Yeah apart from the fact that it didn't go forwards. Doctordbx Is spot on, he might have been trying to knock it down but it went backwards so no infringement. Unlucky on the Georgians, yes, but the right the decision
It doesn't matter, a player is perfectly entitled to knock a ball back in a legal manner. There is nothing wrong with that at all.
Maybe he got lucky but that's the way the ball bounced on this one. No infringement.
"but luckily for him he didn’t pull it off"
Well he did. He cynically obstructed the opposition pass on attack. That was his intent and he acheived it. This is exactly what the law was created to prevent
Poor old Georgia, they hardly need calls going aginst them but they still put on a fantastic show
Yeah, you can, because that’s what happened. You have to take into account the forward pass rule that says that the ball has to go backwards out of your hands, but can still be travelling forwards relative to the pitch.
The Georgian passes the ball backwards out of his hands, but toward the Welsh line relative to the pitch (so not a forward pass). The ball and Welsh hand touch, but not enough to stop it continuing its flight towards the Welsh line. While it’s not a Georgian forward pass, after it leaves the Georgian’s hands it’s always moving towards the Welsh line, so isn’t a knock on.
The Welshman may well have tried to be cynical and deliberate, but luckily for him he didn’t pull it off.
Cynical and deliberate. Yellow all day
The spiralling of the ball causes the eventual trajectory. It travels forward off his hand and then spins. There is NO way that you can deflect the ball backwards with your palm facing the opp goal line
It's pretty clear. The penalty is for deliberately infringing to gain advantage. Tapping a ball backwards is not infringing.
The yellow card penalty for deliberate knock down is already a stupid law without people injecting their own nonsensical understanding of it.
GibbonRib
Roar Rookie
Yeah apart from the fact that it didn't go forwards. Doctordbx Is spot on, he might have been trying to knock it down but it went backwards so no infringement. Unlucky on the Georgians, yes, but the right the decision
Sgt Pepperoni
Roar Rookie
Well you'll never get a more obvious example of a deliberate knock down. Georgia hard done by
Doctordbx
Roar Rookie
It doesn't matter, a player is perfectly entitled to knock a ball back in a legal manner. There is nothing wrong with that at all. Maybe he got lucky but that's the way the ball bounced on this one. No infringement.
Sgt Pepperoni
Roar Rookie
Rubbish. He had no right to the ball. Explain what he was doing with his hand there? Was he catching it? No
Doctordbx
Roar Rookie
It must be a deliberate infringement. Since there was no infringement the whole argument is moot. There was no knock on, no infringement, no penalty.
Sgt Pepperoni
Roar Rookie
Also TMOs are such yes men. It's pathetic
Sgt Pepperoni
Roar Rookie
"but luckily for him he didn’t pull it off" Well he did. He cynically obstructed the opposition pass on attack. That was his intent and he acheived it. This is exactly what the law was created to prevent Poor old Georgia, they hardly need calls going aginst them but they still put on a fantastic show
Gonzo99
Roar Rookie
Yeah, you can, because that’s what happened. You have to take into account the forward pass rule that says that the ball has to go backwards out of your hands, but can still be travelling forwards relative to the pitch. The Georgian passes the ball backwards out of his hands, but toward the Welsh line relative to the pitch (so not a forward pass). The ball and Welsh hand touch, but not enough to stop it continuing its flight towards the Welsh line. While it’s not a Georgian forward pass, after it leaves the Georgian’s hands it’s always moving towards the Welsh line, so isn’t a knock on. The Welshman may well have tried to be cynical and deliberate, but luckily for him he didn’t pull it off.
Sgt Pepperoni
Roar Rookie
Cynical and deliberate. Yellow all day The spiralling of the ball causes the eventual trajectory. It travels forward off his hand and then spins. There is NO way that you can deflect the ball backwards with your palm facing the opp goal line
Rick Somerton
Roar Rookie
No knock on. Nothing to see here.
Doctordbx
Roar Rookie
No way does it go forward off the hand. It moves towards the Welsh try line... that is not forward.
jameswm
Roar Guru
I thought it went forward off the hand though
Doctordbx
Roar Rookie
It's pretty clear. The penalty is for deliberately infringing to gain advantage. Tapping a ball backwards is not infringing. The yellow card penalty for deliberate knock down is already a stupid law without people injecting their own nonsensical understanding of it.