AFL Trade Rumours: The South will feast again

By Josh / Expert

The AFL’s Trade and Free Agency period this season is once again set to be dominated by the exchange of players between the northern and southern states clubs, with GWS and their horde of opportunity-starved youngsters leading the way.

The Giants will no doubt once again see multiple players look to move south this season in search of greater playing opportunities as their strong form and wealth of senior talent continues to put the squeeze on their youth’s ability to get games and develop.

Jack Steele, Adam Tomlinson, Cameron McCarthy and most likely Caleb Marchbank all appear exceedingly likely to seek trades away from the club. Steele and Marchbank are both out of contract, Tomlinson and McCarthy both sought and were denied trades last year.

Meanwhile the likes of Jonathon Patton, Paul Ahern, Jarrod Pickett, Will Hoskin-Elliott, James Stewart and Jake Barrett will all likely have questions asked about them by opposition clubs as well, though only Barrett of these five is out of contract.

The good news for the Giants is they’re not really losing any locked-in best 22 talent here, with only Patton of those listed being a regular player for the Giants this season – and hardly their most important. It would be a hit to their depth if some or most of these players depart, but they’ll get plenty of currency back in exchange.

There’s three things the Giants are going to be looking for: Picks in this year’s draft and next so they can build up points with which to draft academy players, mature recruits, and most intriguingly, the No.1 draft pick.

The Giants drafted nothing but academy players last year and it looks like that could once again be the case with plenty of talent available to them this year.

Will Setterfield and Harry Perryman, versatile players who can feature in multiple areas of the ground, look to be the leading prospects for them at this stage will Setterfield a strong chance to feature in the top ten of the draft. Also in the mix, tall defender Harrison Macreadie, midfielder Kobe Mutch, and possibly some others as well.

They’ll want plenty of points, though they already have a significant amount saved up through trading in future picks in last year’s trade period. They go into this trade period with the first round picks attached to Collingwood and Geelong’s positions already in hand.

Whether or not the Giants will land a mature recruit is a more open question. They have consistently added mature talent to their list from other clubs over the last few years, recruiting the likes of Shane Mumford, Heath Shaw, Joel Patful and Steve Johnson. We know they’re looking for a small forward, with Fremantle’s Michael Walters being a high priority, as part of a potential deal for Cam McCarthy – however, given Walters’ strong ties to the Dockers and Ross Lyon, that particular scenario seems unlikely.

The No.1 draft pick, though, that is a very serious, very realistic possibiity and would be a significant deal in the history of the comp. It hasn’t been traded since 2001, when Fremantle sent it to Hawthorn in a deal for Trent Croad and Luke McPharlin (it didn’t work out great for them). The Hawks used it to pick Luke Hodge and the rest is history.

Essendon will, barring an unexpected turn of events, have the No.1 pick this season but for the first time in a long time there really is no clear standout talent in the draft, with a handful of different players potentially in line.

Essendon have already indicated a willingness to trade the top pick, possibly for a deal that would find them a mature key forward partner for Joe Daniher. Jonathon Patton – a former No.1 pick himself – would be a perfect acquisition in this case, if he were willing to join the Bombers, and the deal could involve other players and picks as well. It might not need to involve Patton at all.

Imagine that – the Giants could very well be coming off a preliminary final or grand final appearance or even a premiership, and yet find themselves holding the No.1 draft pick regardless. It’s a scary thought. But they’re in a unique position to make a deal with Essendon that would be worth their while.

Of course the Giants aren’t the only club set to lose some northern talent this off-season, Gold Coast are the other big one, with star players Dion Prestia and Jaeger O’Meara both seeming virtual certainties to request trades to Victoria.

Prestia is reported to have settled on Richmond as his preferred destination, with O’Meara is still on the ‘open market’ as such, and no doubt every club in the state will have to consider the possibility of getting him in.

The concern of course with O’Meara in particular but also Prestia to a lesser degree is injury – can a club buy them with confidence? Gold Coast will demand a high price regardless of their fitness so if a club is going to bring them in, they’d want to be absolutely certain they can get them back into regular footy.

The Suns also have some academy prospects this year with midfielder Jack Bowes likely to be the first player bidded on from any academy. They too have traded in a wealth of picks for the 2016 draft so won’t necessarilly need more, however, that’s the currency they’re most likely to get.

Sydney also look set to lose one of their young stars to the south this off-season with Tom Mitchell yet to re-sign and seeming more and more likely to make a move to a Victorian club, with Hawthorn the most likely definition.

The Swans have a lot of top-end talent on lengthy contracts so it is all things considered not really a surprise that they’re going to lose a good player to salary cap squeeze. Mitchell’s occasional difficulty retaining a spot in the side and rumours of a rift with coach Longmire make this one no big surprise.

Remarkably after many seasons of leaking talent to the southern states, the Brisbane Lions might be the club least affected this year after successfully re-signing a former top ten draft pick in Sam Mayes. Their only headache is 2014 Rising Star winner Lewis Taylor who is out of contract and reportedly wants nearly half a million per season.

With all this talent coming south, the big question is, where will it all land? It’s difficult to say at this stage with Prestia to Richmond and Mitchell to Hawthorn the only strong links between players and clubs that have really been made to date.

The Hawks have been one of the most regularly mentioned clubs and it seems a given that they will manage to land at least one big piece and maybe two. They used two first-round draft picks last year meaning they don’t need to use another one for three years, so could trade both their 2016 and 2017 firsts this off-season.

However their salary cap must also come into question. They were largely kept out of the trade period last year by simply not having enough room to make a competitive offer, so surely something has to give this season if they’re to bring in a big name? With a number of their veterans yet to re-sign, will we see a handful of heroes forced to retire – or even move elsewhere, Steve Johnson-style – to make room for some next gen talent?

One thing looks certain – with so many talented players looking to come to Victoria, there will be room for most if not every Victorian club to go to the well and see what they bring up. Who lands where, what they wind up costing their new club, and what impact they ultimately have for them, will be the big story of the 2016 Trade and Free Agency period.

The Crowd Says:

2016-08-08T12:59:02+00:00

Dalgety Carrington

Roar Guru


At the time though Freo was all about KPP's and I think they had in mind that they were always going to select Graham Polak with their first pick in that draft anyways (having pick #4 too), who was tearing it up in the WAFL as a 17 y.o. CHF. A different time at Freo, they traded in two KPPs, drafted another with a high draft pick (and brought in Jeff Farmer to boot).

2016-08-08T12:04:18+00:00

alicesprings

Guest


This will probably be the case this time next year as well. GWS have a wealth of talent coming through the system and have to gradually reduce the size of the list for a few more years yet. Gotta love the Riverina!

2016-08-08T08:00:19+00:00

TomC

Roar Guru


I'm sure they are in fact targeting them, whether or not it's getting reported on. They've targeted them in the past, without success. At least Brisbane have.

2016-08-08T07:17:27+00:00

SportsFanGC

Roar Guru


From a Queensland perspective I am somewhat surprised that the Lions and Suns are not targeting any of the players from GWS that are currently surplus to requirements. I imagine that they would probably need to pay a premium to get them to move up here but both these clubs need to improve their depth dramatically if they have aspirations of climbing the table and eventually playing finals footy. You cannot always be going to the draft hoping 18 year old academy kids are going to improve your team - they need some 22-25 year olds with AFL level experience coupled with AFL size and fitness.

2016-08-08T00:06:38+00:00

Winston

Guest


Well he did, and it wasn't just injuries, he's not very fast and his disposals used to be very iffy. The famous 64 disposals in the NEAFL won't mean anything if he gets the ball 64 times and gives it to the opposition's best player 30 times out of that. He's a lot better now, but it was just too late. Had he played better quicker, he might have been up for discussion while they were stll working out the Hannebery or Parker contracts. As things are, he was just nowhere near good enough to be even worth the discussion 12 months ago. I just hope we get some good pick for him. A ruckman would be nice too.

2016-08-08T00:01:24+00:00

Birdman

Guest


Josh, I take your point about Hawthorn's salary cap but they did put their hand up for Carlisle last trade season so presumably they could make room for the right target. I have a hunch Hurley(KPP) and Prestia (inside mid) might be their targets this year with O'Meara and Tom Mitchell being used as smokescreens.

2016-08-07T22:35:32+00:00

SportsFanGC

Roar Guru


The Lions should put an offer to Taylor of take it or leave it for $250-$300K which is currently the AFL average. Taylor has regressed to being a player that runs around in circles, never kicks more than 20m and cannot lay a tackle to save himself yet is asking for $500K? Give me a spell. Put the offer above to him or tell him to go into the draft and see what other clubs are willing to offer. Same goes for Josh Green asking for $400K a year. Both these guys need to watch some footage of Eddie Betts and Michael Walters and then honestly ask themselves - Am I even producing half of what these guys are on a weekly basis for a similar role that I play for the Lions?

2016-08-07T07:22:28+00:00

steve

Guest


TBF, Henderson looked as if he really didn't care and wasn't really trying.

2016-08-07T01:53:28+00:00

MG

Roar Rookie


Mitchell struggled to retain a spot in the side? - kind of but he was on the list for some time initially with unjuriies and then struggled to get in due to lack of fitness because of more injuries. Once he was deemed fit enough he has retained his spot and been best 22 for some time. He got a very generous and long first contract. He was paid very well while being injured. That is now worth nothing and unfortunately salary cap limits proobably means he will go unless the cap goes up significantly with the new deal.

2016-08-07T00:52:05+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Can Luke Hodge play guitar and sing?

2016-08-06T23:12:01+00:00

Bobby

Guest


On this year's form Col, Henderson was clearly worth a first round pick. Just was not allowed to play his best football in the toxic environment of Carlton in the Malthouse era

2016-08-06T23:04:20+00:00

Penster

Guest


SOS' recruiting was akin to shooting fish in a barrel, but what a gig! Must have been like a kid in a candy store with dad's credit card. It doesn't diminish his savvy selections tho - look at the draft picks and concessions certain "basket case" clubs have been handed and p!55ed up against the wall. GWS also has the benefit of no baggage, a fresh and optimistic new culture. Off field talent is every bit as important as playing stock. The old clubs saddled with dead wood boards and good old boys hanging around are the ones that struggle.

2016-08-06T21:55:31+00:00

Col from Brissie

Roar Guru


Come on Josh, does a Silvagni belong at any other club than Carlton? ? Also for turning Troy Menzel (remember him) into Sam Kerridge, Andrew Phillips, Lachie Plowman, Liam Sumner and Jed Lamb I certainly give him a pat on the back. Then ending up with pick 8 for a guy who had basically walked out on the club and most people thought was worth an early second round pick I will give him another pat on the back. He has certainly done a lot better in the job than his predecessors.

AUTHOR

2016-08-06T15:01:55+00:00

Josh

Expert


Not sure really. North made several big offers to players last off-season and didn't get any takers. I suspect they'll do so again this year, throw a lot of darts at the board, it's a matter of seeing if any of them stick. At this stage I can't say I'm particularly hopeful that there'll be any big name additions at North, but who knows? There's a lot of balls in the air at the moment.

AUTHOR

2016-08-06T14:59:56+00:00

Josh

Expert


Ah, I had missed him. Would be good to get him locked up. Thoughts on Taylor? Not worth half a mil, obviously, but...

AUTHOR

2016-08-06T14:59:12+00:00

Josh

Expert


I'll agree he does get more plaudits from the messiah-loving Carlton faithful than he probably deserves, but it's an odd choice of bee to have in your bonnet.

AUTHOR

2016-08-06T14:58:15+00:00

Josh

Expert


Always a big fan of McPharlin, it's more the Croad failure plus the fact that Hodge and Hawthorn came back to bite them that makes it just an okay trade, not great.

AUTHOR

2016-08-06T14:56:36+00:00

Josh

Expert


Not a slight on McPharlin. He was one of my favourites. But I think when you trade the No.1 pick to a club, and they draft a guy who captains them to a premiership win over you, and then two more premiership wins after that, it qualifies as "not working out great".

2016-08-06T14:45:43+00:00

Tim Holt

Roar Guru


I agree ( must be a first between us two ) i was devastated when we lost McPharlin, as was the club. Even more so than losing Croad. He was devastated by OP with us, but in the games he played, particularly one that stood out versus Carlton at PP, he made me drool over his potential McPharlin was an elite key back and a very able forward. One that never got his dues for just how great he was

2016-08-06T14:22:05+00:00

Ronan O'Connell

Expert


"It hasn’t been traded since 2001, when Fremantle sent it to Hawthorn in a deal for Trent Croad and Luke McPharlin (it didn’t work out great for them)." I can't agree with that Josh. Reckon it worked out really well for both clubs. McPharlin played 244 games for Fremantle and was an absolute gun, one of the finest key defenders I've ever seen (plus a hell of a swingman). Given how difficult it is to get a champion key defender, vs getting a champion midfielder, I reckon McPharlin was worth every bit of that no. 1 draft pick. In history there have been 31 no. 1 draft picks...and I would argue that McPharlin had a better career than 29 of those footballers...with only Nick Riewoldt and Luke Hodge having equal or better careers.

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