Sticking it to the mother country: England can beat Australia at rugby and football ... but what about every other sport?

By Chris Lewis / Roar Guru

Given England’s recent 3-1 semi-final victory over Australia at the Women’s World Cup, along with many recent rugby union defeats of Australia by England since 2016, just how do these great sporting rivals stack up against each other across all sport?

With so many sports that Aussies and English play and watch, how best to assess this question, which is made more difficult by England playing as part of Great Britain (GB) in so many sports (along with Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish) as they try to qualify for the Olympics?

The ‘Greatest sporting nation’ website has Australia ahead of GB in 2023 in gross and per capita terms as a top ten nation, although GB finished ahead of Australia in 2022 in aggregate terms and may again do so by the end of the year.

Obviously some sports are indeed harder to excel at than others, notably football and running where many countries compete (rich and poor), while both Australia and GB continue to do well in international sporting events which require vast financial resources such as cycling, swimming and rowing.

But let’s looks beyond the major sports to compare the Australian and English sporting performance in many sports, based on the most recent major championships and events.

May the games begin…

OG = Olympic Games, WC = World Championships

Alpine skiing

Not much world success here for Australia or England. In the mens, GB’s Dave Ryding finished 13th in the slalom at the 2022 OG while Australia’s Louis Muhlen-Schulte came 23rd in the giant slalom. Australia’s Greta Small placed highest with 13th in the combined event.

Archery

Both Australia and GB did not medal at the 2021 OG, but the British finished ahead in both male and female events.

Athletics

While Australia won more gold medals (2 to 1) than GB at the 2022 World Championships, GB won the most medals (7 to 3). Only English runners won medals in the mens and womens races and I expect this to continue at the current 2023 WC.

Badminton

While GB has a better OG record than Australia over the many years (3 medals to 0), neither have a top 20 world player as of 15 August 2023. At the 2022 Commonwealth Games, England won 3 minor medals, Australia nil, so points to England (men and women).

Baseball

With GB ranked 20th and Australia 9th, the Aussies made the quarters finals of the 2023 World Baseball Classic.

Basketball

While GB hardly figures in international terms, Australia won bronze at the 2021 OG mens event, and bronze at the 2022 womens World Cup.

Bobsleigh

Even here. At the 2022 OG, best place in bobsleigh events for Australia and GB was 5th and 6th.

Boxing

The English have had quite a few world champions since 2020, including heavyweight Tyson Fury and Cruiserweights Lawrence Okolie and Chris Billam-Smith along with flyweight Sunny Edwards. In female boxing, both Aussies and English have many top ten world ranked fighters.

Tyson Fury (Photo by Alex Livesey/Getty Images)

Canoeing (racing and slalom)

At the 2021 OG Australia won two gold and a bronze while GB won a silver and bronze.
Close call, but Australia (both men and women) gets the points of the basis of gold medals (1 male and 1 female), although GB individual sprinters placed higher in some races.

Curling

GB here, no further comment.

Cross Country skiing

Neither Australia or GB are competitive in global terms.

Going on placings at the 2022 Winter OG, the GB men did better with Andrew Musgrave (17th in the 30km event), while Australia placed higher in a number of female events led by Jessica Yeaton.

Cycling (Track)

At the 2023 WC, GB dominated Australia (9 medals to 7), including 5 gold to Australia’s zero.

Cycling (Road)

On the road, based on the 2023 Tour of France and the latest UCI rankings, England has the Yates brothers finishing ahead of Australia’s Jai Hindley with all three top ten. At the 2023 WC, GB also won a bronze for the mens time trial.
Australia gets the points for the females with Australia’s Grace Brown winning silver for the 2023 WC time trial and currently leading the Brits in the world rankings.

Cycling (other)

GB also did much better than Australia in both the mens and women races for mountain bikes at the 2023 WC winning several medals to Australia’s nil. At the last two world championships GB also won 1 gold (womens) and 1 silver (mens) at the BMX races.

Cricket

The biggest summer sport of both countries.

While the Ashes between Australia and England finished 2-all, Australia gets the verdict in the mens game.
Australia just won the World Test championship, beating India in the final and currently lead the ODI rankings, while England is ahead in the T20 rankings after also winning the 2023 World Cup in Melbourne earlier in the year. In female cricket Australia is ranked number one, including T20 and ODI, with England second.

(Photo by Ryan Pierse/Getty Images)

Darts

Yes this is serious sport with 500,000 British pounds awarded to the 2022 world champion (England’s Michael Smith). No contest here, as 4 of the top 8 places were English.

Diving

At the 2023 WC, both Australia and GB won medals, but only Australia won an individual gold to prevent a Chinese sweep of gold medals. Even here.

Figure skating

Based on 2022 OG, not much difference between them.

Football

The most important sport to England (and the world), and the largest team sport in Australia in terms of participation. Hopefully we can beat England at Wembley later in the year when our men play there, but for now England takes the points in both the men and women given their higher world rankings and recent World Cup performances.

Freestyle skiing

Men even, yet Australia’s women won a gold medal at the 2022 OG in the moguls (Jakara Anthony).
Equestrian events. Based on 2021 OG results, GB gets the verdict here for men and women, despite both sexes competing in the same events. GB won more medals (5 to 2) and golds (2 to 0).

Golf

England and Australia have a number of players in the top 100 for both men and women. Since 2020, England and Australia have won 1 major each through Cameron Smith and Matt Fitzpatrick, both ranked 9th and 10th 2022, but England has more depth with greater numbers in the top 15. Of the females, Australia gets the nod with the 2022 Rolex World rankings placing Australia’s Minjee Lee 4th, England’s Charley Hull 17th, and Australia’s Hannah Green 19th.

Minjee Lee (Photo by David Cannon/Getty Images)

Gymnastics

At the 2022 WC, GB won 6 medals (2 golds) and Australia zero. Easy points here for England’s men and women in this big OG sport.

Hockey (Field)

With both Australia and GB currently rank in the top 6 for men and women, hard to separate them. Australia’s men and women finished ahead of GB in recent World Cups when 4th at the 2023 World Cup and 3rd in 2022, but GB did better at the 2021 OG winning bronzes for both genders.

Ice hockey

Not a big sport in either country. GB ranks higher in the men (20 to 35) and Australia higher in the womens.

Judo

Both struggle at the global level. However at the 2022 Commonwealth Games, England dominated Australia in the males, whereas competition between them was even in the female weight classes.

Karate

In the 2021 OG, Australia had 1 competitor and GB zero. In the current world rankings, Australia’s females have higher ranked competitors in the different weight classes, but the men are more even.

Lawn bowls

Going on the most recent WC in 2016, Australia finished ahead of England in the male and female events but England won more medals at the 2022 Commonwealth Games. Tie here.

Luge

At the 2022 OG, Australia’s male competitor finished higher (16th to 23rd).

Motor car racing

Too many related sports to mention, but England has done better at Formula One in recent years, with Lewis Hamilton winning the 2020 WC.

Moto GP

Australia’s Jack Miller was 5th in 2022 and is doing well in 2023, so rate that form ahead of the GB riders doing better than Australia currently on the Superbikes.

Netball

Australia defeated England in the 2023 WC final.

Rowing

Again both Australia and GB do well, but it is GB that did much better than Australia at the 2022 WC winning more medals including 3 gold medals to nil in the able-bodied events.

Rugby League

Australia continues to have England’s measure again winning the most recent World Cups, both men and women.

(Photo by David Davies/PA Images via Getty Images)

Rugby Sevens

Based on the 2022-23 season, Australia gets the points here with their men finishing ahead of GB (5th to 9th) and the women (2nd to 7th).

Rugby Union

England is currently ranked ahead of Australia in both the mens and women’s games, and has finished ahead of Australia in the most recent World Cups.

Shooting

With only GB winning a bronze medal at the 2021 OG, the latest 2023 world rankings give GB a very slight lead (men and women) in terms of top 10 rankings for the different weapons, so will score it even.

Skateboarding

A relatively new OG sport, Australia did better at 2021 OG in the male events (1 gold) with GB more successful in the female events (1 bronze).

Skeleton

Based on 2022 OG, GB placed higher in the mens competition and Australia won silver win the women’s event.

Snooker

While Australia has Neil Roberston, currently ranked 7th in the world in terms of earnings, England has five of the top ten players. Since Roberston won the WC in 2010, England has won 10 WC and 3 of the last 4.

Snowboarding

Australia wins both men and women, including 2022 OG silver and bronze medals for the men and women.

Softball

Australia gets the verdict here as a regular top 4 nation, finishing 4th at the 2022 WC.

Speed skating (long and short course)

Neither Australia or GB had success at the 2022 OG, but it was only GB which had significant representation in terms of participants.

Speedway

2023 rankings have Australian riders ranked higher in top 10 with Doyle and Holder ahead of England’s Bewley, Lambert and Woffinden, but the 2022 WC saw England finish 5th and 6th with Lambert and Bewley placing higher than the Aussies. Even here.

Squash

Whereas Australia once has some of the greatest squash players a few decades ago, no Australian is currently ranked in the top 50 for the men or women while England has many, including three top 10 players (2 male and 1 female).

Surfing

Australia continues to do well in global terms with 3 in the top ten for both men and women during the current 2023 season.

Swimming (pool and ocean)

No contest. At the 2023 WC, Australia did much better than GB in terms of medals won, finishing second to the US.

Table tennis

Australia has Nicholas Lum, currently ranked 35th in the world. England has no player in the top 100
Australia also has two women ranked in top 40. Points to Australia.

Taekwondo

Australia has two top 25 male rankings through Bailey Lewis (58kg) and Leon Sejranovic (80kg), but GB has the number 1 ranked Bradly Sinden (68kg) and number 6 Caden Cunningham (80kg+). In the females, GB also has the 3rd ranked Jade Jones (57kg) and Bianca Cook 3rd (67+kg). At the 2021 OG, both the GB men and women medalled.

Tennis

I give points to Australia (both men and women). While GB’s Cameron Norrie was ranked 14th in 2022, ahead of Nick Kyrgios 22nd and Australia Alex De Minaur 24th, only Kyrigos has been a grand slam threat with runner up at Wimbledon (2022). In the womens, Australia’s Ash Barty (now retired) won Wimbledon (2021), the Australian Open (2022) and achieved the number 1 ranking.

Alex de Minaur. (Photo by Quinn Rooney/Getty Images)

Triathlon

Here England gets the points with much higher ranked athletes in both the mens and women 2022 world series, as well the mixed team efforts. Both Alex Yee and Georgia Taylor-Brown (England) won silver medals at the 2021 Tokyo OG.

Water Polo

Australia consistently makes the OG and WC draw in both men and women, and GB does not. Its women finished 5th at the 2021 OG and 4th at the 2023 WC, while its men finished 9th and 10th.

Weightlifting

At the 2022 WC, both Australia or GB won a silver for the total weight lifted in the womens (87Kg and 87kg+).
In overall points terms at the 2022 WC, GB finished 23rd and Australia 29th. At the 2022 Commonwealth Games, England won 5 medals (3 gold) and Australia 4 (1 gold), so slight lead to England (men and women).

Wrestling

Neither Australia or GB figure at the global level. At the 2022 WC, Australia had two competitors and GB none. Neither nation had a wrestler at the 2021 OG. But at the 2022 Commonwealth Games, England won 3 medals, and Australia 2, so even stevens here.

UFC

Here I give the points to Australia’s men and women with more top 15 fighters in the different weight divisions, with Australia’s Alexander Volkanovski ranked number 1 of all divisions in the men with England’s Leon Edwards 4th.

Volleyball (Indoor and beach)

Neither Australia or GB qualified for the 2021 OG indoor competition, hardly surprising given neither have ever been a world power, but Australia did better at beach volleyball winning silver in the women’s event.

Yachting

Both Australia and GB are successful yachting nations. At the 2021 OG, GB won more medals (5 to 2) and golds (3 to 2).

Conclusion

There are a lot of sports in which Australia and England do well in global terms. There are also a lot of sports where neither are much good at, although they still generate some interest from the English and Australians as participants and spectators.

In terms of the many sports mentioned in this article, England comes out on top in the men comfortably, whereas Australia’s women succeed in more sports than their English rivals.

But given England’s vastly larger population (57 million to Australia’s 25 million), and GB’s representation aided by Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish participation in many sports, let’s call it even.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2023-08-31T08:06:30+00:00

Chris Lewis

Roar Guru


yes, of the english and aussie runners, which article focuses on, only english won medals. Correct. Do i have class, probably not. Thanks for reading, and i will keep writing.

2023-08-31T08:00:10+00:00

stu

Roar Rookie


I should respond to your post which honestly lacks class. Let me just highlight a simple example which I hope you can concentrate on. Your quote below.... 'While Australia won more gold medals (2 to 1) than GB at the 2022 World Championships, GB won the most medals (7 to 3). Only English runners won medals in the mens and womens races and I expect this to continue at the current 2023 WC.' To the above claim that only English runners won the medals in mens/womens competition I advise that this is false in my response. You don't need to cloud this statement with abuse and other claims I am supposed to have made. For example, nowhere in my comments did I claim Australian runners are better than GB runners. I must admit, you have no class in the way you try to debate an issue. You may want to think how you address those with an other opinion, which I think these pages are supposed to be about.

AUTHOR

2023-08-30T22:21:24+00:00

Chris Lewis

Roar Guru


you should re-read it too know all, i clearly stated problem of GB multi-country issue at start. And you really do not know what you are talking about when suggesting that English runners are not better than Australia. I loved critical analysis of me efforts, but you don't really know what u r talking about, just a bigmouth.

2023-08-30T11:06:13+00:00

stu

Roar Rookie


Wow....I think you need to re-read your article. I will happily move on. All the best with your writing.

AUTHOR

2023-08-30T09:10:03+00:00

Chris Lewis

Roar Guru


Stu, i am shattered you will not read another piece by myself. Do you really want me to roll of the names of the English runners who win medals to prove my point? FMD, Hodginson was born in England and sounds English, so what planet do you live on?

2023-08-30T08:58:58+00:00

stu

Roar Rookie


Chris....I have only read one of your articles, this one. Not sure how many you have written, however credibility I think is key for the success of an opinion piece. The wording used in the article leads me to understand this is an Australia v England thing, yet GB figures are used often during the article. It took me about 30 seconds to note under 'Athletics' that you have stated only English athletes won mens/womens medals at the 2022 WC.....Laura Muir won bronze and is not English, Jake Wightman does not represent England, Keely Hodgenson is Scottish-American....There may well be others I am not aware off. Good luck with future articles, but they would need to be meaningful to make a reader return for more.

AUTHOR

2023-08-29T00:27:21+00:00

Chris Lewis

Roar Guru


No, I will not be requesting that. Thanks for reading.

AUTHOR

2023-08-27T20:38:00+00:00

Chris Lewis

Roar Guru


All good.

2023-08-27T09:51:20+00:00

DaveJ

Roar Rookie


Apologies for rough tone, Chris, interesting article nonetheless and well researched.

2023-08-27T09:49:34+00:00

DaveJ

Roar Rookie


Ok, add ice hockey as a serious sport. The rest of the argument, comparing supremacy in luge, skeleton or even cross country skiiing with basketball, hockey or volleyball is clearly ludicrous. Might as well compare them to the 100m hurdles, discus or 200m backstroke. But yes, winter sports are mostly wealthy sports confined to a minority of countries, all wealthy. Zero in Latin America, Africa, the Caribbean, Middle East and almost none in Asia and the Pacific. Little sense including them in comparing UK and Australia on a general basis.

2023-08-27T05:52:32+00:00

stu

Roar Rookie


The article does claim a comparison between Australia and England. A mention was made of the other countries involved in the GB figures. It would be polite to remove the emphasis on 'England' and re-word your article as Australia v GB. England is not GB.

2023-08-26T20:43:50+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


Finland was only overtaken by Australia at the Sydney Olympics per Gold Medals. In Summer Olympics!!! Finland has dropped out of supporting their teams financially many years ago; probably decades. Had they continued supporting their teams we'd still be behind them. And they've had a small, reasonably low growth population and they did it with a smaller, weaker Summer than us.

2023-08-26T20:38:50+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


You really do have a problem with Australian Football don't you? I love banter between sports but you come off bitter about it.

2023-08-25T11:03:36+00:00

Kangas

Roar Rookie


Insipid . Pretty sure they have some recent Tour de France winners and insipid does not describe Le tour. Regular Boxing champions , not insipid, lots of other non insipid sports

2023-08-25T04:09:19+00:00

Brainstrust

Roar Rookie


It was Greg Clarke who cast the vote. In this case voting for Colombia was quite ridiculous, Brazil is the only country in South America that could host a world cup solo at 32 teams. The question has to be asked though the Australian government, why didnt they attempt to use their influence. What about giving the French the submarine deal after the French were the main supporters of Qatar in the mens world cup bid.

2023-08-25T03:38:19+00:00

Brainstrust

Roar Rookie


USA has a broader range of climates than any European country along with the much bigger population. Australia did have the best climate for swimming amongst the wealthy countries who could afford leisure time and sport. You also have to look at land use, in the USA and Australia you had plentiful flat land available to new development, that helped in tennis particularly. East Germany were the breakthrough nation in Olympic sports first to look at selecting population for the sport they were most suited to rather training them from a young age, specialist sport schools and of course perfromance enhancing drugs. If your actually looking at who is the best sporting nation I would take any poor country over a wealthy country as the majority of their population is in superb physical condition. Being obsessed with the British and comparisons with them is a bit funny, because we have helped them out in so many ways, what about drug testing the evidence is that Great Britain has been using the system to their advantage and medical exemption loopholes. Great Britain organised the London Olympics so their athletes would have all the advantages. Australia built the Olympic village next door to the stadium and gave everyone rolls royce treatment.

2023-08-25T01:18:27+00:00

RayinSydney

Roar Rookie


I'd say as many as possible, if its just the main sports then its easy to work out, by all means use them as on a global scale both countries largely compete in the same sports , Hockey, Basketball, Softball, rugby etc but once you get into Olympic sports, rowing, kayaking, athletics etc it would show up some awesome results I reckon as the individuals come into it so you'd see some amazing results, i:e Aus always does well at the Winter Olympics but in the last one NZ did very well and overall has a better medal 'strike rate' than Aus, so for a sparsely populated country its quite amazing, and for Aus to hardly have snow, just as amazing. I think both countries would be very surprised just how many world champions they have at any one time

AUTHOR

2023-08-25T01:06:48+00:00

Chris Lewis

Roar Guru


do you think i should limit to the main sports we share, or do like I did here?

2023-08-25T01:02:16+00:00

Brainstrust

Roar Rookie


I am talking about stuff like in Melbourne they had the combo of the Lexus center and Olympic park for athletes from the Commonwealth Games. Collingwood took over Lexus center first and then they took over Olympic park. When it comes to facilities the AFL is there at all levels of government to grab the pie. The AFL the final 100m race they had for their players at their grand final the winner by a fair way was an amateur player and two foreign taxi drivers also made the final, the involvement of taxi drivers interesting as well . They need to have some sort of better incentive for athletics in this country before you worry about AFL media myths about their athleticism. The USA there is a low threshold to get a college scholarship , Britain has great support financially. Australia is way behind but is spending 10 times more on hosting events over time than its on the participants.

2023-08-25T00:07:44+00:00

RayinSydney

Roar Rookie


that would be interesting , I'd reckon they'd be similar , but the website you linked to says different, take out AFL and the spread of sports would be very even as we tend to compete in the same sports for both team and individual, apart from swimming where Aus smokes NZ.

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