Thursday night forecast: Richmond vs Collingwood

By Cameron Rose / Expert

How to write the Thursday night forecast this week – as the sober football judge, or as the rabid Richmond fan?

As the girl in the taco ad says, why not have both!

Sober football judge
Richmond has beaten Collingwood in three of their last four clashes, with the loss occurring on the last kick of the night in Round 2 last year, when ruckman Brodie Grundy performed the role of sharp-shooting rover after being in the right place at the right time.

Both sides impressed enough in Round 1, with the Tigers taking care of the Blues in better-than-expected fashion, and the Pies outplaying the Bulldogs for the majority of the match, but just lacking some polish at key moments.

Richmond have made three changes, with Ben Lennon at the crossroads replacing Sam Lloyd to offer a more viable high half-forward option. Jayden Short comes in for Taylor Hunt as small defender, with less experience but better skills. Kane Lambert comes in as another inside midfield option after Collingwood’s stoppage dominance last week, replacing Kamdyn McIntosh, who is an outside runner but disposed of the ball horrendously against Carlton.

The Pies lose Travis Varcoe to suspension, but bring in James Aish as a more than competent outside runner, who would have been disappointed not to make the Round 1 side. Mason Cox makes way for the talented Tim Broomhead, losing a tall for a mobile in-betweener. There is a bit of rain scheduled in Melbourne today, and the Pies needed some more defensive pressure inside forward 50.

The two teams looks to match-up well across the ground. Pendlebury versus Cotchin. Treloar versus Martin. Sidebottom versus Prestia. Adams versus Caddy. The Pies would consider themselves just ahead at the top end of the respective midfields, with a fraction more depth too.

Ben Reid will take Jack Riewoldt at one end, Alex Rance wants Darcy Moore at the other. Rance was well beaten by Jacob Weitering last week, and Moore shares similar athletic traits with the Carlton young gun.

Both sides have maligned tall and mid-size forwards, in the shape of Ben Griffiths and Ben Lennon at Richmond, and Jesse White and Chris Mayne at Collingwood. If one of these players can take ten marks and kick a few goals, their team will probably win the game.

Looking for outside-the-square match-winners, Collingwood has a couple of options in Alex Fasolo and Jeremy Howe; Richmond has the freshly-minted small forward lightning trio of Daniel Rioli, Jason Castagna, and Dan Butler.

Richmond kicked a number of crumbing goals last week, sending the ball in high and long to a contested situation, hoping the ball would hit the ground for their smalls to finish the job. Key forwards Jack Riewoldt and Ben Griffiths only kicked one goal between them, but forced enough contests for the crumbers to go to work.

Howe will play a key role with his intercept marking inside defensive fifty, and the more attacks he can repel, preventing those crumbs, will go a long way to setting up the win for the Pies.

Fasolo kicked a match-winning (and career high) six goals in the corresponding fixture last year, and will back himself to offer up a repeat performance against a team that has traditionally had trouble stopping small forwards.

Richmond broke even with the Carlton midfield at clearances last week, while the Pies dominated the Bulldogs in the stoppage situations. If Collingwood gain the ascendency in this area again, which they did early in the JLT Series match when these sides met, it will give them the first chance to kick a winning score, and also prevent the ball from spending too much time in the Tiger forward-line for their smalls to apply pressure and force errors.

Neither side is renowned for polished skills as a unit, with vulnerable members on most lines, and this will be a high intensity, high pressure scrap. Whichever side is able to produce the better skill level under such heat will win the game. Collingwood played too well last week to go down 0-2, and they should just have the edge.

Rabid Richmond fan
Can’t wait for this one, another four points in the bag. Magpies? More like bunnies.

We’ve beaten them three of the last four times, and even the one we lost we actually killed them. Belted them in disposals. Smashed them in hit outs, clearances, contested possession.

The only thing they had in their favour was the free kick count. 26-17! The AFL did that. Likes to have a strong Collingwood early in the season. Bigger crowds, bigger audiences, more money.

The umps tried the same thing in Round 20 last year, but we were too good. In 2015 we beat the Pies by 100 points, and that was us taking it easy.

Scott Pendlebury? Ha. Overrated. Can’t get a touch against the Tiges. He’s only dropped below 20 twice in the last two years. Both against us. No wonder Cotch has a Brownlow and he doesn’t.

Steele Sidebottom? Soft. Jeremy Howe? Once a Melbourne dud, always a Melbourne dud. Alex Fasolo? Only plays one good game a year. Okay, so in 2016 it was against us. He was pretty good last week, he’ll never back that up.

Adam Treloar should have picked Punt Rd instead of joining those ferals, but we’re glad he didn’t. Prestia did. They got the downhill skier. We got the one that understands the concept of team and runs both ways.

Jack will kick six. Who’s going to stop him? Ben Reid? He’ll ping a calf halfway through the second. Dusty kicked four last week, and could have had eight. Almost slotted one from the full-back square. What are the Pies going to do when he puts a barrel through post-height from the centre circle?

Nank the Tank will eat Grundy alive and spit out his man-bun. The only thing worse than Chris Mayne’s hair is his football ability. Tyson Goldsack is still playing AFL! He’d be dropped from our two’s if he could even get a game there.

We’ll be winning alright. Butler five and five. Castagna four and four. Rioli three and three. That’s tackles and goals. Good luck matching that. Most Collingwood players couldn’t hit the side of a barn if they were 20m from it. What are they going to do with a bit of pressure on them? Turnover city.

Richmond by 76 points, and Nathan Buckley to be sacked at half-time.

They’re my Thursday night forecasts. What are yours?

The Crowd Says:

2017-03-30T20:38:52+00:00

Milo

Roar Rookie


Well played Houli - played his most effective game for some time reckon. Thought Lennon played well too and stood up when needed. He would be very disappointed if not there again next week. No standouts but good all round performance. Big test next week, but lets see if they're up for a fight. Go Tiges!

2017-03-30T08:37:05+00:00

Seano

Roar Rookie


Moore shares traits with Wietering? Well they do both have 2 legs, and hair but that's about all they have in common. The fact Wietering has talent does stand out in the comparison though.

2017-03-30T08:00:49+00:00

Tricky

Guest


Fairminded? Yeah suppose you could summarize that. Just write it how I see it

2017-03-30T07:09:44+00:00

Raimond

Roar Guru


You'd think that a two-goal defeat at the hands of the reigning premiers > a seven-goal win over Carlton, but winning form is good form I suppose. Collingwood by 15

2017-03-30T06:34:52+00:00

Theeva Kumar

Roar Rookie


I agree with Milo but at the same time Houli is great with his courage and intent on taking the game on. The one thing he really needs to work on is to stop butchering his high hospital kicks out of defence that leads to turnovers.

2017-03-30T06:25:21+00:00

Julian Noel

Guest


You are way too fairminded for a football thread. Excellent comments. Do you barrack for the Hawks or something?

2017-03-30T05:48:04+00:00

Tricky

Guest


Good writing Cam! love the rabid fan! Good for a laugh and displays the thoughts of a 1 eyed fan! For mine it looks like the midfield of Collingwood will be too much and being round 1 F50 disposal efficiency is inevitable, whether it's this week the next of 4 or 5 from now disposal efficiency will improve - for both teams. If Dusty is allowed free reign (which he won't) Tiges win, if Collingwood tidy up their F50 disposal they'll win - comfortably. It is highly unlikely the Pies will lose the key indicators as they did last week - against the reigning premiers, smashing the dogs at their strengths is no mean feat and if they bring the same intensity as last week it will be another midfield smashing! The Tiges midfield is worth taking note of but they're not the dogs

2017-03-30T04:32:35+00:00

Onside

Guest


A draw .

AUTHOR

2017-03-30T04:08:38+00:00

Cameron Rose

Expert


Lloyd was struggling a bit over the pre-season too. You're right though, it applies to all three dropped.

AUTHOR

2017-03-30T03:05:16+00:00

Cameron Rose

Expert


It's going to be greasy conditions tonight DH, so Collingwood should wear footy boots instead of runners.

AUTHOR

2017-03-30T03:04:37+00:00

Cameron Rose

Expert


Love the detail and the foresight!

AUTHOR

2017-03-30T03:03:55+00:00

Cameron Rose

Expert


All very good commentary Matty, and you're right, the Tiges need to go in a bit lower to some leading targets I think. If Richmond can break even in the middle, it can be enough.

2017-03-30T02:33:31+00:00

Julian Noel

Guest


In good fun. Love your style.

2017-03-30T02:31:40+00:00

Marcus

Guest


Richmond coming off a win is one of the easiest games in the competition. Pies by plenty. Darcy Moore (who is lucky to still be in the side) will kick a few early and then Prettiest Defender in The Game will do something dirty (which Bruce will describe as "out of character") which will see Rance miss rounds 3 & 4. By this time, the Tiges will be 1-3 and not even KB will be trying to save Dimma's job. This is the beginning of the end for Richmond.

2017-03-30T02:02:27+00:00

David mi

Guest


Neither Richmond nor Collingwood will figure in finals come September. So why get excited about a game between two losers!

2017-03-30T01:32:01+00:00

DH

Guest


Every year the winner of Tiges v Carlton is over-rated the next week. Stop Martin and that's Richmond's only real weapon. If Fasolo is a flash in the pan, what does that make Butler and Castagna? Collingwood's depth in their runners will win the match.

2017-03-30T01:16:34+00:00

Penster

Roar Guru


Hawthorn fan, we don't do resilience.

2017-03-30T01:13:12+00:00

Tom M

Guest


The blues were woeful coming out of defence and made some real head scratching mistakes when pressure wasn't even on.

AUTHOR

2017-03-30T01:11:45+00:00

Cameron Rose

Expert


Marchbank was pretty good I thought, under a bit of duress. I think the Blues have got a player there.

2017-03-30T00:30:51+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


I wouldn't say the standard of the Car v. Rich game was poor, just that Carlton has some obvious holes in their list, one of which is a defender capable of playing on Martin when he is forward. The Blue didn't have much choice but to rob Peter to pay Paul; by moving Weitering forward they weakened themselves defensively.

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