AFL trade rumours update: Trading set to begin

By Josh / Expert

The wait is finally over, the AFL trade period opens today with trades eligible to be lodged from 10:00am AEDT.

Last week I looked at all the rumours that had surfaced so far about who might be going where and for how much, but in true trade period fashion my article was out of date before lunchtime.

So today as the trade period opens, I’m looking again at all the latest trade news that has emerged since then.

First up though, a brief recap of the player movement so far. Free agency opened on Friday, and so far two players have accepted offers from rival clubs.

On Friday, West Coast’s Scott Selwood accepted an offer from Geelong as a restricted free agent, leaving the Eagles with a dilemma.

Selwood’s departure is unlikely to net them anything higher than a second round draft pick, but they have the option of matching the offer and forcing a trade if they think they can get a better deal.

They have three days from the offer being accepted to make this decision, which means the clock runs out today.

My expectation is that they will decide not to match the offer and Scott Selwood will be a Cat by close of business.

The other move is less complicated. On Saturday it was announced at Hawthorn’s best and fairest that Matt Suckling would join the Bulldogs on a three-year contract.

As an unrestricted free agent there’s no matching period, and Suckling is officially a Bulldog as soon as the paperwork is lodged. The Hawks will receive a compensation pick likely in the third or second round of the draft.

Now onto the trades. Trading does open today but don’t expect a flurry of activity, last year it took more than three days for the first trade to be processed.

I don’t expect things to be as slow this year and in fact it’s quite possible we could see a trade or two on the first day. The new rules regarding trading future picks have given clubs more flexibility and that should see trades get done faster.

Giant Curtly Hampton is a player who could move on the first day. He asked for a trade to the Adelaide Crows some time ago, and it’s believed the Crows have agreed to give up their 2016 second round pick for him, or possibly their 2016 third rounder.

Hampton has played 51 games for the Giants mostly as a running defender but fell out of the best side this year. He has family connections in South Australia, and could put his versatility to use in a different role for the Crows.

It’s also possible that Carlton’s Lachie Henderson could join Geelong on the first day of trading, with rumours that the Cats have agreed to give up their 2016 first round pick for him.

If the rumours are true it’s a deal that the clubs are likely to get out of the way early, as both are set for busy trade periods.

The Cats might be the first team in the AFL to learn the folly of future picks trading if this goes ahead. In my mind Henderson – who is uncontracted – is not quite worth a first round pick.

If the Cats’ recruits lift them to the top four next year and their pick is in the 15-18 range then that’s not so bad a price to pay.

However, should the Cats’ season go ill and they miss finals, they could potentially be coughing up a top ten pick for the 25-year-old. That’s not a likely occurrence of course, but footy can be unpredictable.

It also looks likely that free agent Matthew Leuenberger will make his move in the near future with reports surfacing last night that he has settled on Essendon as his destination.

It might be today or it might be later this week, but he now appears certain to become a Bomber on a three-year deal.

That means Sydney, who were also in the race for him, will have to look elsewhere as they continue to search for a ruck successor to Mike Pyke, who is reportedly considering an early retirement to take up a job at an investment bank.

Pyke was expected to announce his retirement at Sydney’s best and fairest at the Swans’ best and fairest, but didn’t – so this one’s still up in the air.

The Swans are reportedly very interested in West Coast’s Callum Sinclair but will have a hard time prising him away from the Eagles. Another Eagles ruckman Scott Lycett also has some of their attention.

The Swans are expected to ask for Sinclair in a straight swap for Lewis Jetta, as Jetta indicated some time ago that he would like to return home to Western Australia.

The race for Melbourne’s Jeremy Howe seems to be heating up. Howe took a tour of the facilities at Gold Coast last week, but remains undecided on where he will play in 2016.

He is almost certain to request a trade away from the Demons, and while Collingwood have also shown an interest, North Melbourne has reportedly made a play for his services in the last few days. Fremantle have also shown some interest.

Carlton possess the number one pick in the pre-season draft this year and that’s starting to emerge as a factor in a number of trade negotiations.

Essentially having that first pre-season draft pick means that the Blues will have first rights to any uncontracted player who walks from their club and goes into the pre-season draft.

That means they could potentially steal a player like Adam Treloar, Jake Carlisle or James Aish, if they don’t manage to secure trades to their preferred destinations.

In the case of James Aish, he has officially requested a trade to Collingwood, but Brisbane at this point are refusing to trade him, saying he can either re-sign with the Lions, or walk to the pre-season draft where Carlton would no doubt be keen to take him before the Magpies get a chance.

The Magpies are likely to find a deal to get Adam Treloar from the Giants, rumoured to include their first round pick this year and more, but Carlton have also indicated an interest in him should that deal fall through.

Lastly, Essendon are demanding pick 5 in exchange for Jake Carlisle after he nominated St Kilda as his preferred destination, but the Saints have already ruled out giving it up.

The Bombers will likely relent as they have done in the past with the Stewart Crameri and Paddy Ryder trades, but again, Carlton’s pre-season draft advantage remains a threat if the deal doesn’t get done.

Of course, Carlton can’t use that pick on all three players, so the threat is diminished a bit. My expectation is that all three deals will get done and the players will get to their clubs of choice.

In what is shaping as a busy off-season for the Blues, there have been renewed reports of their interest in Adam Tomlinson from the Giants. I’m not convinced anything will come of it as Tomlinson is contracted and hasn’t requested a trade as yet.

The Blues have reportedly put Levi Casboult up as a trade option, with Brisbane interested at the moment. Tom Bell is set to move from the Blues to the Lions as well and the Lions are likely to look at a deal involving both players.

Gold Coast are expected to ask for Fremantle’s first round draft pick in exchange for Harley Bennell but it’s believed the Dockers will try to secure him for the second round pick.

With Essendon being Bennell’s only other confirmed suitor – and Fremantle his preferred destination – the Dockers second rounder might be enough to get a deal done for the troubled midfielder.

It’s believed Fremantle are planning to offer this year’s first round pick as well as their 2016 first rounder to the Giants for Cam McCarthy.

The Giants have previously declared McCarthy off limits, but might be swayed by the prospect of multiple first round selections.

Hawthorn’s Jed Anderson is weighing up his options. The midfielder/forward has played only ten games in his career but is seen by the Hawks as a future staple of the side as their premiership stars move into retirement.

West Coast, Adelaide, Brisbane, North Melbourne, Carlton and Essendon have all reportedly shown interest in Anderson and it wouldn’t be a surprise to see more suitors emerge.

There’s still every chance he could decide to stay at the Hawks, where he is contracted for another year, but if he does decide to leave then he will clearly have a number of options to choose from.

In better news for the Hawks, Ryan Schoenmakers is off the table, signing a two-year extension with the club despite interest from Sydney and Fremantle.

North Melbourne ruckman Daniel Currie is reportedly asking for a trade having gotten an offer from Gold Coast. The Suns are losing Zac Smith and looking to Currie as a like-for-like replacement.

A number of clubs are weighing up recruiting three-time Geelong premiership player Steve Johnson. Brisbane have had a chat with him and Greater Western Sydney – who reportedly made a big play to trade him in last year – are also showing interest.

There were rumours going around last week that Hawthorn were considering a play for Carlton’s Chris Yarran, but it’s believed he is still more likely to head to Richmond.

It’s believed Paul Seedsman will soon nominate one of Gold Coast, Adelaide or North Melbourne as his preferred destination. The out-of-favour Pie has requested a trade and did not attend Collingwood’s best and fairest.

Having lost out in the race for a number of big names, Richmond have turned their attention to Giant Jacob Townsend who has struggled for gametime at the Giants but has impressed at NEAFL level.

There are also some rumours that Geelong free agent Dawson Simpson might be headed to Greater Western Sydney as a possible back-up option for Shane Mumford.

As you can see, it’s going to be a very busy trade period. Let the trading begin!

The Crowd Says:

2015-10-12T21:45:34+00:00

Macca

Guest


13th Man - Look at what I am saying Casboult is worth a first round pick TO CARLTON as if he goes their key forward stocks are Jones and Foster BUT HE ISN'T t worth that to other clubs so a deal won't be done

AUTHOR

2015-10-12T14:09:07+00:00

Josh

Expert


No way the Lions would give up their first pick for a combination of Bell and Casboult, never. I think if they traded pick 21, their second rounder for the pair of them, that would be a good deal for the Lions, maybe at a stretch they would give up pick 17 which they just got from the Eagles.

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2015-10-12T14:07:17+00:00

Josh

Expert


I think Geelong's fortunes next year are still heavily dependent on Mitch Clark, or someone else being able to play second banana to Tom Hawkins at a good level. At the moment there's too much heat on Hawkins and not enough other quality options for goal, but if the Cats can solve that dilemma then they will be force.

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2015-10-12T14:04:45+00:00

Josh

Expert


That's my thinking, yeah, it should help them cover their academy players quite well.

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2015-10-12T14:03:51+00:00

Josh

Expert


Agreed, I can't see a club offering that. I reckon a pick around 20-30 would be more around the mark of what he's worth, but if the Blues are looking for overs as a reason to trade him then what you're suggesting is about right.

2015-10-12T13:27:47+00:00

Dalgety Carrington

Roar Guru


I think they may have blown some of their trading chips with the Redden-Selwood bridge-cross. There also seems to be some interest with a few clubs over east 13th, so maybe more likely to go there.

2015-10-12T13:22:31+00:00

Dalgety Carrington

Roar Guru


His price would exponentially go down next year. According to his manager he's dead set about coming back to WA, whether that's this year or one of the next two. I probably would take the risk and wait, but I think GWS will be sorely tempted by two first round draft picks and the chance to free up some space on their list to boot. If it does go ahead this trade period, expect GWS to spend as long as they can with their chests puffed out on the brink, just ensuring there's some face left for later.

2015-10-12T13:04:54+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


I think the Lions should really take a deep breath and step back for a bit from this trade. Bell had a good season, to be sure - finished 4th in the B&F or whatever it was, but this was in a roster widely regarded as one of the worst in the league, and where a first year player took the honours. Admittedly a very good first year player, but it still shows the shallowness of Carlton's list and the competition he was up against. As others have said, I think we've seen peak Bell this year, I doubt very much he's going to improve from what we have seen. Speaking of shallow markets, the draft is talked about as shallow this year - the only thing shallower is the market for key forwards. Casboult is the equivalent of the deadset minger at the bar at 2:30am - under ordinary circumstances you wouldn't consider it, but dire circumstances call for desperate measures. The only reason he has currency is because there's not much else on offer, so he commands an inflated price. Are these really the players who are going to take Brisbane forward? If this is the new plan - signing players with the right attitude as opposed to talent, well I must admit, the lip is curling in distaste. I'd want to make sure we had enough picks to land Keays and Hipwood before we start spending anything on Casboult and Bell.

2015-10-12T12:35:01+00:00

Aransan

Guest


I don't believe Carlisle is worth $650k, more like $400-$500k. It seems that money is one reason why he wants to leave Essendon. He will be under pressure to earn his $650k and I am sure he will be expected to perform on the forward line as well as the back line to earn that money. I don't believe he performs well under pressure and he certainly showed on a number of occasions that he didn't like playing on the forward line while at Essendon. Carlton fans have been talking Carlisle down while seeming to be very keen to get him. If he goes into the pre-season draft and Carlton pay $650k to get him then I think they will deserve each other.

2015-10-12T11:14:49+00:00

TomC

Roar Guru


There you go. That would be a big blow for the Lions. Another one. Certainly something they'd try to avoid if they could.

2015-10-12T11:07:17+00:00

Wilson

Roar Guru


There was stories earlier that green would not mine going to Carlton under Bolton who was his coach at clarance in tas

2015-10-12T11:04:56+00:00

13th Man

Guest


Not a Carlton fan but I certainly wouldn't want my club paying $650k for Carlisle, he just isn't that good. Carlton might as they are certainly after a KPP.

2015-10-12T09:17:03+00:00

Brian

Guest


Everyone looks goid for next year with no injuries but vardy, menzel, clark all being fit seems a miracle in itself. A few injuries and their bottom 6 looks really weak compared to other top sides. You wouldn't want to mortgage your future just to make top 8. If they dont make top 4 with dangerfield then it wasn't worth it

2015-10-12T09:11:59+00:00

TomC

Roar Guru


Why would Brisbane trade Josh Green?

2015-10-12T09:11:53+00:00

13th Man

Guest


Woosha seems very keen on Leuy so i doubt Giles will be fighting with him for the main spot. He should look elsewhere as I can't see him playing many games at Essendon. Is already behind McKernan and Bellchambers it seems. (that reply was for Stewie btw)

2015-10-12T09:07:56+00:00

Aransan

Guest


Would Carlton pay $650k for Carlisle? You don't reckon he is worth it.

2015-10-12T09:03:27+00:00

13th Man

Guest


No as a Freo fan I am happy with that trade, you don't know what you will get with two picks in the 15-20 range, it is a lottery, you might get a star player (like a Fyfe) or you will get an ok player (De Boer, Suban type) or you will get a complete dud (like Jayden Pitt). At least we know what we are getting with Cam, a good forward target that we know can play in our best 22 straight away yet is only 20 and has heaps of improvement left in him. Yes its a bit expensive but he is the player we need, the Matthew Pavlich replacement (yep big shoes to fill), Taberner is simply not good enough to be our no 1 tall target, he may well become a good second target but is not a no1. Most importantly McCarthy has shown he knows where the goals are which is exactly what we need right now, and I am still thinking Pav will play on next year so he will have a years apprenticeship to the old champ before taking over. I am happy to pay a high price. And it will probably even out as we get someone of Bennell's talent and class cheaply!

2015-10-12T08:51:37+00:00

13th Man

Guest


I'm not sure if Gore will be a future Dangerfield, may well be a good player but i doubt he will be as good as Danger. Geelong are looking at quickly regenerating their list for another flag assault and with all of Danger, Selwood and Henderson coming they look pretty good, will make the 8 next year at least i think. Not sure why they are after Z. Smith, they have a pretty good ruck division with Blicavs, Vardy and Stanley. Would have thought other teams such as Sydney, Bulldogs and Essendon needed him more.

2015-10-12T08:45:29+00:00

13th Man

Guest


And why should they Henderson for a second rounder is about right I think

2015-10-12T08:43:21+00:00

13th Man

Guest


Yeah I don't think you should do any favours for Aish. But if i was a Brissie fan I would be wanting something rather than nothing. Its a tough one but I can't see Aish being at Brisbane next year. Hmm if both Aish and Carlisle go through to PSD then who do Carlton take? probably Carlisle, leaving Aish to be taken at pick 2 by guess who? Brisbane!

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