MICHAEL HAGAN: Cleary and Grant’s instant on-field chemistry reminds me of Thurston and Smith combination

By Michael Hagan / Expert

Nathan Cleary and Harry Grant pairing up at the Kangaroos reminds me of another couple of young stars nearly two decades ago who seemed to have instant on-field chemistry.

Just like Johnathan Thurston and Cameron Smith when they teamed up together at Origin level with Queensland in 2005 and then with Australia a year later, Cleary and Grant have got the chance to forge a similar combination as Australia’s long-term halfback and hooker combination. 

Smith and Thurston barely missed a match for the Maroons and Australia for more than a decade and I can see this current pair having a long, successful career for the Kangaroos.

We thought Cleary would work well with Cameron Munster in the halves and he’s got a ton of experience linking with Isaah Yeo at lock for the Panthers and the Blues and he’s also played plenty of footy with James Tedesco at fullback for NSW. 

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But it’s been really surprising is how well he worked in synch with Grant in the big win over Scotland in the group stage and they will get their chance to do that again with Harry likely to play most of the match, if not the full 80 minutes, against Lebanon with Ben Hunt having a rest before the semis. 

Kangaroos legends Johnathan Thurston and Cameron Smith after winning the 2013 World Cup in England. (Photo by Alex Livesey/Getty Images)

In game situations and at training, they look like they’ve been playing together for years at this World Cup even though they come from different NRL clubs – Penrith and Melbourne – and are opponents when it comes time for State of Origin. 

They’ve got the pedigree and you can just tell when blokes come together and they become good mates really quickly that they’re on the same wavelength.

Hunt and Daly Cherry-Evans, as the senior players in their position, have already had a really positive influence over them and will continue to keep them on their toes not just in this tour but over the next couple of years at least.

It was an extremely tough choice for Mal Meninga to pick Cleary ahead of Cherry-Evans for this weekend’s quarter-final against the Cedars. 

Mal said it reminded him of the Steve Mortimer vs Peter Sterling battle on the 1982 Kangaroo Tour and Ricky Stuart vs Allan Langer eight years later.

Back then those players drove each other to bring out their very best and that’s what’s happened this time around.

(Photo by Jan Kruger/Getty Images for RLWC)

They’ve both come up with plenty of line break and try assists, their defence has been strong, they’ve been talking well on the field to direct the team around and they have quality kicking games. We really couldn’t go wrong either way. 

Mal’s mindful of the prestige of being the Kangaroos halfback and may want DCE to have a role to play for the rest of the tournament.

Cleary’s like everyone else – he’s got to maintain his high standards. Everyone who’s not in the 17 this week knows they’re only one poor performance or any injury away from getting recalled to get a job done. 

They’re all in the selection conversation for the next couple of weeks.

(Photo by James Gill – Danehouse/Getty Images)

Cleary has clearly got top-notch credentials having been Penrith’s halfback for back-to-back premierships and performing well for NSW over the past few years.

While we respect the Lebanese team and won’t be taking them lightly, we have one eye on the game next week and making sure everyone is right for that clash with what’s likely to be the Kiwis, assuming they also win their quarter-final against Fiji. 

Reagan Campbell-Gillard is out this week with a corked thigh but he’s the kind of big body type we’re going to need against New Zealand along with Pat Carrigan, Tino Fa’asuamaleaui and Lindsay Collins coming up against some monsters in Nelson Asofa-Solomona, Joe Tapine, Jesse Bromwich and Jared Waerea-Hargreaves. 

(Photo by Jan Kruger/Getty Images for RLWC)

We need to be mindful of the kind of team we need to play against the Kiwis and also give the combinations a chance to get more game time together, such as Jack Wighton and Valentine Holmes on the right edge, mixing in with Cleary and Liam Martin. 

The old cliche is you’ve got to take it one game at a time but we’ve got one eye on this week and one on the next. 

It’s probably flown under the radar a bit but this is the least-experienced Kangaroos team for a long time.

From the team that will run out in the quarters, there’s only two guys who have played 10 or more Tests – DCE on the bench with 17 and Valentine Holmes on the wing, who’s now up to 16.

If you look at the side that won the last World Cup in Brisbane in 2017, we had Test match experience across the board. 

Cameron Smith, Billy Slater, Cooper Cronk, Josh McGuire, Aaron Woods, Matt Gillett, Boyd Cordner and Tyson Frizell were all in double figures for Tests under their belt by the time Australia beat England in the final. And in the case of the first three, 30 or more games in the green and gold each.

It’s a unique set of circumstances for this squad given that we didn’t play Test footy for the best part of three years because of the COVID-19 pandemic so we’ve relied on players with big-match experience from Origin and NRL finals games instead. 

(Photo by Michael Steele/Getty Images)

Even though most of the current Kangaroos team only have a handful of Tests each, a lot of them have at least three or four Origin series on their resume. 

The only member of our squad who hasn’t played Origin is Campbell Graham and he’s been one of our best, especially last weekend when we beat Italy 66-6. 

Graham, Cameron Murray and Isaah Yeo were probably our most impactful three players. Yeo’s link work at lock means he’s getting the starting lock spot for the quarters but Murray played strongly as well, getting more minutes than we had planned due to RCG’s injury but he will be important for us in these next few knockout fixtures.

Even though the scoreline says it wasn’t a close game, the match against Italy was great for us to get some competitive footy. 

They were quite willing and physical for the full 80 minutes when a few of the other minnow nations last weekend fell away badly in the second half of their games in some huge blowout results. 

The Italians tried a few trick shots and we’re expecting to see Lebanon come up with some unorthodox tactics against us.

They’ve been going with short kick-offs and drop-outs, Adam Doueihi came up with a 40-20, Mitchell Moses kicked for Josh Mansour on play three in good-ball. 

We’ve only given up two tries from kicks so far so we’re very happy with how our defence is shaping up as we get towards the business end of the tournament. 

Kangaroos team to face Lebanon on Friday night (Saturday 5.30am AEDT)

1 James Tedesco (c)
9 Josh Addo-Carr
13 Patrick Carrigan
2 Daly Cherry-Evans
14 Nathan Cleary
15 Lindsay Collins
17 Angus Crichton
18 Tino Fa’asuamaleaui
19 Campbell Graham
20 Harry Grant
4 Valentine Holmes
21 Liam Martin
8 Latrell Mitchell
7 Cameron Munster
11 Cameron Murray
16 Reuben Cotter
5 Jake Trbojevic
10 Jack Wighton
24 Isaah Yeo

The Crowd Says:

2022-11-04T18:54:01+00:00

JennyFromPenny

Guest


Really hope you weren't trying to type Albino. That's not a race. It's a medical condition, and Dom Young is not in remission.

2022-11-04T18:45:00+00:00

JennyFromPenny

Guest


So here we are at the eleventh hour, and the NRL site says I'm wrong on both counts. Cherry Evans will start from the bench. We were told the 7 (as in half back jersey) was Cleary's. Yet we continue to see trial-game into the quarter finals. This is just outrageous. Mal needs to stand up and lead this team instead of kowtow-ing to the QRL and their insecurities about half-back depth, both now, and into the future. Hages, this is just a joke. You can't offer the 7 to Cleary, undoubtedly future Kangaroo captain, and no sooner, undermine him by saying the next time you knock-on, or miss a tackle, we are hooking you from the field. Else, even though you may dominate the game, we are not letting you hear the full-time whistle in your Australian jersey. If you want to give him an early shower, you already have Wighton. But where we start with Campbell Graham on the wing ? He is no faster than JWHFFS. How do you finish off backline moves with someone that lacks individual brilliance. Not to say, he's not an effective centre and a solid defender but he lacks genuine ability to create on his own. You have genuine wingers in the squad, Mal. This isn't a group of 24 players that screams out, you need to play anyone out of position, and Graham doesn't scream out as that player, that you just need to fit in somewhere. He is just not. PS- 4 forwards out of 6, NSW. 5 backs out of 7, NSW. Can we please ask Mal on behalf of Sheek, what happened to the selection trials back in Winter ? Or can you at least just clarify once and for all for the poor old battler, that Origin is just the State title, best 17 raised in each State, and nothing ..to ..do.. with ..National..selection.

2022-11-04T06:35:36+00:00

JennyFromPenny

Guest


What's incredulous, is thinking that Samoa, Tonga, Fiji and the Cook Islands are all parts of New Zealand.

2022-11-04T06:31:38+00:00

JennyFromPenny

Guest


Cherry-Evans will be next to drop off the list. Any strategy that uses up an interchange by having a half on the bench spells disaster. Ask Brad Arthur. Graham will be the other to miss out. Has played well on tour against the minors, but has had no real rep jersey to show that he is ready. Has played some big finals, but no big game moments come to mind. 19 will be the true number for him here. They got his number right.

2022-11-03T23:16:11+00:00

JennyFromPenny

Guest


At an average age of 65, I think they would struggle.

2022-11-03T21:40:57+00:00

JennyFromPenny

Guest


..when they v England & NZ the latter the side that will secure the World Cup. There is no way this can happen, Republican. For Australia to play England, the Kiwis must already have bowed out.

2022-11-03T21:04:32+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


Don't feel sorry for him he's going to be chilling with the druids and watching the finals on a 100 inch scrying pool whilst the Albion giants literally dismember the Kangaroos.

2022-11-03T13:44:28+00:00

JennyFromPenny

Guest


Republican talking Australia down. I guess that's why we aren't one.

2022-11-03T12:41:28+00:00

Ben Pobjie

Expert


Just thinking about how the 1982 Kangaroos would’ve gone against Lebanon…

2022-11-03T10:53:59+00:00

Cam

Roar Rookie


I am sure there have been plenty of elite-level players who were below average when shifting sides. Crichton springs to mind, having been completely ineffective on the right edge a couple of seasons back. Who else failed when shifting edges/sides?

2022-11-03T03:44:15+00:00

Dumbo

Roar Rookie


...and that was probably as unpopular as today's messing around by Mal.

2022-11-03T02:52:06+00:00

KenW

Roar Rookie


I just find it incredulous how much of Aust sports conversations in codes we have traditionally excelled in are so self assured as if time has stood still over recent decades. Well this is an article from a coach on the staff of the Aussie team, writing on Aussie sports site - so yeah, it's pretty focussed on the Aussies. To your broader point, it would be great if England and NZ were regularly trading wins with Australia, and were genuine favourites in any tournament. The problem is that it hasn't happened in our lifetimes. Over the last couple of decades where time hasn't stood still, NZ have continued to lose 5 games for every 1 time they win against the Aussies. If they're going to dominate the code for the foreseeable future they'll have to do something about that.

2022-11-03T02:50:15+00:00

eagleJack

Roar Guru


Woah I gave Republican the benefit of the doubt and assumed it was just auto-correct! I now feel sorry for the guy.

2022-11-03T02:44:02+00:00

eagleJack

Roar Guru


Who is "talking up" the Aussies? We are simply discussing the make-up of the team. We all know the real comp starts in the semi-finals. That's not just the Aussies talking, but the Kiwis and Poms too. You speak as though they have come up against top opposition to date? But to be fair I do realise you are an insignificant little tr oll who has posted this stuff before. Now I'm assuming, given how certain you are about the WC result, that you have re-mortgaged your house and put it all on NZ at $6.00 then? Think of what you can do with all that money, perhaps you can spend it on getting a life. Just a thought.

2022-11-03T02:41:06+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


Well talking up Albion would be odd given it's 2022 and not a UK team.

2022-11-03T02:04:54+00:00

Republican

Guest


Don't hear too much talking up either Albion or NZ here. I just find it incredulous how much of Aust sports conversations in codes we have traditionally excelled in are so self assured as if time has stood still over recent decades. Its the same with the T20 Cricket currently. The hubris is breathtaking and only now are the Aust faithful coming to terms with the reality that our status in this version of the game is underwhelming to say the least. England & NZ will prove my point in the League as well - the latter being a small nation with a culturally smaller affinity for the game but despite this they are set to dominate in this code for the foreseeable future.

2022-11-03T01:55:39+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


"While we respect the Lebanese team and won’t be taking them lightly, we have one eye on the game next week..." I know Lebanon are a standard below, but I can't help but think of the 1996 preliminary final where North Sydney named Brett Dallas, returning from injury, on the bench in the hope he'd be good to start in the grand final. The threat of St George taking their spot instead must not have crossed their minds.

2022-11-03T01:50:44+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


Except for the times they didn't, like on at least one Kangaroo tour where the two fullbacks in the squad were given numbers 1 and 2, the wingers 3, 4, 5, and 6, and Reg Gasnier got the 7 jersey.

2022-11-03T01:25:14+00:00

eagleJack

Roar Guru


Aaah yes how dare we talk about the potential make up of the Australian side. You apparently can only do that after being pitted against worthy opposition. Especially when compared to the English & Kiwis who have had some extremely tough opponents to date.

2022-11-03T01:17:15+00:00

Republican

Guest


A tad premature to be talking up any aspects of the Australian side. They haven't been pitted against any worthy opposition yet. Be prepared to be brought down to earth when they v England & NZ the latter the side that will secure the World Cup.

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