos have too much talent to come dead last in 2021

The problem last year was injuries.
Probably the worst of any side in the NRL era.

The Brisbane Broncos have too much talent to come dead last in 2021

To be fair, that’s what the appointment of Walters and the reconnection with the old boys is designed to achieve.

The Brisbane Broncos have too much talent to come dead last in 2021

As a resident of Brisbane, it is nice to finally have my personal contribution to the Broncos success recognised.

The Brisbane Broncos have too much talent to come dead last in 2021

Lodge being signed by the Broncos predates the no fault stand down rule.

And in any event, Lodge had served his sentence, had his contract torn up, and several years had passed before he was allowed to play for the NRL.

So it isn’t really a relevant comparison.

The NRL needs to sort out its M&Ms instead of worrying about getting Fuller

A legal aid lawyer would have advised him to accept a guilty plea to a lesser charge.

There just isn’t adequate legal aid funding to run a case like this to a final hearing without writing off tens of thousands of dollars of the lawyer’s time.

The NRL needs to sort out its M&Ms instead of worrying about getting Fuller

Every single police officer would know that any negative interaction they would have with a rugby league player, or anyone connected with the NRL, would cause a headache for the commissioner. It’s just a completely untenable position.

And imagine another Curtis Scott situation – what happens when police officers, directly answerable to the commissioner are found to have assaulted a player and lied to a court? What action would any other board member be expected to take against their own employees in those circumstances?

The NRL needs to sort out its M&Ms instead of worrying about getting Fuller

Yeah – that is exactly what it was.
It was absurd for Fuller to think it would ever fly.

The NRL needs to sort out its M&Ms instead of worrying about getting Fuller

The Broncos have always made a point of always having a few former police in senior management positions. Definitely makes the PR team’s job easier.

The NRL needs to sort out its M&Ms instead of worrying about getting Fuller

Worth noting the Payne Hass case as well. The fact that the only charges were laid related to his interaction with police suggest that had the police not inserted themselves into a situation that didn’t require their involvement, no offence would have occurred.

The NRL needs to sort out its M&Ms instead of worrying about getting Fuller

I would put Samo in ahead of Wilson, although Wilson has a lot of room left for development.

Is it time to reconsider dumping the National Rugby Championship?

That would imply that this team is the equal of the team that won the 2011 tournament, since they would contribute equal numbers to a combined team. You can’t be serious about that.

There is no way this team would be contenders for a super rugby title. They had a hard time beating the semi-professional Force last year.

Is it time to reconsider dumping the National Rugby Championship?

How many of the 20-21 team would get selected in the 2010-12 team?

Is it time to reconsider dumping the National Rugby Championship?