Mitchell Moses and co need to give it a rest

By Tony / Roar Guru

I must be finally mellowing with age, as after four rounds of the competition, I’m really enjoying the footy and most of the annoying things about the game aren’t getting to me like they once did.

I seem to be tolerating the Fox commentary team, including Andrew Voss and Michael Ennis, the Dragons only have themselves to blame for their current predicament, and even the referees and the bunker hasn’t bugged me greatly so far. Strange days indeed!

I did say most things though, and the one thing that remains really annoying, and a blight on the game, is the way that players openly challenge nearly every refereeing decision, and run at the referee with their arms and jaws flapping at every opportunity.

Now I know from personal experience that refereeing isn’t an easy gig at the best of times, but having multiple players in the referee’s face seemingly every time they make a decision that someone doesn’t like is not only a bad look for the game, but unnecessarily increases the pressure that the whistle blowers are under.

It seems that every club these days has their own designated band of whingers these days. There are far too many to name here, but the likes of Parramatta’s Mitch Moses and Clint Gutherson are perfect examples of players who have elevated whingeing to an artform.

If the distance they both ran to get in front of the referee every time a decision doesn’t go Parramatta’s way was included in their yardage stats, they’d each easily be up over 350 metres every week.

If their arm flapping was included in the VB hard earned index they’d be off the scale, and 110% would indeed become the new 100%.

Sure, the GOAT Cameron Smith spent almost as much time refereeing the games he played in as running the football, but he did it subtly, without much fanfare, and consistently got away with it without either making a spectacle of himself or upsetting the referees.

To be honest, I think the referees were happy to have his input.

Once upon a time referees were treated with respect, and their decisions were rarely questioned by the rank and file. A captain might have quietly asked for clarification of a decision now and then, but the whistle blowers certainly weren’t assailed by half a dozen players every time they made a decision.

If a player did run at a referee and got in his face, he and his team were likely to regret it.

(Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

So how did we get to this?

Well, I blame both the increasing over-familiarity between referees and players and the captain’s challenge.

These days the referee spends so much time calling players by their first name, letting them know they’re offside, in front of the kicker, the scrum’s over, their hair’s messed up, and what to do and where to stand at almost every break-down, that the players must think that the guy with the whistle is just another part of their coaching staff rather than the game’s adjudicator.

I’d be happier if the referees just adjudicated the game, not coach the players, and if a team believes that the referee has made an error, the captain, and only the captain, should be permitted to respectfully challenge the decision, providing they have any challenges left.

If not, get on with the game or suffer the consequences. Any other player hassling the referee or mouthing off their dissatisfaction should be penalised.

Is it just me or does anyone else find this behaviour intolerable?

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2023-04-04T03:05:23+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Vossy must be wearing a crash helmet then

2023-04-04T02:03:58+00:00

Artesia

Roar Rookie


Apparently not. I suspect Mick Ennis is still doing it from the comfort of the commentary box to this day...

AUTHOR

2023-04-03T08:26:15+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Mr Luai is the most likely, but not in Moses' class

AUTHOR

2023-04-03T08:24:47+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Is there any known cure doctor?

AUTHOR

2023-04-03T08:24:06+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Yes mare, I've noticed that happen a few times this year as well.

2023-04-03T07:16:14+00:00

Panthers

Roar Rookie


By the way. As far as this subject is concerned. Despite my obvious bias! Yeo as co captain rarely questions any refereeing decisions. Don’t notice Nathan Cleary questioning too many either ! Go so far as to say they are 2 of the best non questioners of referees decisions in the game. Cleary does like to walk off talking to the ref at halftime, but so do the captains of the clubs they are playing on any particular day. :thumbup:

2023-04-03T07:05:50+00:00

Panthers

Roar Rookie


Sure do! I think you’re continuing with your biased opinion against the Panthers. However, Best never lost the ball & always had his hand on it.

2023-04-03T06:58:13+00:00

Panthers

Roar Rookie


I agree with you Tony. The questioning of decisions is over the top. One thing from the refereeing this season that has really annoyed me though . The downfield offside players making tackles . Well before any player has run the ball back the required 10 metres , that they are supposed to be able to do , without being tackled. ( Given they hadn’t first passed the ball ). It used to be a rule that was well policed. Now they don’t even look at it at all.

2023-04-03T02:48:22+00:00

Artesia

Roar Rookie


We refer to that as 'Mick Ennis Puppet Arm Syndrome' . So named because Ennis was the master of the flailing arms. It's rife in the NRL and Moses and Gutherson have particularly severe cases.

AUTHOR

2023-04-02T22:30:18+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Brilliant. Rugby league refs should take a leaf out of his book.

AUTHOR

2023-04-02T22:27:30+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Great stuff Kent. He's totally unflappable. :happy:

2023-04-02T21:47:33+00:00

Kent Dorfman

Roar Rookie


this is what the officials need to say in RL when the players start yelling & shouting at the Ref https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXoBNFOxlQM

2023-04-02T21:43:37+00:00

Kent Dorfman

Roar Rookie


you know you're in strife when your mum calls you by your full name)) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAx9nJPYTss

AUTHOR

2023-04-02T11:50:44+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


I don't remember that particular incident, but I loved the fact he was always in control, and did it with good humour :happy:

2023-04-02T10:12:46+00:00

Kent Dorfman

Roar Rookie


love when he was reffing the Poms & Robshaw comes up for a chat - all you here is "Christopher!" - "sorry Sir" and end of backchat

AUTHOR

2023-04-02T09:11:50+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Yes, love Owen's work. He's the standard all referees should aspire to.

2023-04-02T07:19:05+00:00

Kent Dorfman

Roar Rookie


well I haven't mellowed as I still hate Ennis - couldn't stand him when he was a grub player, and cannot stand him as a commentator. Think the ref's need to stop being mates by calling players by their names - get back to the good old practice of calling them by their number. Maybe the refs also need to get more assertive to the back chat - just look on youtyoob at some Nigel Owen classics and how he was respected. If any player backchats - march them back 10, they'll shut up quick smart. to quote Nigel "I don't think we've met before, but I'm the referee"

2023-04-02T04:57:54+00:00

Big Daddy

Roar Rookie


Just picking up little tir bits today . 1 Sam Backo – heart attack at 62, 2 – mentioned yesterday East’s reserves playing North’s at Wentworth Park – now at Hills Grammar School Kenthurst – don’t these clubs have home grounds any more and back to the origin of this conversation- I believe if you flap your arms at the umpire in AFL it’s an automatic penalty- sheesh . And for John Allan – East’s have flogged Momoroski off to North Sydney.

2023-04-02T04:24:30+00:00

Big Daddy

Roar Rookie


Tom, very inappropriate- Uncle Doug had a certain style obviously which a few on this site did appreciate . Ron E Sparx was another from that era . Closest to him these days is Jonesy and Amanda .

AUTHOR

2023-04-02T04:09:38+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Comparing Sandilands to Mulray is like comparing Ennis to Frank Hyde

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