The Waratahs' scrum problems are self-inflicted

By Spiro Zavos / Expert

Benn Robinson has made the candid admission to The Sydney Morning Herald‘s Tom Decent that poor training is behind the Waratahs’ scrum woes. Good.

This much-needed confession is a first for a player or a coach, for that matter. It is the first time anyone connected with on-field performance of a Super Rugby side in Australia has actually told the truth about a problem that is affecting the performance of his side.

Here are Robinson’s words about the Waratahs scrumming sessions: “Some of the standards we’re accepting at training are not acceptable. That’s across the board, so players coming in and packing against the starting side: it’s not good enough at the moment for me, which is a disappointing thing.”

What Robinson is saying is that there is no method in scrumming practices run by the Waratahs. It is not organised properly. The starting pack is not being confronted at practice by a proper opposition.

By implication this is a direct criticism of Cameron Blades, the Waratahs scrum coach. The comparison between what Robinson is saying about a Blades scrum practice session and a session run by Mario Ledesma, as described by Andrew Logan in a recent and fascinating article on The Roar, is stark.

It is clear from what Robinson is saying that the Waratahs, under Blades, are training for failure.

Moreover, there is an implied warning from Robinson that unless the scrumming practice is more focused and detailed, the Waratahs’ scrum woes will continue to plague the side.

If any of The Roar‘s readers believe that I am being over-dramatic in praising Robinson’s honesty, let them take note of what coach Daryl Gibson had to say to The Australian‘s Brett Harris about the Waratahs’ scrum woes in the match against the Reds.

“I thought our scrum came back quite well. Very well. We endured that first 10 to 15 minute period where the Reds had us under pressure, but then came back well at them. That’s a positive sign,” Gibson said.

No reference to the fact that during the Waratahs’ “came back quite well” period the Reds had their hooker off the field for a yellow card infraction that was caused, in part, by the dominance of the Reds pack.

No mention either of the statistics that indicated the Waratahs gave away six scrum penalties, and presented a scrum that was so demolished that the Reds were (finally) awarded a penalty try.

Gibson explained to Harris that the Waratahs won only 34 per cent possession, a factor that made it “difficult for us to get any flow and any sustained pressure on the Reds”.

The point here is that the pathetic scrum of the Waratahs was an important part of this lack of possession.

Where are the plans to do something about the Waratahs’ scrum woes?

My guess is that Gibson is in denial about his team’s woeful scrum. He appointed Blades as his scrum coach. He imported Angus Ta’avao, a journeyman back-up prop from the Blues, to be a Waratahs starter.

Blades told the SMH he is going to suggest to Gibson that Robinson be given a starting jersey for the match on Sunday afternoon at Allianz Stadium against the Rebels.

I reckon that some properly structured scrumming practice would be in order, too.

The referee for the Waratahs-Rebels match is Andrew Lees. He has shown a partiality to be tough on a scrum he deems to be weaker than its opponents.

If there is no improvement in the Waratahs’ scrum on Sunday, look out for someone in the Waratahs front row to be yellow carded.

***

The match of the round, from an Australasian Group perspective anyway, is the Brumbies-Chiefs clash at Canberra on Saturday night.

The Brumbies are the top Australian side on 17 points. And the Chiefs are the top New Zealand side (and leading the tournament) on 19 points.

The sides are presenting the two leading fetchers in the Australasian Group, David Pocock with the Brumbies and Sam Cane, the Chiefs No.7 and the likely successor to the great Richie McCaw.

Pocock’s great strength is his strength over the ball. He forced four breakdown turnovers against the Cheetahs and, according to Stephen Larkham, was so dominant that his man of the match award was automatic.

Probably there is no player in the game right now who is as strong and effective over the ball as Pocock.

Cane is developing a more all-round game than Pocock’s, in the method of the later years of McCaw. Cane wins the occasional lineout. He runs the ball up hard. He is invariably the link man when the Chiefs’ backs make a break. And his tackling, like that of Pocock, is relentless and reliable.

He is not as good over the ball as Pocock. But then not even the great McCaw was Pocock’s equal in that area. Against this, Cane does not give away as many penalties as Pocock does.

The Brumbies slaughtered the Hurricanes in the first game of the season at Canberra. But last year they struggled against a more organised New Zealand side like the Highlanders.

The Chiefs are certain to have a gameplan that complements the brilliance of their smaller players, the sensational Damian McKenzie, Aaron Cruden and Brad Weber.

These three players, among the smallest in the tournament, combined brilliantly to allow the Chiefs to defeat the Jaguares with a try (scored by Brad Weber) right on time.

Robbie Coleman, the Brumbies’ small attacker, had a terrific game against the Cheetahs. But the Chiefs trio present problems for opposition, especially when they combine with the form inside centre in the tournament, Charlie Ngatai, that teams are finding hard to solve.

So we will have this interesting match-up of an Australian side with a bruising pack that is good in the set pieces with a biggish and confrontational back line, up against a New Zealand side that struggles to get parity in the forwards but is lethal when play starts to move away from the set pieces.

The Australian Angus Gardiner is refereeing the match. I rate him as the best of the current batch of Australian referees. I have followed his career ever since he refereed the Michael Cheika Waratahs playing the Rebels in a friendly down at Hobart, in Cheika’s first outing.

The one weakness in Gardiner’s refereeing is a tendency to throw out yellow cards as if they were confetti. Young referees tend to do this.

Hopefully Gardiner has matured enough as a strong, confident referee (I believe he has) to allow the game to be a contest between two terrific teams, both of them well coached, with 15 players on each side going hammer and tongs at each other.

***

Talking about the referees allocated for Round 6, there is a curious selection for the Lions-Crusaders match played in South Africa on their Friday night.

The referee is Stuart Berry. The TMO is Johan Greeff. And one of the assistant referees is Craig Joubert. Fast forward now to Saturday, South African time, and the Bulls-Cheetahs match at Pretoria. The referee is… Craig Joubert!

Why isn’t the best South African referee, and one of the leading referees in world rugby, handling the most important match in South Africa at the weekend, the Lions-Crusaders match?

Berry, for his part, has a history of provoking the anger of overseas teams for some of his rulings.

SANZAAR is always telling up that the most appropriate referee for each match is appointed. It is very clear that Berry, with his history of making bizarre decisions, along with Greeff, another perpetrator of bizarre TMO decisions, are not the most appropriate referees for this crucial match.

I noticed last weekend that most of the referees took the initiative when the TMO was involved. They would spell out what they saw and ask the TMO if this is what he saw as well.

This technique was initiated as far as I can ascertain by Joubert and Nigel Owens. It was a reaction, I reckon, to their perception that some of the TMOs were too forward in coming forward with their interventions.

Let’s hope that Todd Blackadder won’t be able to say (as he did after the match against the Sharks which was refereed by Jaco Peyper) that he was “mystified” about a yellow card ruling against one of his players.

The Crowd Says:

2016-04-02T23:42:40+00:00

Two Cents

Guest


How do you like them Chiefs now?

2016-04-01T12:11:37+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


I do believe that some teams have said in their match reports "Johan gave us a lot of grief". :)

2016-04-01T12:03:28+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


Well said Chookman, pretty much as how I read it. :) And now some chook jokes. Read in SMH a couple recently. One man has named the henhouse in the back yard as "aubergine" as in egg plant. Even better, a lady called her chookhouse as "Cluckingham Palace".

2016-04-01T11:51:53+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


From TWAS above "Paddy Ryan has 62 caps. Jeremy Tilse 48. Ben Daley has 80." All three may have got about 50 NSW caps each, but nearly all were as reserves, playing the last 15-20 minutes against other teams' reserves.. I would be more impressed to know how many games have they actually started? Who is the better prop, the bloke who has started in 40 odd matches in the last 3 seasons or the bloke who has come on as reserve in 60 matches in the last 4-5 seasons? Its pretty apparent who the coach thinks is No 1.

2016-04-01T04:46:02+00:00

Dave_S

Guest


Interesting then that Hello also does not consider what you are describing as actual bias.

2016-04-01T02:49:47+00:00

Kuruki

Roar Guru


Agree with you Will, although i think the Chiefs victory over the jaguars was a very good win. I'm tipping them to get a lesson in playing with composure and a strong set piece from the Brumbies, who will simply hold the ball and make the Chiefs work hard for anything they get. I will be very very impressed if the Chiefs can win in Canberra, which i highly doubt. Hopefully i'm proved wrong. Another positive for the Chiefs has been the injury toll in the backs which has seen a pretty settled backline by Chiefs standards anyway. The one player i am not looking forward to returning is Andrew Horrel, as he will cause the start of endless chopping and changing of the backline positions and effectively take the Chiefs current strength away.

2016-04-01T02:41:27+00:00

Kuruki

Roar Guru


Have never rated Angus. Have heard him being touted as a future All Black before and i was scratching my head as to why anyone would think that. There is nothing he does that has impressed me and he certainly is not a strong scrummager.

2016-04-01T01:01:31+00:00

Buk

Guest


Ta'avao made a massive impact in Taranaki's games when they won the NZ provincial competition in 2014. In terms of what he does around the field I would rate him extremely highly - in fact I was looking forward to him going to the Reds (I thought he was originally ?) & adding some real starch to their around the field play, defence and offence. However he is quite tall, and I guess an issue when packing down against lower opposition. Can those issues be fixed by good scrum coaching - I would sure hope so, because Ta'avao offers so much in his all round play. As to moving around franchises or teams - hard to generalise there - Naholo & Fekitoa both changed from Blues to Highlanders to get game time, and pretty sure Blues wished they had kept them. Been a few Aucklanders leave the region because they were behind some established world class player.

2016-03-31T23:24:46+00:00

Markus

Guest


Nor develop a viable alternative on the loosehead side to Robinson, a player whose form has fluctuated over the years and who has always had a fairly poor work rate for a professional player. Their track record really is not good in this area over the last decade. Even Polota-Nau was converted from a number 8 to a front rower through the Brumbies academy not the Waratahs.

2016-03-31T22:51:43+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


Sorry late into this discussion. Im with dopplerman somewhat. Whilst Tahs scrum turned around in the first part of the season, it dropped off towards the end Die hard, Reds are not the only team that has a decent scrum. Rebs are solid, Brumbies are v good, Force is also respectable. The have concentrated on a solid scrum since EM convinced all of them it is critical for Aus Rugby to master It is was only Check and NSW who were unconvinced. Gibbo, needs to turn things around fast and do it correctly. NOW!!! Best wishes to him and the Tahs in this endeavour in any case, whilst the new CEO settles in. Another NZer.

2016-03-31T21:58:10+00:00

Markus

Guest


I see one of the biggest risks from the Chiefs as the counterattack, so agree that control of possession will be crucial. Handling errors will need to be kept to a minimum, and if they do decide to kick for territory the kicks will have to be decisive and go into touch. Aimless kicks to the back three will be torn apart.

2016-03-31T20:03:58+00:00

Deano

Guest


@Dave S So now you're feigning an ignorance of what neutrality is? Good God. You are either extremely dense or just a contrarian.

2016-03-31T15:22:13+00:00

Who?

Guest


Spiro, I think you're overlooking someone with your ref analysis. It wasn't Joubert and Owens who were the first to tell the TMO what they were seeing on the big screen. It was an Australasian ref. All the folks on the net immediately claimed it was just this ref continuing to chase attention, claiming it was all a big ego grab, another attempt to get himself seen on the big screen. But it worked - he was providing his interpretation of what was shown, ensuring the TMO agreed (with the TMO working in higher resolutions than most big screens provide). Which meant that the same ref was running the TMO as the big screen - which I agree is the better way to run it. So, who was the supposed show pony of a ref..? Steve Walsh. It's to Owens' and Joubert's credit that, despite being significantly different to Walshy in style, they've taken on practices that he used when they believed they would be advantageous to their own reffing style.

2016-03-31T12:21:25+00:00

Hello

Roar Rookie


Hi dave Cultural bias is in reference to subjective decisions (like rugby ref) where they are used to seeing things done a certain way and watch certain things more closely. An example is French ref's many of the will rule on scrums a certain way with dominance then a lot of English ref's make more technical calls. This is not actual bias but but more to do with interpretation. They higher ref's progress and the more they see the less this should effect them. Everybody has this sort of "bias" but the more you expand your knowledge base the less effect it has. That is my understanding of cultural bias and how it effects ref's but I could be wrong

2016-03-31T12:18:25+00:00

Andy

Guest


Not surprised. The wallabies scrum was a mess under blades as well. Better off getting another Argie or European in to coach this element of the game

2016-03-31T11:46:56+00:00

Dave_S

Guest


Accusing a ref of deliberate bias is not holier than thou? Cultural bias in refereeing? Must admit that's a new one for me. Since I already acknowledge d there are bad refs, the next bit is confusing too. Of course there are corrupt sports officials. Unlike some, I like to see evidence before I cast that stone. What constitutes a neutral ref? Does a Qld raised ref of Auckland born parents appear neutral to a Tahs supporter if they are playing the Highlanders? Should refs be declaring a family tree? Are tennis umpires in a doubles match selected according to the ethnicity of the 4 players? Did you even think that bit through? The rest of your argument just assumes there must be bias because you said so.

2016-03-31T11:36:03+00:00

The power of Will

Roar Pro


I would have to agree with Spiro about the problem being self inflicted. They inflicted a great deal of pain when they got rid of Kepu and then signed Ta'avao. However the problem is not only Ta'avao. The waratahs staff did not develop another good prop to settle the scrum after Kepu

2016-03-31T10:28:55+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Yep. Scrum in 2015 was a big improvement from 2014.

2016-03-31T09:58:13+00:00

mused6

Roar Rookie


My tv still has marks on it from a lions v reds match a few years back in joburg, refereed by Stuart berry. Beyond ridiculous, surely he is better these days....

2016-03-31T09:53:27+00:00

Utah

Guest


When the Waratahs signed Ta'avao several Blues fans came on this very website and said he was not the answer for the Waratahs as he was a weak scrummager. I particularly remember one roarer saying every time he came on the field his side of the scrum collapsed. That was a bad sign and so far it's been proven correct.

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