The 2017 AFL fixture has been released in full! Check out the entire 2017 fixture.
(All times refer to AEDT prior to April 2 and AEST from April 2 onwards)
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Round 1 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Thu March 23 | Carlton v Richmond | MCG | 7.20pm | |||
Fri March 24 | Collingwood v Western Bulldogs | MCG | 7.50pm | |||
Sat March 25 | Sydney v Port Adelaide | SCG | 4.35pm | |||
St Kilda v Melbourne | Etihad Stadium | 4.35pm | ||||
Gold Coast v Brisbane | Metricon Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
Essendon v Hawthorn | MCG | 7.25pm | ||||
Sun March 26 | North Melbourne v West Coast | Etihad Stadium | 1.10pm | |||
Adelaide v GWS | Adelaide Oval | 3.20pm | ||||
Fremantle v Geelong | Domain Stadium | 7.40pm |
Round 2 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Thu March 30 | Richmond v Collingwood | MCG | 7.20pm | |||
Fri March 31 | Western Bulldogs v Sydney | Etihad Stadium | 7.50pm | |||
Sat April 1 | Hawthorn v Adelaide | MCG | 1.45pm | |||
GWS v Gold Coast | Spotless Stadium | 4.35pm | ||||
Brisbane v Essendon | Gabba | 7.25pm | ||||
West Coast v St Kilda | Domain Stadium | 7.40pm | ||||
Sun April 2 | Geelong v North Melbourne | Etihad Stadium | 1.10pm | |||
Melbourne v Carlton | MCG | 3.20pm | ||||
Port Adelaide v Fremantle | Adelaide Oval | 4.40pm | ||||
Round 3 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Fri April 7 | Sydney v Collingwood | SCG | 7.50pm | |||
Sat April 8 | North Melbourne v GWS | Blundstone Arena | 1.45pm | |||
Richmond v West Coast | MCG | 2.10pm | ||||
Geelong v Melbourne | Etihad Stadium | 4.35pm | ||||
Port Adelaide v Adelaide | Adelaide Oval | 7.40pm | ||||
Fremantle v Western Bulldogs | Domain Stadium | 7.40pm | ||||
Sun April 9 | St Kilda v Brisbane | Etihad Stadium | 1.10pm | |||
Carlton v Essendon | MCG | 3.20pm | ||||
Gold Coast v Hawthorn | Metricon Stadium | 4.40pm | ||||
Round 4 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Thu April 13 | West Coast v Sydney | Domain Stadium | 8.10pm | |||
Fri April 14 | North Melbourne v Western Bulldogs | Etihad Stadium | 4.20pm | |||
Sat April 15 | Melbourne v Fremantle | MCG | 1.45pm | |||
GWS v Port Adelaide | Manuka Oval | 4.35pm | ||||
Carlton v Gold Coast | Etihad Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
Adelaide v Essendon | Adelaide Oval | 7.40pm | ||||
Sun April 16 | Collingwood v St Kilda | Etihad Stadium | 3.20pm | |||
Brisbane v Richmond | Gabba | 4.40pm | ||||
Mon April 17 | Hawthorn v Geelong | MCG | 3.20pm | |||
Round 5 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Fri April 21 | Port Adelaide v Carlton | Adelaide Oval | 7.50pm | |||
Sat April 22 | Western Bulldogs v Brisbane | Etihad Stadium | 1.45pm | |||
Gold Coast v Adelaide | Metricon Stadium | 4.35pm | ||||
Sydney v GWS | SCG | 7.25pm | ||||
Fremantle v North Melbourne | Domain Stadium | 7.40pm | ||||
Sun April 23 | St Kilda v Geelong | Etihad Stadium | 3.20pm | |||
Hawthorn v West Coast | MCG | 4.40pm | ||||
Mon April 24 | Richmond v Melbourne | MCG | 7.25pm | |||
Tue April 25 | Essendon v Collingwood | MCG | 3.20pm | |||
Round 6 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Fri April 28 | GWS v Western Bulldogs | Manuka Oval | 7.50pm | |||
Sat April 29 | Hawthorn v St Kilda | University of Tasmania Stadium | 1.45pm | |||
Carlton v Sydney | MCG | 2.10pm | ||||
Brisbane v Port Adelaide | Gabba | 4.35pm | ||||
North Melbourne v Gold Coast | Etihad Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
West Coast v Fremantle | Domain Stadium | 8.10pm | ||||
Sun April 30 | Essendon v Melbourne | Eithad Stadium | 1.10pm | |||
Geelong v Collingwood | MCG | 3.20pm | ||||
Adelaide v Richmond | Adelaide Oval | 4.40pm | ||||
Round 7 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Fri May 5 | St Kilda v GWS | Etihad Stadium | 7.50pm | |||
Sat May 6 | North Melbourne v Adelaide | Blundstone Arena | 1.45pm | |||
Collingwood v Carlton | MCG | 2.10pm | ||||
Port Adelaide v West Coast | Adelaide Oval | 4.35pm | ||||
Gold Coast v Geelong | Metricon Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
Western Bulldogs v Richmond | Etihad Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
Sun May 7 | Sydney v Brisbane | SCG | 1.10pm | |||
Melbourne v Hawthorn | MCG | 3.20pm | ||||
Fremantle v Essendon | Domain Stadium | 4.40pm | ||||
Round 8 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Fri May 12 | West Coast v Western Bulldogs | Domain Stadium | 8.10pm | |||
Sat May 13 | Hawthorn v Brisbane | University of Tasmania Stadium | 1.45pm | |||
St Kilda v Carlton | Eithad Stadium | 2.10pm | ||||
GWS v Collingwood | Spotless Stadium | 4.35pm | ||||
Essendon v Geelong | MCG | 7.25pm | ||||
Adelaide v Melbourne | Adelaide Oval | 7.40pm | ||||
Sun May 14 | Richmond v Fremantle | MCG | 1.10pm | |||
Gold Coast v Port Adelaide | Jiangwan Sports Centre | 3.20pm | ||||
North Melbourne v Sydney | Etihad Stadium | 4.40pm | ||||
Round 9 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Fri May 19 | Geelong v Western Bulldogs | Simonds Stadium | 7.50pm | |||
Sat May 20 | St Kilda v Sydney | Etihad Stadium | 1.45pm | |||
GWS v Richmond | Spotless Stadium | 4.35pm | ||||
Brisbane v Adelaide | Gabba | 7.25pm | ||||
Collingwood v Hawthorn | MCG | 7.25pm | ||||
Sun May 21 | Essendon v West Coast | Etihad Stadium | 1.10pm | |||
Melbourne v North Melbourne | MCG | 3.20pm | ||||
Fremantle v Carlton | Domain Stadium | 4.40pm | Byes: Gold Coast, Port Adelaide | |||
Round 10 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Thu May 25 | Geelong v Port Adelaide | Simonds Stadium | 7.20pm | |||
Fri May 26 | Sydney v Hawthorn | SCG | 7.50pm | |||
Sat May 27 | Western Bulldogs v St Kilda | Etihad Stadium | 1.45pm | |||
Melbourne v Gold Coast | Traeger Park | 4.35pm | ||||
Richmond v Essendon | MCG | 7.25pm | ||||
Adelaide v Fremantle | Adelaide Oval | 7.40pm | ||||
Sun May 28 | Collingwood v Brisbane | MCG | 1.10pm | |||
Carlton v North Melbourne | Etihad Stadium | 3.20pm | ||||
West Coast v GWS | Domain Stadium | 4.40pm | ||||
Round 11 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Thu June 1 | Port Adelaide v Hawthorn | Adelaide Oval | 7.50pm | |||
Fri June 2 | Geelong v Adelaide | Simonds Stadium | 7.50pm | |||
Sat June 3 | Gold Coast v West Coast | Metricon Stadium | 1.45pm | |||
GWS v Essendon | Spotless Stadium | 4.35pm | ||||
North Melbourne v Richmond | Etihad Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
Sun June 4 | Fremantle v Collingwood | Domain Stadium | 4.40pm | |||
Byes: Brisbane, Carlton, Melbourne, St Kilda, Sydney, Western Bulldogs | ||||||
Round 12 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Thu June 8 | Sydney v Western Bulldogs | SCG | 7.20pm | |||
Fri June 9 | Adelaide v St Kilda | Adelaide Oval | 7.50pm | |||
Sat June 10 | Hawthorn v Gold Coast | MCG | 1.45pm | |||
Brisbane v Fremantle | Gabba | 4.35pm | ||||
Essendon v Port Adelaide | Etihad Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
Sun June 11 | Carlton v GWS | Etihad Stadium | 3.20pm | |||
Mon June 12 | Melbourne v Collingwood | MCG | 3.20pm | |||
Byes: Geelong, North Melbourne, Richmond, West Coast | ||||||
Round 13 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Thu June 15 | West Coast v Geelong | Domain Stadium | 8.10pm | |||
Fri June 16 | North Melbourne v St Kilda | Etihad Stadium | 7.50pm | |||
Sat June 17 | Richmond v Sydney | MCG | 1.45pm | |||
Port Adelaide v Brisbane | Adelaide Oval | 4.35pm | ||||
Gold Coast v Carlton | Metricon Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
Sun June 18 | Western Bulldogs v Melbourne | Etihad Stadium | 3.20pm | |||
Byes: Adelaide, Collingwood, Essendon, Fremantle, GWS, Hawthorn | ||||||
Round 14 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Thu June 22 | Adelaide v Hawthorn | Adelaide Oval | 7.50pm | |||
Fri June 23 | Sydney v Essendon | SCG | 7.50pm | |||
Sat June 24 | Collingwood v Port Adelaide | MCG | 1.45pm | |||
Brisbane v GWS | Gabba | 4.35pm | ||||
Western Bulldogs v North Melbourne | Etihad Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
West Coast Eagles v Melbourne | Domain Stadium | 7.40pm | ||||
Sun June 25 | Geelong v Fremantle | Simonds Stadium | 1.10pm | |||
Richmond v Carlton | MCG | 3.20pm | ||||
St Kilda v Gold Coast | Etihad Stadium | 4.40pm | ||||
Round 15 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Fri June 30 | Melbourne v Sydney | MCG | 7.50pm | |||
Sat July 1 | Western Bulldogs v West Coast | Etihad Stadium | 1.45pm | |||
Carlton v Adelaide | MCG | 2.10pm | ||||
Gold Coast v North Melbourne | Metricon Stadium | 4.35pm | ||||
GWS v Geelong | Spotless Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
Port Adelaide v Richmond | Adelaide Oval | 7.40pm | ||||
Sun July 2 | Essendon v Brisbane | Etihad Stadium | 1.10pm | |||
Hawthorn v Collingwood | MCG | 3.20pm | ||||
Fremantle v St Kilda | Domain Stadium | 4.40pm | ||||
Round 16 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Fri July 7 | Adelaide v Western Bulldogs | Adelaide Oval | 7.50pm | |||
Sat July 8 | Hawthorn v GWS | University of Tasmania Stadium | 1.45pm | |||
Collingwood v Essendon | MCG | 2.10pm | ||||
Sydney v Gold Coast | SCG | 4.35pm | ||||
Brisbane v Geelong | Gabba | 7.25pm | ||||
St Kilda v Richmond | Etihad Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
Sun July 9 | North Melbourne v Fremantle | Etihad Stadium | 1.10pm | |||
Carlton v Melbourne | MCG | 3.20pm | ||||
West Coast v Port Adelaide | Domain Stadium | 4.40pm | ||||
Round 17 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Fri July 14 | St Kilda v Essendon | Etihad Stadium | 7.50pm | |||
Sat July 15 | Geelong v Hawthorn | MCG | 1.45pm | |||
Port Adelaide v North Melbourne | Adelaide Oval | 2.10pm | ||||
Gold Coast v Collingwood | Metricon Stadium | 4.35pm | ||||
GWS v Sydney | Spotless Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
Melbourne v Adelaide | TIO Stadium | 7.40pm | ||||
Sun July 16 | Richmond v Brisbane | Etihad Stadium | 1.10pm | |||
Carlton v Western Bulldogs | MCG | 3.20pm | ||||
Fremantle v West Coast | Domain Stadium | 4.40pm | ||||
Round 18 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Fri July 21 | Adelaide v Geelong | Adelaide Oval | 7.50pm | |||
Sat July 22 | Essendon v North Melbourne | Etihad Stadium | 1.45pm | |||
Melbourne v Port Adelaide | MCG | 2.10pm | ||||
Western Bulldogs v Gold Coast | Cazalys Stadium | 4.35pm | ||||
Sydney v St Kilda | SCG | 7.25pm | ||||
Fremantle v Hawthorn | Domain Stadium | 7.40pm | ||||
Sun July 23 | Richmond v GWS | MCG | 1.10pm | |||
Collingwood v West Coast | Etihad Stadium | 3.20pm | ||||
Brisbane v Carlton | Gabba | 4.40pm | ||||
Round 19 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Fri July 28 | Hawthorn v Sydney | MCG | 7.50pm | |||
Sat July 29 | North Melbourne v Melbourne | Blundstone Arena | 1.45pm | |||
GWS v Fremantle | Spotless Stadium | 2.10pm | ||||
Port Adelaide v St Kilda | Adelaide Oval | 4.35pm | ||||
Gold Coast v Richmond | Metricon Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
Carlton v Geelong | Etihad Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
Sun July 30 | Western Bulldogs v Essendon | Etihad Stadium | 1.10pm | |||
Collingwood v Adelaide | MCG | 3.20pm | ||||
West Coast v Brisbane | Domain Stadium | 4.40pm | ||||
Round 20 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Fri August 4 | Geelong v Sydney | Simonds Stadium | 7.50pm | |||
Sat August 5 | GWS v Melbourne | Manuka Oval | 1.45pm | |||
Essendon v Carlton | MCG | 2.10pm | ||||
Brisbane v Western Bulldogs | Gabba | 4.35pm | ||||
North Melbourne v Collingwood | Etihad Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
Fremantle v Gold Coast | Domain Stadium | 7.40pm | ||||
Sun August 6 | St Kilda v West Coast | Etihad Stadium | 1.10pm | |||
Richmond v Hawthorn | MCG | 3.20pm | ||||
Adelaide v Port Adelaide | Adelaide Oval | 4.40pm | ||||
Round 21 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Fri August 11 | Western Bulldogs v GWS | Etihad Stadium | 7.50pm | |||
Sat August 12 | Sydney v Fremantle | SCG | 1.45pm | |||
Geelong v Richmond | Simonds Stadium | 2.10pm | ||||
Brisbane v Gold Coast | Gabba | 4.35pm | ||||
Essendon v Adelaide | Etihad Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
West Coast v Carlton | Domain Stadium | 7.40pm | ||||
Sun August 13 | Melbourne v St Kilda | MCG | 1.10pm | |||
Hawthorn v North Melbourne | University of Tasmania Stadium | 3.20pm | ||||
Port Adelaide v Collingwood | Adelaide Oval | 4.40pm | ||||
Round 22 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Fri August 18 | Adelaide v Sydney | Adelaide Oval | 7.50pm | |||
Sat August 19 | Western Bulldogs v Port Adelaide | Eureka Stadium | 1.45pm | |||
Collingwood v Geelong | MCG | 2.10pm | ||||
GWS v West Coast | Spotless Stadium | 4.35pm | ||||
Gold Coast v Essendon | Metricon Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
Carlton v Hawthorn | Etihad Stadium | 7.25pm | ||||
Sun August 20 | Melbourne v Brisbane | MCG | 1.10pm | |||
St Kilda v North Melbourne | Etihad Stadium | 3.20pm | ||||
Fremantle v Richmond | Domain Stadium | 4.40pm | ||||
Round 23 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
TBA | West Coast v Adelaide | Domain Stadium | TBA | |||
TBA | Sydney v Carlton | SCG | TBA | |||
TBA | Brisbane v North Melbourne | Gabba | TBA | |||
TBA | Port Adelaide v Gold Coast | Adelaide Oval | TBA | |||
TBA | Collingwood v Melbourne | MCG | TBA | |||
TBA | Hawthorn v Western Bulldogs | Etihad Stadium | TBA | |||
TBA | Geelong v GWS | Simonds Stadium | TBA | |||
TBA | Richmond v St Kilda | MCG | TBA | |||
TBA | Essendon v Fremantle | Etihad Stadium | TBA |
Finals Week 1 |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA | |||
TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA | |||
TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA | |||
TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA |
Semi-Finals |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA | |||
TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA |
Preliminary Finals |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA | |||
TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA |
Grand Final |
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Date | Home v Away | Venue | Time | |||
Sat September 30 | TBA | MCG | 2:30pm |
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Leonard
Guest
Any chance that an independent outlet like The Roar can use the traditional names for our football venues, and 100% eschew the (often transient and rubbishy) corporate branding?
DingoGray
Roar Guru
I'm disappointed from a solitary personal point of view... myself and my Sydney supporter mates love getting down to Melbourne to watch the Swans and Lions in separate games in Melbourne. Only 1 round the option this year. Hope we all don't have anything on that weekend.
Reservoir Animal
Guest
"It’s not even a geographically large city." This website would indicate otherwise http://www.citymayors.com/statistics/largest-cities-area-125.html Perhaps Cat hasn't been to Melbourne and doesn't even realise it's bigger than Geelong. Cat still hasn't named a Melbourne club that left their suburban ground by choice.
me too
Guest
St Kilda was a city, until 1994 in fact. But with metropolitan crawl it was considered part of Melbourne long before that. On my last drive through Victoria I noticed Geelong is basically an outer suburb of Melbourne now. Same old, same old. The Cats can count their blessings they're allowed so many home games in their own little boutique stadium.
Redb
Roar Guru
Well Brian, you better report that to ASADA - off you go lad.
Republican
Guest
........that was true once TomC but hasn't been the case for along time. Climate is changing dramatically everywhere and Canberra is no exception in this regard.
Travis
Roar Pro
'Richmond will be premiers in 2017' can I hold you to that? First goal is to avoid the wooden spoon, then avoid bottom 4, then avoid finishing 9th, then the hardest goal of all, winning in the first week of September. All those will be challenges. On a serious note I think Richmond are no better off than Carlton. The round 1 match should be a beauty, winner would be setting them self's up for a big year. I don't think Hardwick is the right man to coach Richmond, he has been at the club since 2010 and has never won a final after having a lot of talent at his disposal (Riewoldt, Martin, Cotchin, Rance, Delidio, Newman). Richmond does have a big supporter base and loyal fans, it is a shame their passion can't be seen on the field. If the players had it they would of already won a premiership.
Travis
Roar Pro
Overall I am happy with the blues fixture. Some more free to air Sunday games and traditional Saturday arvo games against some old rivals. The reality is that the Carlton does not deserve Friday night games until they are seriously pushing for finals. The successful clubs at this point of time Western Bulldogs, Hawthorn, Sydney and GWS get everything that they deserve for playing attractive football. The days of giving the prime time slots to the 'big 4' are over as none of them will make finals in 2017.The people running Carlton especially should have a good look in the mirror as why the club is where it is today. Trigg says he wishes for more Friday night matches; Well start winning games and playing attractive football and the AFL will give back their 4-5 Friday night games, as when Carlton are successful they are a big drawing club
Cat
Roar Guru
Melbourne is Melbourne, east, west, north, south it's all Melbourne. It's not even a geographically large city.
Tricky
Guest
"Rd 1 – Pies host dogs at MCG, could be the dogs’ largest ever home and away game" If that does come to pass it'll be the dogs faithful that turn up. My once popular Pies are no longer a draw card for TV or the stands - we just make up the numbers now and the draw reflects that. No longer is Collingwood a "destination" club, for players or supporters and that is reflective in our membership cliff jump, you guys are the new black!..................... Enjoy!
Tricky
Guest
That pretty much sums it up, as far as I know the footy follower is not interested in the ads unless it's footy-comical
Reservoir Animal
Guest
"We are the only team in Geelong" WB are the only team in Melbourne's western suburbs. But if they wanted to spend millions of dollars to develop tge Whitten Oval and play home games there, we all know what the AFL would say.
Cat
Roar Guru
The legitimacy of sports drafts have been tested in Australian courts. They have passed. The very same arguments used to support the draft can easily be applied to the salary cap.
mattyb
Guest
FBS,let's hope so,a strong Richmond would be great for the completion and there is no reason they can't play Friday's in the future and set the G alight.
mattyb
Guest
Col,what does that have to do with the fixture?strange. Legalities proven,it has never been to court so what is proven? Maybe those guys you now seem to be hiding behind made a good point but nothing has been proven. Also on an opinion website people might be wrong,on some occasions people may think they are right but may change an opinion when hearing somebody else's. I'm not saying that is the case here but surely you don't think genuine people never change their opinion on anything. Are you seriously that ruffled that somebody,whilst discussing the draw,is glad Richmond and Carlton won't be featuring on Friday night? I assume your more upset the born to rule,tragically sad Carlton are no longer being seen as worthy of this time slot. Surely your aware of the standard of football they play and their ongoing ladder position? Surely you don't think we must admire a club that is a shell of its former self,one of the greatest clubs to ever participate in our game,that has been brought to its kness by pure arrogance and is continuing to fail as people such as Silvagni,McKay and Glesson continue to destroy the very fabric of this once mighty club while going unquestioned. Why must Carlton go unquestioned? Isn't this the exact reason this club is now the sad,tragic club it is today? Being cross and dillusional will not repair this tragic state of being. And why must you constantly mention the reigning premiers who are now playing seven Friday night games in comparison to Carlton? Yes the tables have turned but it will take more than just thinking or mentioning the Bulldogs to improve Carltons tragic situation especially when morally questionable characters remain at the top.
Maxirius
Guest
Collingwood has a five day break and plays guess whom on a 7 day break?
Maxirius
Guest
What? Collingwood, as part of a contract between the afl and the mcc, have to play 14 games at the g for the next quarter century and then compete with the two of them for revenues!
Cat
Roar Guru
Travelling to a different city to play a 'home' game at your opponents actual home ground isn't really a home game is it? No other team has to do it.
Cat
Roar Guru
We are the only team in Geelong, who should we be sharing with? sydney and GWS don't share. Brisbane and Gold Coast don't share. RA name one other team in the AFL that has to contribute tens of millions of dollars towards stadium renovations. I'll give you a hint, Geelong is the only one.
Cat
Roar Guru
Need 85k at the G to break even with 25k at KP. Doesn't happen often enough for the risk.