'Mowing lawns': Fozzie reveals next job and future plans, explains 'toughest' selection call of career for RWC final

By Tony Harper / Editor

Ian Foster appeared more relaxed than ever before as he joked his way through his final press conference before his last game in charge of the All Blacks.

Foster’s fate was sealed earlier this year when New Zealand Rugby decided his journey in the revered job would end with the team’s last shots being fired in France. He revealed his next job after the tournament – mowing his lawns – but did promise his coaching career was going to continue.

He could bow out drenched in champagne rather than insults and vitriol, with the All Blacks one win over South Africa from lifting the Webb Ellis Cup for a record fourth time.

Foster was able to name a tough and experienced team for his final game and that of many of his key men. The All Blacks social media team dubbed it ”Last Dance 2023″ on their team announcement content – a nod to the Michael Jordan documentary about his final season with the Chicago Bulls.

He was asked on Friday (AEDT) if he was “at peace” with his situation – the type of question you might expect for a prisoner on death row.

“Am I at peace? What do you mean? Yeah, I’m reasonably peaceful. I love the word but I’m not sure I’m peaceful right now,” Foster answered.

“We are where we want to be. We may have lost to France at the start of this tournament but this team has thrived on focusing on the now. It’s something we’ve loved doing, it enables us to deal with any outside noise around the team.

“That’s massive credit to Sam [Cane] and the leaders that we’ve been able to stay in that place. We’ve woken up this week and we’re in a World Cup final and we’re excited. Right now we’re trying to balance the emotion of it, the messages we’re getting from back home and all around France – massive thanks to all the support we have had.

“But we are just focusing on playing a massive game with a smile on their face. We know there are two different styles. They’re great at their style, we’re great at ours.”

Head coach Ian Foster of the All Blacks runs through drills during a New Zealand training session ahead of their Rugby World Cup France 2023 Final match against South Africa at Stade du Parc on October 26, 2023 in Rueil-Malmaison, France. (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

The South African style is a forward power game and Springboks coaches Rassie Erasmus and Jacques Nienaber have leaned into that heavily by naming a forward pack with seven forwards and Willie le Roux as the sole backline specialist.

“It’s what I love about the game. People try different tactics,” Foster insisted. “They’ve got their way of playing and we’ve got ours. It doesn’t change the way we prepare. Their strategy suits them, ours suits us and it makes it interesting on Saturday night.”

Foster has opted for a 5-3 split and was again in a joking mood when asked if that was a reaction to the Springboks’ show of strength. The Boks used the 7-1 split in their match against New Zealand before the tournament, where the Kiwis were overwhelmed due to losing players through cards at key times.

“We doubled up with their split by just playing with 14 men, and then 13 men, for parts of that game,” Foster joked.

“We tried that clever strategy and decided we didn’t like it so we’re going to try a different strategy this week.”

Foster has suffered plenty of criticism over the past two years and he was asked about how tought that was for him to bear.

“I’ve just started to get my back nice and straight from last year and now you’re trying to make me hunched over again! It’s the life of this business, it’s a tough game,” he said.

“It’s tough when you’re trying to get your performance right. It’s a tough game when people around you see things differently, but we’ve learned a lot about ourselves. 

Jacques Nienaber, Head Coach of South Africa, and Ian Foster, Head Coach of New Zealand, speak at full-time following the Summer International match between New Zealand All Blacks v South Africa at Twickenham Stadium on August 25, 2023 in London, England. (Photo by Dan Mullan/Getty Images)

“We take massive pride in the jersey and making sure we reach the levels we want to. The rest of that is probably a conversation for another day.

“It hasn’t altered our vision of where we want this team to be. I know we’ve surprised a few people but I don’t think we’ve surprised ourselves.”

Foster gave the all clear for Richie Mounga despite reports back in NZ that the No.10 was carrying an injury. He also had to make the tough call to leave Dane Coles out – meaning the feisty hooker, who is retiring from rugby, has played his final game.

“Yeah, tough. We don’t want to talk too much about post-game stuff, but that was a tough one, probably the toughest I have had as a coach,” said Foster. “He took it the way I expected him to. He’s a champion.”

Foster too, could bow out a champion, despite all the words. He’ll no doubt have his suitors in the game – Japan seems the likeliest destination – and he seems relaxed about that too.

“I’ve got lots of ideas but first I’m going to mow my lawns. I will be coaching though, by the way.”

The Crowd Says:

2023-10-28T01:38:17+00:00

Jacko

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well you have your opinion and I have mine. I dont look down my nose at RM and his decision and I dont look down the nose at JKs decision. Each to their own. An "Order of Merit" Isnt NZs highest award its one of NZs highest awards.

2023-10-27T17:39:29+00:00

JD Kiwi

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I like the first one!

2023-10-27T13:38:15+00:00

TJ-Go Force!

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Hope you go out a winner Fozzie. Disgraceful how it was handled but you’ve come out the better man.

2023-10-27T07:58:11+00:00

JeffRo

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It would be great for Foster to go out on top. Stephen Donald was hated and ridiculed after the Hong Kong loss to the Wallabies a couple of years prior to the 2011 WC But after multiple injuries he played the WC final, played really well and became a national hero, Bever, the guy who got the call up while whitebaiting. So a win on Sunday, and the lasting memory of Foster will be, he won the big one, against the odds. Funny, fickle bunch we are, the rugby public.

2023-10-27T07:40:09+00:00

Good Game

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With the exception of 87, the eventual champions were only truly tested to the final whistle in one or (usually) two games per tournament.

2023-10-27T07:18:45+00:00

Good Game

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Getting our Schmidt Together The Kick II - The One That went Up the-you-know-what No Man is an Ireland: The Story of Getting Assistants

2023-10-27T05:17:57+00:00

El Flash

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Credit where credits due, he has done well at this RWC. However, Foster has in my opinion hung with players too long & his Test record shows it. One player that has been consistently cuddled is Beauden Barrett. Will Jordan week in, week out has proven how good a fullback can be yet Barrett has always been preferred. Shoe horning Jordan onto the wing merely appeases Foster critics whilst Barrett at 15 has fiddled for 2 years. The experiment with Reiko Ioane has also been a fail in my opinion. Again a right winger shoehorned into centre. It hasn't worked. Of course, Fosters supporters will say "but what about this RWC". To that I say "who have we actually beaten" ? We got belted by the Boks a week before the RWC, and a week later got manhandled by France. We then beat a handful of minnows to claw into the QF. We showed fortitude to beat Ireland, then beat a woeful Argentina. The reality is this AB side have fought to survive in this RWC no thanks to Foster. The old hands (incl Barrett) have held it together. Foster can take no credit for any of that.

2023-10-27T05:15:34+00:00

Muzzo

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Sir, Jacko??? Honestly do you really believe in that known Pom BS award?? Even Richie had the brains to turn it down, in favour of our highest award, the 'Order of NZ'.

2023-10-27T02:50:42+00:00

tuohyred

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Just imagine, wally at #7 with Loane at #8 and Tony Shaw at #6 doing the "dark arts" Not at #10 vs Mark - #12 maybe, but #7 in my fantasy team

2023-10-27T02:11:46+00:00

Muzzo

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Ah, Jacko, are you another that believes in this Pom award garbage? Do you remember McCaw? He actually turned it down, in favour of our highest award, the ' Order of NZ'.

2023-10-27T02:08:54+00:00

Muzzo

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TBH he was never good enough to displace Mark Ella, who during that schoolboy tour played in all internationals. That alone was possibly the main reason he went to league, where my good mate, Olsen Filipaina, RIP, usually had the wood on him.

2023-10-27T01:25:51+00:00

4 of 6

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The ABs have done well to get to the finals. The ABs always had the players. The coaching and selections has been iffy coming into the RWC. The 23 selected is not perfect, but it’s done. The starting 15 is hard to argue against. Hopefully all the details have been worked out……may the best team win.

2023-10-27T01:14:18+00:00

James in NZ

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I just looked it up, sounds eerily similar to our WWII 'Battle of Manners St'. The Brits and Yanks had similar street battles. Then internally the Yanks fighting amongst themselves in the "Battle of Bamber Bridge". American diplomacy rules the world.

2023-10-27T00:58:27+00:00

K.F.T.D.

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See if you can find and watch ‘Wally Lewis - The King’. It’s good. He played union for Brisbane Stat High School and Australian Schoolboys with the Ella’s.

2023-10-27T00:47:23+00:00

K.F.T.D.

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Sorry Ballymore. The Battle of Brisbane was when Australian and American troops fought each other in WWII. People died- if you haven’t read it you should.

2023-10-27T00:44:55+00:00

K.F.T.D.

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It was called the Battle of Brisbane, Mike Teague said it was the most violent game of rugby he’d seen. Different era.

2023-10-27T00:40:10+00:00

James in NZ

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Even looking back 10 yrs ago, amazing to see what players 'got away with' compared to today's climate. Sometimes it feels the pendulum swings too far the other way, but...

2023-10-27T00:39:11+00:00

James in NZ

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I had to Bing that, a few Crusaders (not the team) references in the replies. Seems apt.

2023-10-27T00:38:14+00:00

James in NZ

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I had a weird memory flashback the other night of watching Wally Lewis play for the maroons live. I'm not a league fan, but it occurred to me that its so easy to take great players for granted when they're around. The wisdom of hindsight.

2023-10-27T00:04:21+00:00

K.F.T.D.

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I’ve seen Chasing Great- excellent!

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