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Nice deflection.

The A-League wishes it has the financial clout it could be that morally objectionable

It's time the APL came clean on the state of the game in the A-Leagues

I didn’t ask what it needs. I asked why is it needed at all.

Your last paragraph advocates the need for more money so that these players can leave for better opportunities overseas??

That’s absolutely insane. There is no ROI if any player leaves and goes overseas. None at all.

No one would give money to a venture so that the best can disappear to the other side of the world and earn millions and not give a cent back to Australia.

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

That should be the goal.

But at no stage would any sensible government throw money into supporting that goal.

No government wants to see its best and brightest not contribute to its own tax base.

If the A-League is only good for being a development league, it needs to do it without govt support.

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

Lol

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

Thailand is big money these days have you ever followed the ACL , Malaysia less so but the top couple of teams.

The average salaries of players in the top division in Thailand is less than the A-League. It’s about $7k a month. Hardly big money. Lower cost of living in Thailand, sure, but hardly big money.

The A-league is for players who want to stay in contention for the national team and bigger overseas leagues.

Rubbish, and that only applies to about 20% of the players. The remaining 80% of the A-League players stand no chance of getting a nice contract in Europe, Japan, China etc.

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

Ok, agreed

But my comment is still true. We cannot produce top line talent.

The top line has moved away from what we are capable of developing.

Once a gap starts to increase, it requires an almighty (and arguably unjustifiable) level of funding to reduce the gap.

The question that needs to be asked, is why would we need to reduce the gap?

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

“their media”. You mean mainstream media in Asia?

No they aren’t. You’ve cherry picked an article off a niche football website – in English – and you claim “their media is talking about it”?

The actual mainstream media in Asia, at least in the English language world has not got one article about the match tonight.

SCMP, no. CNA, no. Straits times? no. New Straits times? No. The star? No.

Does the A-League have the clout to make a UK-bound event round work in season 2024/25?

It is borderline miraculous that the white powder managed to navigate a passage through the canal.

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No, more socceroos do play in the A-League.

It actually speaks both relatively highly of the A-League (that it can produce talent to make the second round of the world cup), and rather disappointingly of the current stock of top line talent in Australia (it can’t produce good enough talent to make top division European teams).

The golden era circa 05-14 is over.

Don’t be fooled by the zealots posting their “it’s the most participated sport in the country”. I play it every weekend, and I’m rubbish at it.

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

The A-League demographic is this:

Group 1: Players between 19-23 who have 3-4 years to really showcase their skills and angle for a good contract overseas.
Group 2: Players 24+ who were not able to get that contract and are stuck in the A-League as the best of a set of bad options. No one is in group 2 by choice.

And that’s why its not enjoyable. Literally every player in it doesn’t want to be in it. They are professionals. Every single one of them would jump ship immediately to another league that pays more if they could.

So if they don’t want to be there, why on earth should the crowd?

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

The English clubs have existed for 100+ years.

The APL clubs were formed off the back of a consultation exercise. Maybe in a 100 years they might have the entrenched support the English ones have.

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

So, because you love rugby, and not the NRL, you therefore believe rugby has never engaged in the activities you allege the NRL partake in?

football is a genuinely global sport with far my international engagement, competition and ultimately opportunities to garner income?

You need to explain why international engagement is some kind of be all and end all metric to justify favouritism?

Factually speaking, far far more Australians have garnered top tier incomes playing NRL and AFL than they have playing football. Far, far more. It is in the governments, and societies best interest that high income earners earn their high incomes in Australia and pay tax in Australia. The highest earning Australian footballers, while no doubt earning FAR more than the highest earning AFL/NRL player, are paying taxes in another country.

The objective of nearly every government in the world is to retain talent and have incomes paid toward their tax centre, not create a system where talent leaves and contributes to another taxation centre.

What you are arguing is that the government should be actively encouraging it’s high performing talent to emigrate and explore those international opportunities?

So, if you are going to use that argument, you’ve lost before you got started.

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

The answer is clear.

The A-League is a development league for the talented juniors who will eventually get a good gig overseas, and a last resort for Australians who couldn’t make it in Europe or Japan but will get a better paycheque here than they would in Thailand or Malaysia.

Put them together and it means you’ve a League 1 or League 2 quality league. Which isn’t necessarily bad. But because these clubs don’t have 100 years of history, no one goes.

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

Hear hear, 13th

I’m a huge fan of football, just not the A-League, and like the millions of others fans in Australia I don’t particularly feel a need to get angry when the Australian under 19’s are not on prime time FTA broadcasts. But apparently because I’m not angry about that, it you an absolute traitor to some of the hardcore on this page.

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

THANK YOU!

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

Agree Waz.

Interesting that some of the people who liked your post, liked it. Considering they are the chief haters of the competition.

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

Stop trolling with such logic and reason, CtD.

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

But they also command more eyeballs which in turn increases the value of advertisements.

And I disagree with your assessment of Starc. He may have skipped the IPL for years but Indians are fans of him.

And I’ve seen Indians wearing jumpers of foreign players

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They said those exact words did they?

How can the APL convince casual fans the A-League Men is worth supporting?

Their salaries aren’t fully about performance though.

Those three also have huge fan followings in India, Maxwell in particular. Their names sell franchise merchandise. You’d be surprised just how many Indians will have an IPL shirt of a non-Indian player.

The Maxwell name makes a franchise a lot of money.

World Cup chances up in the air but Smith makes Major call on T20 future, Green dumped despite huge IPL deal

Kieran Foran.

Don't believe the hype: Why did Bulldogs fork out big bucks for the most overrated player in the NRL?

This is very true.

Godwin’s law needs a 21st century update.

Don't believe the hype: Why did Bulldogs fork out big bucks for the most overrated player in the NRL?

Perez is the perfect number two for the egomaniac Verstappen.

Good enough to come second in a surreal car, but nowhere good enough to put any pressure on Verstappen.

No way would RB want to jeopardise that and get a better driver in the number 2 seat.

Japanese Grand Prix talking points: Verstappen returns to winning ways as Perez solidifies grip on Red Bull seat

Yeah, I get that, but even in the real world you can take the early plea.

They exist to give the offender the opportunity to demonstrate remorse. It’s important for rehabilitation.

If expressing remorse came with no carrot, chances are no one would really be as bothered to say sorry.

AFL News: Players Association slams 'double standards' in Finlayson ban, Cats to weigh up Thomas lifeline

Oh heavens above.

Stop focusing on the doping charge and focus on the power the NRL has to deny registering a contract.

I’ll make it clear: no player has any inherent right to play NRL. If the NRL wanted to permanently deny Xerri a return to the NRL, then that is their own decision and unchallengeable.

Bronson Xerri was banned from playing rugby league (and any other sport WADA is a signatory to as they are duty bound to honour any ban imposed by a WADA affiliated body), NOT just banned from NRL.

If after his ban was over and he wanted to return to the NRL, the NRL could have still blocked him entry. It wouldn’t have been a restraint of trade. Why?

Because he could have gone to the Super League in the UK, he could have gone to Super Rugby, he could have gone to Japan. There is no restraint of trade. He had plenty of other avenues to make a living off his abilities. There is no grounds to make a legal challenge.

Which is exactly what Folau did, as you have clearly pointed out. Once it was clear that behind the scenes the NRL were never going to let Folau back in (and Abdo did indicate Folau would be unlikely to return), he went elsewhere.

The NRL retain the absolute right to deny entry to anyone for any reason.

I cannot fathom why you can’t get this.

Whether NRL celebrates Jennings' milestone or not is irrelevant, the real issue is should he have been allowed back?

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