'Fighting with one hand tied': To'omua calls on Rugby Australia to 'pick best Wallabies team' to stop international slide

By Christy Doran / Editor

Two-time World Cup member Matt To’omua has called on Rugby Australia to allow Joe Schmidt to pick from anywhere like Rassie Erasmus, saying the Wallabies are going into matches with “one hand tied behind our back” and that it is the “way forward”.

Ever since Schmidt was unveiled as Eddie Jones’ successor in January, the New Zealander has said his preference is to pick from onshore.

At his opening press conference in Sydney, Schmidt said he had opportunities to pick from overseas when he was Ireland’s coach but chose not to.

On Tuesday, Schmidt said the door wasn’t shut on the likes of overseas fly-halves Quade Cooper and Bernard Foley, but reiterated his preference was to pick from within Super Rugby.

“I think for me, I’d be a big fan of not just those 10s, guys like [Marika] Koroibete, Will Skelton, there are players around the world that are of Australian origin that are right up at the top echelon, but I’d love to be able to pick a Wallabies team from those players that we see here in Australia itself,” Schmidt said on Stan Sport’s Rugby Heaven.

“The door’s definitely not closed, and I think too much of those players that I just mentioned to rule them out, but there’s some good kids coming through and if you don’t invest in them, then it’s hard for them to come through.

“One of the ways to invest, as I mentioned with Johnny Sexton, is to put them in behind someone with experience like Johnny had with Felipe Contepomi and that allows them to grow because coaches don’t do all the coaching at all. There is a player to player coaching that is continuous.”

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Matt To’omua says Rugby Australia should allow Joe Schmidt to pick whoever he wants in his Wallabies team. (Photo by Mark Metcalfe/Getty Images)

But To’omua, who played at two World Cups and under four Wallabies coaches, said he didn’t believe the New Zealander’s stance having seen others like Michael Cheika, Dave Rennie and Eddie Jones increasingly look to overseas to help turn around the national team’s fortunes.

“We need to pick our best team,” said To’omua, who co-hosts The Roar Rugby podcast.

“Joe coming in as a foreign coach, I feel like he needs to say that we’ll pick local. Dave Rennie said the same thing, Eddie Jones said the same thing, it’s more PR.

“We need to pick our strongest team. We haven’t won a Super Rugby competition in 10 years, we’re eighth or ninth in the world, we’re only going to slide down further.”

Ever since Cheika sensationally got his way ahead of the run to the 2015 World Cup final by being able to pick the Toulon-based stars Matt Giteau and Drew Mitchell, RA has tweaked their Overseas Eligibility Policy to allow some foreign-based layers to be picked.

Michael Cheika changed Australia’s eligiblity policy to pick Matt Giteau and Drew Mitchell at the 2015 WOrld Cup. (Photo by Mark Nolan/Getty Images)

After settling on three players in the post-Covid pandemic years, Rennie sought to have discussions about increasing that number before he was axed in early 2023.

Then Jones was given “whatever he wants” by RA for the failed 2023 campaign, with Richie Arnold being plucked from Toulouse to play despite never previously representing the Wallabies.

But with the British and Irish Lions to tour Down Under next year and Australia to host the 2027 World Cup, it’s believed RA want to make it clear their strong preference for those hoping to appear in the showpiece events is that they are playing in Super Rugby.

Indeed, the perception at Moore Park is broadcasters won’t want to pay for a product where the best Wallabies players aren’t playing Super Rugby and instead are plying their trade overseas.

But To’omua believes it has got to the point where Super Rugby is no longer the product it once was and, therefore, they should priories ensuring the Wallabies are as strong as possible.

“We need to pick the best Wallabies team. End of,” said To’omua, who previously was the Rugby Union Players’ Association president.

“As much as we want to say we’re not the Socceroos, I think we need to look at it as the Socceroos.

“Unfortunately, the market is so much bigger overseas whether it’s in Japan, France or England, and we just need to pick our best team because Australia will get behind a strong Wallabies team that is performing and winning games.

“I understand the trickledown economics of it all – if we don’t have a strong local club [it will see a reduced broadcast figure] – [but] we don’t at the moment.

“Let’s get real, we don’t have a strong Super Rugby [competition] at the moment and we need to prioritise something, and I think we need the Wallabies to be at their best.

“I don’t see why we would go into a fight with one hand tied behind our back.”

Matt To’omua played at two World Cups. (Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

To’omua has ridden the highs and lows of Australian rugby, having played in a Super Rugby final with the Brumbies in 2013 and two years later featuring off the bench in the World Cup final loss against the All Blacks.

He has also seen the Wallabies drop to historic lows, losing at home to Argentina and away to Italy before bowing out in the World Cup pool stage for the first time.

It’s why To’omua is not sure whether the Wallabies have experienced rock bottom yet.

“It’s funny you say that because during my career I kept thinking we’re at the lowest possible [point] because I grew up watching Toutai Kefu win the Bledisloe and John Eales kick the penalty from 15 in, and I thought we just lost to Argentina,” he said. “That’s as low as it gets.

“But the game’s moving on and we aren’t. We’re still thinking that we are the powerhouse we once are.

“Who’d have thought 10-15 years ago we would have been talking about Ireland or a Scotland as this morale true north that we want to aim towards, but that’s where the game is and we’re taking a while to adjust.”

To’omua pointed to the Springboks’ success on the world stage since Erasmus took over from Alister Coetzee, as he picked players from overseas knowing South Africa’s currency couldn’t compete with the overseas markets.  

“It’s been done before,” To’omua said.

“In 2017, Rassie comes into South Africa. South Africa were a basket case at the time. He didn’t come up with a new game plan, but he came in and said we’re going to let you play overseas, we can’t compete with overseas, but we’re going to use that money that we’ve saved on you to spend locally on grassroots and community rugby to develop those players.

“Letting guys like WiIll Skelton go overseas and earn great coin – that money that we’re saving lets actually invest that in the community game – and get Will back when we need him to do his job, which is to play for the Wallabies and play well.

“It was a masterstroke that we haven’t spoken enough about that Rassie altered – and I think it’s a way forward for us.”  

The Crowd Says:

2024-03-14T08:00:12+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


NPC has rarely produced more than 5 or 6 U20 squad members. Most countries have better budgets than NZ and professionalism has caught them up to NZ via academies and pathways being far better. 6N has U20s and the RC doesnt as yet. It will soon and that may be ths year... Not sure there. I think you, and many others, have the MP concept wrong. Its designed to promote Tongan and Samoan elegible players with a pro team and everything that goes with that. They dont have the depth in quality to have a full squad of these players so to make them competitive they sign NZ and Aus players too. With Kefu, Lealiifano and now Julian Savea playing for them , they are guys who bring players in and can pass a lot on. Half their squad made it to the WC last year and I think over time you will get more and more Samoan and Tongan players come back from Europe and give back or you will see some decide they can earn a living and still be close to family. I think it needs some adjusting at the moment. Id have a few games in different locations like maybe 2 games in Samoa/Tonga. Two in Auckland, Two in Western Sydney..... I think there is a lot to learn from their 2 season involvement so far and it will become netter targetted. The one thing you could not do was have them not being competitive. Ive watched their games closely this season and the first 2 weeks they were great. Last week they were very average. They will become more consistant.

2024-03-14T07:45:45+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


World cups bring retirements Brendan. thats life. I dont agree with your "like for like" comment tho as all teams recruit from below the level they are at if recruiting locally. To me if I was a player retiring Id never go north. The Japan comp is fantastic money and less matches. Semi retirement????

2024-03-14T07:42:38+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


From an NZ perspective the NPC allows the players to prove their worth, then the better playrs play SR the following year and then on to Test selection if good enough. The flow seems to work well and would work well for Aus of they dedicate to it longterm. If you reverse SR and the NPC it means players are playing NPC level going in to internationals and thats probably not what you need. Later works better for a lomger comp due to the timeframs I guess but not for the players or Test teams.

2024-03-14T07:38:58+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


That's the problem with bringing private investors into your clubs. But hopefully they accept that they also benefit from the RWC wins.

2024-03-14T07:30:37+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


I think most gangsters are nutters to do what they do to people.

2024-03-14T07:29:08+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


SARU yes, not sure the owners of the Sharks or Stormers will be if they miss out out on the Champions Cup.

2024-03-13T22:49:02+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


Sorry missed EE. I reckon they'll be happy with those consecutive RWCs.

2024-03-13T22:46:25+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


I can see that happening in the next few years Brendan. BTW I'm watching an Irish gangster programme called Kin. Your namesake is an absolute nutter!

2024-03-13T22:33:54+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


Eben and Nche not important. SARU do know what they want and got it. But the people paying the bills for these players may not see it the same way. Will they continue to do it this WC cycle is still to be seen.

2024-03-13T22:29:56+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


He will learn true and get the games. But imagine what he would learn being in the Chiefs environment for 9-10 months with their coaching team and be training for most of that time with DMac. Instead he may start one or two games then back to lesser coaches and lesser players.

2024-03-13T19:32:48+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Rebels 20s, Rising and Country Eagles were SR auxiliary programs…

2024-03-13T18:34:09+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


Don't forget that he needed an off season! Point taken that he could do with more games but he's learning from DMac and he'll get a full NPC campaign. He could end up with close to 20 matches anyway.

2024-03-13T18:19:19+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


None of them started when it mattered in the world cup! You have to hand it to how well South Africa prioritised what matters and make sure that their players are well looked after.

2024-03-13T18:13:33+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


Five, compared to three after joining the Pro 12. Also three against Argentina, which hasn't happened since Italy joined the Pro and Argentina joined the Rugby Championship. Agreed on your last sentence.

2024-03-13T15:54:02+00:00

ScottD

Roar Guru


Yes, it doesn't need to be all or nothing. In fact most SR sides ae running "A" teams that play a curtain raiser. So we are almost there really, just need to formalise it.

2024-03-13T12:52:50+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


No, there is no international side that can be successfully without that. Why did Fiji improve because they were able to play a kicking game and dominate the breakdown giving them territory and points. Even NZ cut down on their running and went back to kicking and breakdown to fix their issues, if they had not they would not have beaten Ireland at the WC or SA in the RC. Every other new coach went with this as it is easy to do. Why are the Reds improved this year, Oz strength was to run and the more they ran the more they lost the ball. They can’t defend so what was Eddie to build the plan around, run and never get tackled.

2024-03-13T12:48:01+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


RA's problem is the players who are not test players need a longer season. Having the WB XV helps but they need a longer season and having bigger SRP squads and either play SRP home and away or play a SR Au Aug - Oct is more cost effective than an NRC and the SRP coaches get to improve their teams for the next season. A big lump of a player being told run hard at player to get gainline at NRC does little for the player or the SRP team.

2024-03-13T12:44:57+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


Why can't they run a SR D2 and let NZ sides put in 5 NPC sides and let RA choose if they put in SRP B sides or other teams. RA's problem is you are either a professional or you are not and the jump is to much for a player to make by themselves

2024-03-13T12:41:38+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


Jacko you mean like the SA team's ability to get past a quarterfinal of the Champions Cup. From the last SR final how many players are not playing in Super Rugby this year and compare it to the Champions Cup, Prem, T14 or URC finals, yes players leave but rarely do the top players. Also look and who replaces the players. SR fills it with a kid or a NH player who can't get a contract while NH side are normally replace like for like.

2024-03-13T12:34:54+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


Will review there, it can be hard to see new stories. How many of the Italian wins were against Scotland prior to joining. Italy had the difficult challenge of joining the Celtic league as all three nations improved at test level.

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