‘Is this a defining moment in the death of Test cricket’: Steve's right to be on Waughpath over pathetic Proteas squad

I've worked for several international companies. I've never seen salaries determined by tax rates across countries. Cost of living, market rates sure. Income tax, no.

Most things lose money if you disregard their main source of revenue.

Really? I’m talking about only the games themselves. The revenue made comes from ticket sales and maybe some merchandising. The rest is outgoings including ground hire, security, insurance, electricity, etc, etc. There no way income covers those costs. Why has Jamaica, for example, refused to even bid for hosting rights at the West Indies World Cup this year? This is quote from the Jamaican Sports Minister. “We had been considering the cost and source of funding of nearly half a billion dollars to host a few games in Jamaica,” Grange stated in the release.That’s 500 million dollars in costs The games themselves all lose money. Host cities or nations hope they’ll make up the shortfall through advertising, tourism, sponsorship, etc. Clearly Jamaica knew that wasn’t going to happen which is why they opted out

1. Because you have to allocate finite funds. 2. Any well-run company. 3. Depends on overall cost of living, but that kind of thing happens all the time.

"Every cricket playing nation loses money when they host any cricket match, be it a Test, ODI or T20." That is the least factual statement I think I'll read this year.

True, but I was looking at the individual players from that side and the careers they forged over a number of years suggest to me there's a lot of elite talent. Barnes, Morris, Bradman, Harvey Hassett, Miller, Lindwall - all truly great players with Don Tallon a truly exceptional gloveman. They might not have been hugely challenged by the bowling in that series but across their careers they were

Maybe the Invincibles are overrated. The opposition lacked really quick bowlers to give them a hurry up.

1) That was his choice and he was no guarantee of making the Test side contrary to the nonsense in the press, because he's only played one Test prior to the tour. My question to you" why did the other 12 or13 guys decide to tour? 2) These are ther reasons de Kock gave, wich come from Google "“This has not been an easy decision for me to make. I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about my future and what needs to take precedence in my life now that Sasha and I are ready to welcome our first child into the world and plan to expand our family.” “My family means the world to me, and I want to be able to spend as much time as possible with them as we embark on this new and exciting chapter of our life “ De Kock. 3) I saw people in the stadiums in those Tests so to suggest nobody was watching is simply wrong 4) Every cricket playing nation loses money when they host any cricket match, be it a Test, ODI or T20. How much they lose is obviously dependant on a range of factors, including crowd numbers but they still do NOT make a profit or get close to breaking even. That's why sponsors and media rights are so crucial to the success of the these events.

No thanks

did u count how many attended Ban vs New Zealand test. make a guess.

to support b : 1)why did haris rauf declined to play tests. 2)why did Quinton de cock retired from test cricket very early in his career that too when he was a leading cricketer in the world. 3)no one was attending test matches in Pakistan, hence PCB allowed free entry to the stadiums. but still no one cared to go to stadium to watch their team play in front of them after a long decade. does anyone know about this. 4)South Africa loses money from their coffers every time they host test matches other than India because there are not enough people watching it. even when they host Aus/Eng for Tests, they are losing money.

can you do some numbers on the crowd for test matches in Bangladesh, west indies, Bangladesh, Pakistan, New Zealand and south africa

since everyone remembers test cricket so well, can anyone name the player of the match/top scorer of the last test that New Zealand played without looking at scorecard.

can u mention something outside of Australia/England and Ashes to make your point. people talk as if Ashes is the messiah of all sports. but in reality it is not for 10 other test playing nations and it is just a bilateral test series between two nations.

So called “sports socialism” has worked pretty well for the AFL, as it has for many other organised team sports around the world. Another name for “Sports Socialism” is competition policy where salary caps, drafting rules etc are designed to maintain an exciting and even competition. Neoliberals may abhor it, but it works. IMO, if the ICC took control of test cricket in the same way with highly paid test cricketers playing in a competitive worldwide test cricket competition people would watch. BTW, those who argue that young people don’t want to watch test cricket should have been at the MCG for the recent test match. Other than the members, the stands were filled with young people enjoying themselves immensely.

"people in 9 out of 12 test playing nations just don’t care about test cricket" Another expert comment based on fact or opinion?

You truly have no idea at all. Test cricket has not made money in all countries for years. By the same token, AFL matches lose money and so do NRL games. All sports rely on sponsorships and media rights to stay afloat. The games themselves are income pits.

forgot about those Bangladesh tests. Thanks for reminding me

Why should NZ have to change and mess up their own plans? They worked around the ICC schedule.

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