The history Collingwood risks repeating in pursuit of Daniel McStay

By Les Zig / Roar Guru

Collingwood’s commitment to securing Brisbane’s Daniel McStay baffles me.

McStay is a solid but unspectacular contributor playing third fiddle behind Eric Hipwood and Joe Daniher. This season McStay’s kicked 22.11, and has gone goal-less in eight of his 19 games. He’s never topped 30 goals in a season in his 158-game, nine-year career.

Is he really the missing piece in the Collingwood puzzle? Collingwood’s surprised everybody by finishing the home-and-away season fourth. Their performances have been built on a solid backbone of experience and an influx of good young talent.

Their recent forward lines have comprised Ash Johnson, Brody Mihocek, Jack Ginnivan, Beau McCreery, Jamie Elliott, Will Hoskin-Elliott, a resting ruckman and a rotation of cameos. Waiting in the VFL is the talented Oliver Henry. Waiting to return from injury is Nathan Kreuger.

Who exactly is McStay meant to displace? He’s not a gun forward who’ll demand a position or usurp a mainstay. He’s not a pressure forward like McCreery, an opportunist like Ginnivan or a runner like Elliott or Hoskin-Elliott.

Although Collingwood’s not overflowing with genuine key forwards, McStay hardly addresses that need either. Possibly Collingwood want to resurrect their Leigh Brown structure, playing a utility forward who can pinch-hit in the ruck, although that would seem counterintuitive to what’s working for them presently.

Perhaps McStay will be thrown down back. With Jordan Roughead retiring this season, Jeremy Howe 33 next year and father-son Will Kelly struggling to command a position, Collingwood’s arsenal of defensive talls is thin. Nathan Murphy has been a revelation, and Trey Ruscoe has shown he can hold down a slot, but both are utilities rather than genuine key positioners.

Is that a role that McStay can fulfil? Certainly he could cameo down there as needed, but is there a position in defence that he can make his own? And do the figures bandied about warrant using him this way?

On the flip side, if the argument is that McStay could play forward, which would allow Kreuger – who played as a defender in the VFL for Geelong – to be thrown back, the question again becomes: who is being displaced to make this happen? Now we’re not replacing just one incumbent but two.

A free-agency recruit should walk into the starting 18, but I just can’t see how Collingwood make McStay fit without sacrificing a regular who has a better return or a young player who’d benefit from the experience and who potentially has dramatically more upside. We’ve seen McStay’s best. We’re yet to see what Oliver Henry’s or Nathan Kreuger’s ceilings are.

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Possibly Collingwood are operating on information they haven’t divulged yet – that Jeremy Howe will retire, that Nathan Kreuger’s injury is worse than we’re aware of, that Oliver Henry wants out – and this is why McStay has been prioritised. That offers context if any of these things are true.

While I’m sure the figures floated in the media are exaggerated, they still threaten a certain irresponsibility.

Collingwood were rightly criticised for the largesse in their salary cap management that led to the 2020 fire sale that saw Adam Treloar, Jaidyn Stephenson, and Tom Phillips jettisoned.

Signing the aging McStay to a long, expensive contract smacks again of what Collingwood did with Chris Mayne in 2017 – and, to a lesser extent, the injury-prone Daniel Wells.

Mayne eventually reinvented himself as an invaluable foot soldier – a defensive winger – for Collingwood, but he was recruited as a forward and played just three games in his first season at the Pies. For the money Collingwood threw at him, you’d be excused for wanting more than a foot soldier. You’d want cavalry.

One counter will be that McStay improves Collingwood’s side. Would he? Would he be better than Ash Johnson, who’s kicked 13.4 in six games? Or Oliver Henry, who’s kicked 21.15 in 15 games? Or Brody Mihocek, who’s kicked 37.23 from 20 games? Or Jack Ginnivan, who’s kicked 36.28 from 20 games?

Or does McStay simply improve Collingwood’s depth? But do you recruit for depth? Do you recruit to sit players in the VFL just in case?

The final argument will be that, as a free agent, McStay is a free hit. But he’s not. Not really. He takes somebody’s spot on the list. He occupies valuable space in the salary cap. What if somebody truly meritorious becomes available next year and Collingwood lack just that bit of salary cap space extra to win them over?

McStay will be 28 next June. There’s no guarantee on his longevity – one might argue that he’s likelier to have a shorter career given the way he plays the game. A three-year contract is speculative. A five-year contract is an outright wager.

Given Collingwood’s best two key-forward prospects in the last five years have been inexpensive lateral selections – Brody Mihocek as a rookie and Ash Johnson as a midseason draftee – one would argue there’s an untapped well of mature-age players who could be plug and play, would be much cheaper to acquire and would also be an investment in a long-term future. At the very least they could play interim roles while Collingwood stockpile the war chest for a genuine star.

Collingwood’s kicked winning scores this year. They’ve held oppositions to defendable scores. Obviously both areas could be improved with genuinely big key positioners. But throughout the season they’ve struggled most in the midfield and with clearances. Surely a big-bodied mid and/or specialist extractor is where the focus should be. Address that and that’ll help the other two areas.

Free agency acquisition (and trading) should improve the list. Securing mid-aged players should immediately improve the side.

There are teams that McStay could walk right into and he’d do that.

He may have fitted Collingwood’s needs when the club were looking at him earlier in the year, but that no longer genuinely seems to be the case.

Do you hold to a course that’s no longer true?

The Crowd Says:

2022-09-12T14:04:18+00:00

Rick T

Guest


McStay is an over rated and over paid battler who is rarely amongst Brisbane's best players. He goes missing in many games and has kicked very few goals in his time there. He averages just 11 possessions per game. There is no good reason why Collingwood would or should recruit him.

2022-08-27T14:06:16+00:00

Rob Graziani

Guest


A plodding foot soldier with no X factor context to his game ,, I like most Pies fans are completely baffled & worried by this seemingly overpriced pursuit of a C grader ,, weve been down this path before & just mind boggling we,re doing it again ,, priority should be insecuring Degoey , Henry & a center clearance , stoppage , contested ball BULL !!!!!!

2022-08-26T21:20:44+00:00

PJ

Guest


Henry wants to leave, keen to play with his brother

2022-08-26T20:41:21+00:00

Virgil

Roar Rookie


Some games Grundy didnt even get a mark, let alone a contested mark.

2022-08-26T20:39:39+00:00

Virgil

Roar Rookie


Spot on. Cox will.be 32 at the start of next season. The Pies are looking ahead and addressing their need for a contested mark.

2022-08-26T20:35:53+00:00

Virgil

Roar Rookie


Moore wont be forward. He is part of the quick movement out of the backline. This article seems to presume that Howe and Cox will play forever and that Collingwood talls will have no injuries.McStay is only just 27. Whatever the stats, he is a strong contested mark. Going forwards, I see him replacing the current role being played by Cox especially as Grundy is likely to go.

2022-08-26T09:51:08+00:00

Flagpies

Guest


I think we could spend that money elsewhere on a young mid like Taranto and still keep Ollie Henry. I don't see McStay improving our team, we already have Mihocek, Johnson and Kruger (when healthy) as key forwards. That’s too much money to tie up on a “key forward” who has only kicked 20 goals from 19 games this year in a team contending for a flag. Please don’t.

2022-08-25T20:10:21+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


They’ve tried Moore forward and he’s looked like a fish out of water. But I get your point in that he has only had minutes forward under the new quick movement style of Fly.

2022-08-25T20:08:40+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


I think that’s part of the problem with Grundy. He is not a great contested mark and a bit slow to be a leading forward or closing back on say a Tom Lynch. He doesn’t have the speed of say a Roughead even. At his best he was a great ruck but also a follow up inside mid. Helped us with our clearance issues. One position player IMO

2022-08-25T20:04:52+00:00

Boo

Guest


Peter the Scribe thinking as I read this article McStay to the backline and Moore to the forward line .

2022-08-25T11:11:37+00:00

Jimmy Woods

Roar Rookie


Thx, that’s a shame, I like Grundy.

2022-08-25T06:53:19+00:00

Chris_S

Roar Rookie


The thing I do not understand is why Collingwood don't try Grundy as a key back. He is a good mark, good below his knees and pretty mobile for his size. Also lets face it Jeremy Howe is getting older and Collingwood will need to replacement him soon. It will cost $700k for a good key back from another club and it will cost $300k per year to move Grundy to another club. Those two costs together would equal Grundy's reported salary. Just keep Grundy and the bonus is you have the best backup ruck man in the competition

2022-08-25T00:27:33+00:00

Pistol

Roar Rookie


who is still kicking close to, if not 50 goals a year, most sides would take that in a heart beat in this day and age. Not to mention the extra media attention and promotion $$

2022-08-24T21:51:22+00:00

Mark

Guest


McStay is basically a slightly better Callum Coleman-Jones. I think that he'll have one reasonable season with Collingwood and then magoos

2022-08-24T12:41:18+00:00

XI

Roar Guru


That Rory Lobb talk has confused me the most of any trade speculation. It's the one I really can't see why player or club would elect for that result

2022-08-24T12:24:48+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


It seems so Jimmy. Pies simply can’t afford that Ned Guy contract

2022-08-24T10:05:30+00:00

Jimmy Woods

Roar Rookie


Is it nearly a done deal on Grundy Pete?

2022-08-24T10:04:40+00:00

Jimmy Woods

Roar Rookie


I’m with you Les in the sense I prefer to develop what we have and continue to mine the other leagues for gems like Ash Johnson, Checkers & Noble. Dean & Kruger to come in and maybe Will Kelly can get fit for long enough to give us a good look. I don’t get the McStay play but I do have much faith in Graham Wright to get it right.

2022-08-24T05:18:38+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Buddy is a champion but now a 48 year old man

2022-08-24T05:17:54+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Don't believe the $$$ floated in the media Opps. He will be good down back and a utility when needed.

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