Panthers, Storm or Roosters - why the most 'cynical' teams this finals series are the only ones who can win the premiership

By Dan Reihana / Roar Rookie

Before you read this article, please consider what commentators and the media refer to as a cynical penalty, and how this affects NRL games.

To place a context on my definition of “cynical”, below are a few personal definitions:

With one more round to go to determine the NRL 2022 finals placings, it seems to me that the teams with the best chance of winning this year’s premiership are the Panthers, the Storm or the Roosters.

Why?

Their coaches are the best ‘cynical footy’ coaches.

And… each of these three teams’ coaches have actually won a premiership before.

To Raiders fans: yes, I know Ricky won one ages ago and the Canberra Raiders will likely fill the 8th spot for the finals.

But will they have a chance of winning their 5 vs 8 Elimination Final match, most likely against the Storm? No!

The Raiders have proven throughout this season that they are not capable of matching these three teams. They have surprisingly managed to take the 8th spot away from the fast-fading, over-achieving Broncos after destroying Manly this weekend. Whether the Raiders or the Broncos make the 8, everybody knows that they are just delaying Mad Monday.

Experienced coaches (and experienced teams under said coach) continually show that they can win big matches & finals by:

The Storm have enjoyed 20 years of success by playing cynical footy. They are widely recognised for introducing wrestling tactics, grapple tackles, chicken wings (insert many other fancy names for Judo moves here) and more such dark arts to the game.

Due to the Storm’s long-term success, every other football coach and team has tried to imitate these tactics to varying degrees. Without fail, around Round 22 or 23, the Storm receive excessive media focus for their cynical footy – particularly when Cameron Smith was the captain of the Storm.

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The Storm managed to stay ahead of every other team for many years until late 2017-early 2018 . Trent Robinson worked out that giving away penalties in your own 10 metre zone wasn’t actually detrimental to your team, if they were fit enough and cynical enough to defend seven tackles rather than six.

When the Roosters played this style of footy or to quote Robinson, “Rooster ball,” referees and the NRL brains trust had no desire/will/inclination/balls to deter this negative tactic.

Referees would never use the sin-bin for repeatedly holding the man down, due to the popular misconception that 10 minutes is too much of a punishment. Roosters players were so well trained in this new “Rooster ball” method, that, after conceding a penalty within their red-zone, they would:

With referees discouraged from sending more than one player to the sin bin for repeated professional infringements, Trent Robinson’s Roosters won the “First One to Blink Contest” by beating the previous best-in-the-business, the Storm. They won the Premiership in 2018, and then fine-tuned their cynical play further in 2019 to take out that premiership as well.

Interestingly, Cooper Cronk, who is well respected for his footy brain, was an integral part of the Storm for so many years, and then went to the Roosters and won back-to-back premierships with the Chooks.

Co-incidence? Maybe. Maybe not.

So what happened next?

In 2020 – COVID year one – V’LandysBall was born.

Funnily enough, Trent Robinson was on the Rules committee to help determine these new rules.

Ivan Cleary, a very experienced coach (the 2nd most games coached without winning a premiership at that point), formulated a variation of “Rooster ball.” He had predominately young, fit and skilful players on the rise, who could handle the extra defensive workload of giving away constant cynical penalties in the red zone.

The new six again rule complimented the Panthers’ new way of playing – Fast, Up-Tempo, Energetic, (dare I say arrogant) and cynical.

The result – losing grand finalists to the Storm in 2020. But then in 2021, one minor premiership and one actual one. Most pundits believe they are odds-on to win this year’s big game as well.

Only the teams with a very experienced coach who understands, practises and his team plays cynical footy have a chance of knowing the Panthers over this year.

Sorry Eels fans, Sharks fans and Raiders fans, that eliminates your teams from being in the GF.

The Sharks have a newbie head coach in Craig Fitzgibbon. Even though he has spent many years learning “Rooster ball” under Trent Robinson at the Roosters, it is his first year with Cronulla, so no GF for them.

To the Raiders fans, you guys have been through a bit too much this year to be a serious threat. Also, Ricky won his one and only Premiership two decades ago, playing a totally different style of footy.

Brad Arthur has had a long and relatively successful tenure with the Eels, but despite his team managing regular season wins against the best cynical teams – most notably the Storm and Panthers of late – his team can’t do it enough when the degree of cynicism needed to win the most important games is essential.

The Cowboys have punched so far above their weight this season (especially after last year) that I think most people would be happy to see them win at least one finals game. However, I believe that they are not cynical enough to win three finals games in a row.

Todd Payten has had two seasons with the Cows now, so if he can ‘cynicise’ (not a word but bear with me) their footy, they might be able to beat the current champions over the next few years.

The teams in with a shot are the ones that know how to play cynical footy the best – the Panthers, Storm and Roosters. The Storm are no longer the best at it – the Panthers are. The Roosters just proved last Friday night that they can still play that cynical game – enough to handle the Storm, at least.

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Plus, I’ll never write off the best cynical coach in Craig Bellamy.

I haven’t mentioned the Rabbitohs so far, as I place them alongside the Sharks and the Cowboys, as teams with new-ish coaches, who have to understand, analyse and master the cynical method of playing in the NRL as it operates now.

I strongly believe the term ‘cynical’ should be replaced in commentary and media by the words ‘professional infringement’. We have seen way too many examples of players ‘giving away’ penalties in their own red zone.

It is not accidental! It is not incidental! It is not fatigue-induced!

It is a coached and learned tactic ingrained by their coach to give them the competitive advantage!

Don’t get me started on the term ‘gamesmanship’, either.

As I understand the NRL rules (it is really hard to keep up with changes, interpretations and directives), deliberate penalties should, at a minimum, be penalised in the first instance, then a sin-bin should be used on any further deliberate infringement.

Because holding the man down in the red zone IS a deliberate tactic, you should not get an advantage by deliberately giving away a penalty in the same or following set of six without a greater consequence (a 10-minute sin-bin).

Because it is a coached tactic, or learned behaviour, I place this squarely at the feet of the NRL coaches. As stated, the three coaches who are the best at cynical footy are, in order: Craig Bellamy, Trent Robinson, and now Ivan Cleary.

It has become hard to watch a top-of-the-table clash because you know you’re getting a different sort of game to a bottom eight game. But the fact remains that ‘cynical footy’ wins games, and then over the course of the year, premierships, in this current version of the NRL.

Does winning at any costs truly make you a winner?

Or am I just being cynical?

The Crowd Says:

2022-09-03T10:43:45+00:00

souvalis

Roar Rookie


We're talking about a narrative of the top 3 realistic chances of winning the comp (Sharks aren't there yet) and the pertinence of bending the rules is/ was to their victories. I'm not being critical of Penrith, rarely am, just stating as it is. They have 2 very hard men who go the extra inch to hurt opponents. I watch them every week, admire them, and recognize it as a necessary evil component of their, Roosters and Storm's success.

2022-09-03T08:01:45+00:00

Panthers

Guest


Talakai does a shoulder charge, virtually every big hit he does . Supposedly wraps an arm around in some of them. That’s pretty dangerous too. Players can have their face crushed in, like when Manu was hit last year.

2022-09-03T07:50:01+00:00

Panthers

Guest


I think you’re stretching it with that statement too. There’s absolutely no similarity between what those two Penrith players have supposedly done , compared to JWH & NAP. Plenty of crusher tackles going on in every game. Cronulla’s done them , just like any other team. Pretty close to spear tackles also. Many times the tackled players turning around in the tackle to pass the ball . Then exaggerates that he’s been caught in a crusher type tackle . Where there’s no avoiding some contact with the tackled players upper back, neck . If a tackle is to be completed. You don’t even have anything to say about Martin at all?

2022-09-03T07:17:09+00:00

souvalis

Roar Rookie


Spear and crusher tackles aren’t similar, yet have far worse potential outcomes..’dangerous’ _ has any player had his offence described as that more than Kikau ?

2022-09-03T06:42:52+00:00

Panthers

Guest


By self controlled versions, do you mean that they don’t break anybody’s jaw , or smash their teeth out & get away with it? As I don’t see the similarity? :laughing:

2022-09-03T05:54:26+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


I agree. Should either be a hand over or take the ball back 10 metres. That'll stop it.

2022-09-03T05:38:54+00:00

Ferret

Roar Rookie


My pet peeve is the attacking player walking off the mark or to the side to immediately put both markers offside and hence and easy 10 metres up the guts. Very few refs call for them to go back and play it where they were tackled and those that do, only doit once or twice a game. 99 times out of 100 the ref pings the defender so it's very good odds for a cynical play. Another one is the attacker holding the defender in. Now with only 1 ref it's much easier to draw a penalty for this. Not singling out anyone as all sides do it.

2022-09-03T05:34:57+00:00

Ferret

Roar Rookie


The Storm didn't event "the ref will blink first" tactic, Warren Ryan did that at the Bulldogs in the '80s with their defence. Be offside and the ref will penalise the first couple of times and then put the whistle away so you get a free go for the rest of the game. This was aided by commentators who fell in love with the "a game with very few penalties is a good game and hence good refereeing."

2022-09-03T03:28:19+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


Penrith and the Roosters were very happy indeed to give away a 6 again on a kick chase. they held down forever, knowing the cost was one extra tackle, while the benefit was a set defensive line ready to rush up and pin their opposition in their own 20. Has the rule change this year stopped that practice? I'm not sure, there still seems to be a dare on the refs to penalise them on the first tackle.

2022-09-03T03:25:39+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


I thought overstepping the mark was copyrighted by James Tedesco.

2022-09-03T01:18:40+00:00

souvalis

Roar Rookie


What happens I wonder to those overall ruck speeds when players feel they’ve been infringed and dawdle to their feet, or in protecting a lead near the end of a half almost force the ref to blow time out on them.. as just 2 off the top examples. Penrith, good luck to them, have tacticians more cunning than any Fox in any hen house in slowing things down, protecting their kickers and stealthy slyness around scrums.. Martin and Kikau are merely more self controlled versions of JWH and NAS.

2022-09-03T00:34:02+00:00

Dutski

Roar Guru


Good on you Dan. As a Roosters fan I want to say you’re wrong, but the Bondi Wall was very happy to concede penalties and reset. No doubt about it. I don’t know if the Panthers are cynical - tactically they meet ruck speed with line speed and if they get pinged going early that’s the cost of line speed at all costs. Is that cynical? It certainly relies on fitness plus as Panthers said. The Storm are the best at slowing the ruck and have been forever, but the last game I saw people blowing up about ruck speed there was 0.1 seconds difference according to NRL.com. I’m not sure that’s going to make a meaningful difference.

2022-09-02T23:37:52+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Great first article Dan. Welcome to the jungle.

2022-09-02T23:24:20+00:00

Panthers

Guest


I think the Panthers just got fitter . Actually put in an effort in defence from 2020 until now. They were first to the punch in 2020, playing an up tempo game . With the 6 again rules. So the NRL has now changed it , to bring them down a notch. No sure things to win any Premiership . A few teams can win it. The players not being available at different times especially late in the season will also help other teams . You missed Mr. Cynical on the field himself. Moses at Parramatta . Not the coaching staff there, but always looking to take a dive to gain a penalty. To find anyone to run into when in defence, to again take a dive. Then , he really uses his head when tackling, as we saw the other night. Add him to Solomona, Kaufusi, JWH, Mitchell, Radley I suppose with those things. They are all cynical in how they defend.

2022-09-02T23:16:03+00:00

Where are the Clowns

Guest


As I recall there was an origin game that was adjudicated correctly a few years ago ( 2014 maybe ) , and QLD were on the back end of a massive penalty count. If only these Clowns had the games best interests at heart .

2022-09-02T23:13:04+00:00

Where are the Clowns

Guest


Watching the Roosters play the storm last week and the rabbits last night , the ruck slowing tactics of the storm became so obvious. Almost every play of the ball there is a hand somewhere it isn't ( according to the rules ) allowed to be and as the game went on it seemed to be more prolonged and more obvious. They also tended to overstep the play of the ball area by up to two metres at times, and don't get me started on forward passes. Bellamy certainly has a suck it n see boys approach. The Roosters are no saints, but the storm are next level at pushing boundaries.

2022-09-02T22:12:47+00:00

Watda

Guest


Yep…you are definitely being cynical…

2022-09-02T21:59:39+00:00

jimmmy

Roar Rookie


Broadly speaking I agree with your points. The Storm have a mantra ' the Ref will blink first'. It's a mantra that has proved enormously successful. But why wouldn't other clubs copy this ? Winning is the reward . The solution has always been to enforce the rules . In 2018 the NRL had enough of BS in the ruck and cracked down . This resulted in one of greatest ( and most enjoyable) game of RL I have ever seen . Sharks 14 - Storm 4. 33 penalties ! What a game . They enforced the rules !!!!!! Then the Refs blinked.

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