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Last week I wrote how records in test cricket can last an incredibly long time before they're broken (if they are at all). I…
One of the absolute joys that makes test cricket unique is there is no other sport where records set, whether by intent or by…
There was a quiet and simmering expectation that David Warner would eventually reveal the truth about Cape Town sometime after he retired. Now that…
Not sure 85-85 is a high scoring free flowing affair. There was one point scored in the final 15 minutes of play.
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That’s a really terrifying open line, Nat. Never thought of it that way!
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Hmm, as long upon arrival on the new planet, he has a sign making it clear that his nose is atypical of the human species.
Wouldn’t want our new alien overlords to think we all have that schnozz.
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logically, there are 50% more boundaries getting hit, but also 50% more singles being taken, and above all, a significant reduction of dot balls being bowled.
You need to prove that. Because I’ve looked at a completely random snapshot of games across world cups, and your statement is looking increasingly false.
The possibiliy of Jofra Archer's career coming to an early end will rob cricket of a bowler with so much talent
Least dot balls is also not a good idea.
Bernie has forgotten that the dynamics of each inning is totally different and that way a second innings is undertaken is entirely dictated by how the first innings was played.
The dot ball idea only works if both innings are conducted simultaneously.
The possibiliy of Jofra Archer's career coming to an early end will rob cricket of a bowler with so much talent
Deflections, not overthrows.
But that wasn’t the reason they lost.
Guptill not knowing where he was relative to the boundary and gifting 6 runs lost them the game.
The possibiliy of Jofra Archer's career coming to an early end will rob cricket of a bowler with so much talent
“I don’t mean to be rude…” but then mean to be rude.
It’s a cornerstone of building culture
Do you do that in your line of work then?
You say I’m having a bob each way, but then out you go and do the same. Clearly it isn’t acceptable in your workplace, so you can’t say it’s acceptable because football is different.
Yelling at employees is not always considered bullying btw. Ever worked in consulting?
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The only thing in question here is the scale of what Topine was put through
but Topine knew this stuff could happen and signed up for it. What needs to be seen is the scale.
I’m sorry, but if it is ultimately proven that the scale was too much, then Topine could NOT have reasonably forseen this stuff would happen when he signed up to it, and thus doesn’t have the luxury of making a reasoned choice at that moment in time when the punishment is to be inflicted.
That’s pretty plum obvious, TB.
The Lewinsky example is thus entirely relevant. She didn’t know what she was signing up for when she entered the Oval Office. She would have had an inkling. But in that moment when decisions need to be made…
I don’t think this is the massive, let’s humiliate and torture this bloke it’s being made out to be
Time will tell. He clearly disagrees with you, and one thing is for certain: neither you or I were there.
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Doing extras as a disciplinary measure has always been part of the game… if it didn’t have an impact, why has it persisted
There is a fine line between doing extras as disciplinary reasons, and then doing something that crosses a line and becomes wildly disproportionate.
As to its persistence, that doesn’t remotely prove it is the right behaviour. Behavioural psychology is not black and white. And nor are these physical trainers remotely close to experts in behavioural psychology.
Generally the teams that find success are the ones that look to evolve away from the seemingly tried and tested practices.
If they were doing spring training, he works have had to do extra sprints
One, you cannot possibly know that. All of a sudden you are now making assumptions without any evidence.
Two, that punishment is entirely different. Extra sprint training does not require the participation of others to psychologically demean.
If you honestly think that these practices are the clincher to unlock the best out of the Bulldogs moving forward, then we need to stop debating.
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Oh yes, they are runaway premiership favourites now…you’re in the 8 because of a bye. On pure win/loss/draw you should be in 12th.
I like you TB, always have. Got lots of time for you and I’m ok to disagree on this.
That said you are being wildly biased in your views on this today and it needs to be said. Again, feel free to disagree with that too.
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“That stuff was pretty common the 70′, 80’s but then low and behold it was unacceptable in the 2000’s.”
Just to be clear, you think that was unacceptable by Brown, but being forced to wrestly 20 odd people in a matter of minutes as punishment for being late is acceptable?
Have I got this right?
NRL News: 'Happens every day' - Anasta defends Dogs as $4M lawsuit looms over former player's training punishment
Why would others be listed in Topine’s statement of claim…?
That’s my point.
Where did I say anything about 360…?
It was an example. Titmuss recieved lots of news attention. So, it’s kinda on you to demonstrate how this one has received more?
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I disagree.
If others were listed in the statement of claim, or any other actions that include other players copping the same treatment, it would have come out in the news.
AAP saw what they saw, they didn’t see snippets.
I’m not even sure why you are trying to underplay the news from the Titmuss case. It was big news. Your suggestion that this is bigger news is fanciful. Why, because it was on NRL 360?
Perhaps consider why Titmuss wasn’t referenced on 360.
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The amount of vitriol Stroll gets is definitely uncalled for. No driver should cop that, or any sportsperson.
That said, the defence that you have given him over the years is also wholly unjustified. He is not a good driver, he does not belong in f1, and he is a nepo baby that robs someone else of a seat.
Sure, he’s not the first driver out there to be taking the seat of someone else because of sponsorship or marketing reasons, and normally at the end of the day the person who ended up being parachuted into the seat acquits themselves well. Stroll, does not do that.
And he’s not the most criticised out there. Nikita Mazespin was definitely more reviled than Stroll. Also a nepo baby that didn’t belong in the top ranks.
Chinese Grand Prix talking points: Stroll has become the most hated F1 driver in a long time - but that's simply an unfair call!
That’s an obtuse reading by someone who is struggling to take off the Bulldogs goggles.
He’s also not said others were…and all articles referring to the statement of claim is suggesting that he is very much implying he was singled out.
He’s made it quite clear that he felt his punishment, and the inadequate explanation for it, was him being singled out.
You’re also deflecting from the issue: you surely cannot think this is a sensible punishment? How in any way does it improve the performance of the player on the day?
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a) They will only say this if all others have been forced do it and can prove that. Or, prove that no one else has ever turned up late to training.
b) That’s incorrect. You will need to prove that that punishment improves fitness and practice. This was a punishment doled out because someone was late, not because they haven’t met certain fitness criteria set by the club.
c) That’s incorrect. No argument is won by simply saying they knew what they were signing up for. No junior grade does that, and it is reasonable to assume players do not know the full extent of what they are signing up for at the point of signing up.
d) That’s the same as point a.
e) $4m is ridiculous, yes. But it won’t be a look at the average. It will be the mean and median, and yes, almost certainly just on his position. The second point will be discounted entirely as it is too subjective. And you are right, the average career piece is precisely why it is a ridiculous claim.
IF he wins, he is, at best, getting $700-800k (a combination of back pay, lost future pay and a modest punitive figure), and a good chunk of that will be lost to legal fees. If he loses, he’s looking at paying a fair whack of money in legal fees for the Bulldogs.
He clearly doesn’t have alternative career prospects that pay well (otherwise he wouldn’t be pitching for the moon) so this is a big gamble by him.
NRL News: 'Happens every day' - Anasta defends Dogs as $4M lawsuit looms over former player's training punishment
I don’t think Panthers is suggesting that.
Topine might be. And if that is proven to be true, that is a BIG problem for the Bulldogs.
NRL News: 'Happens every day' - Anasta defends Dogs as $4M lawsuit looms over former player's training punishment
I’m not expecting them to behave like a normal workplace, not at all. It’s clearly as different a workplace as is being a pearl diver or an astronaut.
No two workplaces are really ever the same.
But, bullying is not acceptable in any workplace.
If Tapine is truthful in his account, it’s not about him being pushed beyond his limits, but is about the bullying.
What will need to be played in court is if other people who were late received the same punishment. It will greatly weaken his case, but simultaneously look atrociously on the Bulldogs. Is this the exemplar of team culture? You are rooted in the bottom four. Surely, there is a better way?
NRL News: 'Happens every day' - Anasta defends Dogs as $4M lawsuit looms over former player's training punishment
The thing this ignores is that players – including Topine – know this stuff going in and subject themselves to it willingly
Let me ask this, and I’m going to give a rather abstract, but still importantly relevant example:
Did Monica Lewinsky willingly do what she did? To be clear, there is no issue of consent, but do you think she was in a position to really say “no” and think no negative consequence to her internship would happen?
NRL News: 'Happens every day' - Anasta defends Dogs as $4M lawsuit looms over former player's training punishment
“Willingly” is again, a very interesting word to use.
Few willingly want to be shark baited. It’s the bargain that is made in return for good money. Professional sport is simply just the physical manifestation of negotiations over money.
The “willingness” of what people are prepared to do increases proportionately with the money on offer.
And it doesn’t justify the behaviour by the employer.
NRL News: 'Happens every day' - Anasta defends Dogs as $4M lawsuit looms over former player's training punishment
What Topine went through is called shark baiting and has been commonly used by NRL clubs for a long time.
But, as with many things, it’s long term usage doesn’t mean it’s right either.
Look at Nathan Brown in 2003 when he slapped Trent Barrett (and Matt Cooper?). That stuff was pretty common the 70′, 80’s but then low and behold it was unacceptable in the 2000’s.
NRL News: 'Happens every day' - Anasta defends Dogs as $4M lawsuit looms over former player's training punishment
Because no one has said Titmuss was singled out for disproportionate treatment, TB.
Take the Bulldogs glasses off.
Titmuss passed away doing an activity that everyone else was doing. If Titmuss passed away because the coach made him, and only him, run in 40 degree weather at an absurd speed for an absurd distance while everyone else watched and was prevented from offering him water…then that’s a different story.
NRL News: 'Happens every day' - Anasta defends Dogs as $4M lawsuit looms over former player's training punishment
He would have needed insurance, or they would need to sue Manly if it was ever proven that Manly failed in their duty of care.
NRL News: 'Happens every day' - Anasta defends Dogs as $4M lawsuit looms over former player's training punishment
One would have to agree. Whatever the Bulldogs did, clearly didn’t work. The team was hopeless.
NRL News: 'Happens every day' - Anasta defends Dogs as $4M lawsuit looms over former player's training punishment
But Cam, the integrity of a game when it’s not 13 v 13 for even a second will be called into question!
We paid to see the superstars, remember!
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