Time to ring in the Wallaby changes

You righy David, from Argentina to me Mowen is a better choice as captain, if not the alternative is Will Genia. The fly half has to be Kurtley Beale. My team, so that when the injured are back. Ben Robinson - Moore or Polota - Kepu or Slipper Horwill - Timani or Fardy Mowen - Palu or Higgers- Pocock or Hooper Genia - Beale JOC - Kuridrani - Lealifano - AAC Folau Fernando - Argentina

Looks like we agree on every point and the timing - EOYT. Morahan could replace Tomane 11 or Folau 15. And for EOYT, if Speight comes in at wing, AAC is another option for fullback.

No Bias David, I am a Wallabies supporter first and i just want the best player on the field. What i am saying is that all the forwards need a shake up, which i why i don't agree with anyone saying Mowen is playing great when he isn't. he hardly makes an impact And i can't see how my comments differ much from yours. I agree 100% with the no fire urgency etc. So again, how can he lead a team if he is a major contributor to our biggest problem? your are quite right david, tame doesnt win games Mowen = Tame

David, i dont think mowen is the answer at captain either. I think our best option is Pocock he did well as captain in the 2011 world cup at only 23. He is 3 years younger than mowen so one would assume he will be around for longer. I also think Pocock leads on an off the field and is a diamond in the rough of gen y players currently around his age

I know everything, Not me him. We will never make it here because all the mongrels and doggos play league. Too many S..t c..k dads in the rugby corner letting the their boys become momma's boys. Our guys get yellow carded for dumb s**t. We let ourselves be dominated. How about we at least get a yellow card that is deserved by giving the next guy that scrags you or gouges or plays you off the ball a good right cross. Either that or get some decent refs.

How about Beau Robinson. All Heart

I only hope we are not cursed with the now cliched "we building for the RWC in 2015" BS as an excuse for not picking the right teams & winning games NOW! I've heard this before in past years - just words to cover poor teams, coaches & administration. Additionally, my thoughts are that the Wallabies & ARU are now feeling the effects of the lack of development of players. Australia has no depth, we have no national competition as do NZ and SA and we have more competition for football players because of AFL, NRL and Soccer. Until the ARU addresses our lack of development paths, I fear the Wallabies will drop out of the top 3 international teams permanently & won't be competitive against the top teams for many years (or perhaps never again).

1. Yes that should happen immediately. 2. Backrow will Inevitably be Pocock, Higgers & Mowen. Fardy deserves to stay and should partner horwill in at lock 3. Agree and i think this goes for most of the tactical coaches as i think link is a people manager and needs those people around him 4. I think at the moment he is the best out of a bad bunch (or not quite ready) although i dont think CLL is the answer at 12 he may be the answer at 10. but its not worth trying until the EOYT 5. My preference would be 12.JOC 13. Kuridrani or and this is a big or... if folau adapts well 12.Folua 13. Kuridrani/Tapuai 6. i would hope there would be a better option. and honestly im lead to think link and morahan must of had a bust up because surely morahan is a better option than tomane. God id even give rocket rod or locky turner another go over tomane. 7. I think Ewen is a people manager and he needs to be surrounded by tactical nous for a good combination. im 50/50 on ewen at the moment. i think he could be great but i also think it could take us a long time to hit desired form under him 8. As above yes! and i dont think Jim Mckay has the goods, the reds have been off the boil since 2011 and i think part of this is his inability to adapt. 9. I dont know if things are at the stage yet. the same could be said about drew mitchell though. I think we have enough stock at 10 to suffice at the moment. 10. No he is not. Beale will replace him if and when he gets his head right. if not JOC but same goes for him. thoughts?

P You forgot one more question - can someone teach Kuridrani to catch a pass?? What's with trying to catch with one-hand?? I saw it against the AB's and against the Boks. And even tho' the passes looked wayward, every player should be in a position to make a bad pass look bloody good....or at least look like he's attempting to catch. It's one of the first basics in this game - catch the ball.

Spot on.

"Rubbish Cliff. Strauss is a 111kg hooker and had little momentum going. Cooper just didn’t put in the basic effort required to stop him." Totally agreee Mike....you just have to look at To'omua's defence in the Brumbies/Lions game to see that.

That's right. No team ever loses in the NRL. Every team wins every week.

I love rugby, always have. Spent afternoons kicking for posts, stepping and turning out of tackles like Danie Gerber, then practiced The Tim Horan and Jason Little recollection of up and unders. Rugby in South Africa is very much an alpha male elimination chamber, perhaps contributing to our bullish fashion. "Rugby is what separates boys from men, men from good men, good men from great men, great men from champions!"- I remember my high school coach saying working us in a frenzy: "the next 70 minutes you will determine how people will remember you. Boys, men or a champion side? Your time is now!" Then we'd run up, play our hearts out; win or lose, sometimes with tears of joy or disappointment or pain. Now that the dust and weather have settled in Cape Town, and all us schoolboy or club rugby heroes turn expert analysists: and that's the great part of rugby. It still fuels the system, even on the couch. First things first: Credit where it's due! New Zealand is a championship side, who has had their challenges losing flyhalves but not losing games. Truth be told, 2 top tier teams haven't come close. Yes there was the Bismarck issue, bottom line is: in terms of getting the job done, no one got close. Getting the away bonus point win last night put the championship away. On to Cape Town then: Fourie du Preez was fantastic. Japan has done his game well. Genia made a great difference, it looked like he played without the weight of match winning expectation on his shoulders. The Genia Cooper combination also sped their game up and given the Boks' inability to keep 15 men on the field, put the Boks under pressure. The Wallaby intensity at the tackle and the ruck increased at half time. Co-incidently also the Bok yellow cards. 20 points maybe, but your boys never gave up: this could've become another 53-8 hiding easily! The officiating has become the talking point of this years championship, and it's not getting better. Hooper's card was harsh, but the last one was borderline ridiculous. Sending off someone for diving on his own player? Truth be told, he needed to see that again on tv as a teaching moment but 10 minutes for stupidity. Harsh. South Africa has grown tremendously in the last 18 months. I don't recall SA sides seeing the flyhalf dropping back and exploiting that against quality opposition. Great to watch and keep it up Heyneke and co. Don't show the All Blacks too much respect. Play them, preferably with 15 though. I missed it when the matchday squad came around, but it was almost suicidal playing Folau, a league convert next to Tomane. Hence propably the decision to drop back Cooper on defense. Ewen McKenzie in previous years would've gotten away with it, but both NZ and SA has punished naivity this season. However, that second half performance looked like they might be closer to putting it together. Ringing the changes? I'm not sure, some men showed signs of future greatness, with the right mix of combinations and balance - future champions isn't far fetched. But given the current situation, you need to lift your intelligibility to represent on foreign based players. We'd be very similar to your conundrum without our foreign based players. As for the current championship, the champions are in black, there is some great men luring in green, when they play with 15 championships will come their way. The Aussies need growing up, and they did some on Saturday.

Been saying the same all season Justin3. Oh can't read a game, can't decide when to kick and when to run is lost. JOC can be on the plane today.

Good point Matthew

At least at centre he won't be able to hide. I think Folau is the biggest waste of money since boom colt Blazing Saddles. Lot's of promise but a boy playing in a mans game. Completely out of it. My grandmother has better awareness and my mother would certainly try harder.

This is getting so boring. After each game I read all the winging about which coach was better, bickering about which player should be selected that might add a very small percentage improvement to the overall team and worst of all the petty comments of bias related which State the players come from. I often wonder when reading these forums if the majority of roarers secretly wish for the return of the days before professional rugby when all you had to compete against was the players that could afford to play rugby instead of the situation we have today where the best players in NZ and SA can now make a career out of the skills they have honed from playing in strong lower grade competition. Sheek nailed it fifty posts back and I know another on here (Johnno) brings this up occassionally as well but you all just generally push it aside and stick your head in the sand rather than face reality. Australian rugby is weak and has been declining for many years because the ARU maintains the old system of keeping rugby a game for pampered rich boys who do not have the mongrel in them to put up a decent fight while most of your best natural working class talent goes into rugby league. What has been the ARUs main strategy for improving the game for the last 10 years? Buy it from Rugby League - do I really need to say anything else? I will. Lack of a strong national comp is really killing the game and why do we not have that? Again because the game is kept the preserve of the elite instead of being promoted to the masses. Rant finished so you may all now go back to your endless B grade player selections that will fix nothing and petty State bias issues while ignoring the real issues but I do suggest you all go back and read Sheeks posts and just maybe think about what he has to say. Sheek - the frustration in your post is coming through loud and clear, your not alone.

Nail on head bennalong. Im not sure how much longer I can support this team with link as coach. He never deserved the role on merit. The reds do not play test quality rugby and his selection was purely a political and pr based decision.

This whole article of DL's gets to why coaches get paid so well. Do you "pick and stick" with players, or swap them if they haven't performed in a position over a given time, or just drop them altogether? Link needs to know this, and whilst a terrible start, maybe we won't really know until next year how he's going. We can debate if Falou should be 11-15 but we don't get to make the choice. Is Mowen an 8? Joc gone forever, or just a few months? Cooper too risky or starting to mature? A good coach needs to know this

But he is picking the wrong cattle.. Simmons??.. Tomane..?