Thursday Night Forecast: West Coast Eagles v Geelong Cats

By Cameron Rose / Expert

We’ve all been marvelling at the evenness of this AFL season, and one of the noticeable traits that’s becoming evident is how hard it is to identify a “match of the round”.

This week, there are three such matches that are battling it out for the title, and one of them is most assuredly West Coast versus Geelong as this week’s edition of Thursday night football hits Perth.

Ryan Buckland wrote yesterday about how many ‘eight-point games’ are coming up in the second half of the season, and they are always tantalising prospects. It’s hard to recall a season where there have been more games each round that feel ‘must see’, and carry so much importance.

Geelong has been a funny side to get a handle on this year, just as they were last season, with similar trends taking place. They are often at their worst against lower rated sides, but find their best when taking on those in the upper reaches of the ladder.

The Cats haven’t been overly taxed in the fixture department as it has turned out, yet to play fellow top four powerhouses like GWS and Richmond, and have had a few things go their way at the right time. The jury is still out on their top four credentials.

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West Coast have been a disappointment after letting slip a 6-2 start by losing their last three matches. It hasn’t been a good few weeks for the WA teams.

The Eagles posted a strong away win against Port, and followed it up with a gritty performance when downing the Dogs, which looked to set their season up nicely, but have then lost games to Essendon, GWS and Gold Coast.

West Coast have slipped a long way from their grand final standards of 2015. Comparing this year to then, the Eagles are a three goals worse side offensively, and conceding three more goals a game. That’s a six goal slip, which is why they are now deservedly occupying a rung in the middle of the ladder.

Geelong is obviously being led by Patrick Dangerfield and Joel Selwood, and their match-winning capabilities have been frequently on display for all to see. Mitch Duncan is having a fine year on a wing, while Zach Tuohy has fitted in seamlessly to provide run and drive from half-back.

Those four control a lot of the football for the Cats, and rare would be the foray forward that doesn’t involved at least one of those names. Steven Motlop is always maligned, but also provides a dangerous link between the mids and forwards.

If these five are allowed to have significant impact, the visitors will get the win.

Tom Hawkins and Daniel Menzel are proving a formidable inside 50 duo. Hawkins is moving better than he ever has, and is having his best season as a result. He won’t be there tonight, thanks to the MRP’s ridiculous grandstanding, which gives the Eagles a little edge, and will allow Jeremy McGovern to play with even more freedom than he usually does.

West Coast’s running brigade isn’t as dynamic and balanced as what Geelong has. Luke Shuey is their best mid by a long way, while Andrew Gaff and Matt Priddis do what they do on the outside and inside respectively. Sam Mitchell is providing his usual effectiveness, but hasn’t been shaping games as he did in his Hawthorn days.

While there’s no Hawkins for the Cats, Josh Kennedy is also missing for the Eagles, having failed to recover from his calf injury. With Kennedy out, the focus is always high on Jack Darling.

Darling has maintained a remarkably consistent output across his career, but is harshly judged. He has had some poor moments on the big stage, which leads to a reputation that is hard to shake.

The problem with Darling is that outside his mostly consistent games he has the valleys, but not the peaks. He always throws in a regular single figure possession game, but almost never has matches where he gets 20 touches or more. The last time he topped 20 was 2013. Since the start of 2015, he’s only had more than 16 disposals in a game twice, and they were 17 and 18.

The Eagles have made a mini-statement at selection, dropping the experienced Sam Butler and Josh Hill. The Hill call is a brave one with Kennedy already out, meaning the Eagles are missing two of their top four goal-kickers this year, as well as having Darling coming off a goalless game.

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The emergencies that Adam Simpson has selected are instructive – Chris Masten, Sharrod Wellingham and Josh Hill. Experience counts for nothing if you aren’t producing what’s required on game day.

Tom Barrass coming in, along with Eric Mackenzie and Will Schofield being in the side, suggests that Jeremy McGovern may start forward. The Cats don’t have a tall forward line, so he McGovern isn’t required, and he can stretch the Geelong defence.

So, which team is going to win? Is the overall quality of the Cats enough to negate the West Coast home ground advantage?

Yes, Geelong are coming off three wins against good opposition (Western Bulldogs, Port and Adelaide), but they were all in the comfort of Simonds Stadium. The Cats don’t need to be reminded how potent home ground advantage can be.

West Coast’s season is on the line, and they will know their post-bye four week block consists of Geelong, Melbourne, Bulldogs and Port. Eight point game after eight point game. They will have set themselves for this.

The Cats are chasing a top-four finish, and more than that, top two and a potential home final in Geelong against a GWS or Adelaide.

The scene is set, and we should expect a classic. If either side doesn’t turn up, they deserve to be lambasted. I just can’t call it, so I’m going out on a limb and picking a draw. We haven’t had one this year, even though there’s been a lot of close games, so I reckon we’re due.

That’s my Thursday night forecast. What’s yours?

The Crowd Says:

2017-06-15T16:49:54+00:00

Mattician6x6

Guest


As a west coast supporter I find that is the worse trait our fan base has. One of the primary reasons Fraser Gehrig left west coast was he was sick of the scrutiny and hostile criticism he was receiving from the eagles supporters, effectively we drove a absolute champion away to the saints. You'd think that experience would teach us a lesson but no WCE supporters want to drop half the team after every loss and scape goat certain players with ideas and statements that sound like Gary Lyon has been coaching them in what they shpuld be saying.

2017-06-15T16:33:13+00:00

Mattician6x6

Guest


Mark don't be so certain of your facts, without Kennedy the eagles achieved a 3point loss to gold coast away and a strong team performance victory tonight with 8 individual goal kickers to Geelong's 6. Without Hawkins Geelong's forward line lost structure and as they didn't have a true tall fwd to create a contest like petrie did for WCE or take a strong mark on the lead like darling and mcgovern provided they blazed away with high kicks that were easy for the eagles defenders to intercept. Geelongs can't afford to lose one of their most important players as they lack depth and over rely on selwood, danger, Duncan,Tuohy &Hawkins. Will I be happy to get JK back against Melbourne? Of course, did west coast prove they have the talls to provide structure in his absence? Absolutely

2017-06-15T10:47:00+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


I wouldn't mind his career. He's out of form but he is a very good player. I don't get the kind of fan that does that to a star in the team they barrack for. How good were you GOM?

2017-06-15T10:08:39+00:00

Moose

Guest


Agree with all that Cam. I'm sure tongue was firmly in cheek when the words Powerhouse and Tigers were mentioned in the one sentence....

2017-06-15T10:07:13+00:00

Mark

Guest


Kennedy is a bigger loss. It's not my opinion, it's fact.

2017-06-15T10:00:53+00:00

Bill Main

Guest


Hi Cameron, is it possible to write an article about the free kick count heavily favouring the Eagles at home and losing the free kick count away. I think it just highlights the fact that umpires are influenced by the noise of crowds. It surprises me that journos seem to let this go without comment, I'd really like to hear from the umps boss to see how he tries to justify this anomaly. Btw it's not just the Eagles but they are probably the best example. We'll see what happens tonight.

2017-06-15T09:47:52+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Seems like I have the grumpy moderator tonight. He has already struck me off. Anon you're wrong. Mattic..., you're right about NicNat.

2017-06-15T09:41:54+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Who has the most players to average over 17 disposals per game? That is as relevant as quoting who has kicked over 29 goals. Does it matter if 2 players or 12 players kick the goals? If you rely on only 2, I suspect you are easier to contain.

2017-06-15T09:38:32+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


I agree again. Lamb would have to be the least interested footballer I have seen. Colin Sylvia is a workaholic by comparison.

2017-06-15T09:34:03+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


He'll certainly be missed more than Hawkins.

2017-06-15T09:33:36+00:00

Mattician6x6

Guest


Stand corrected both sides as named.

2017-06-15T09:33:20+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Mitchell's kicks go no more than 10 metres to a team mate..often in a worse position. Nothing is created apart from pressure. He has to retire. Sheed needs to get more of the game time that Mitchell has taken. Partington and Cole offer way more than Mitchell. Mitchell needs to be in a track suit alongside Cox, coaching players on the bench.

2017-06-15T09:31:44+00:00

Raimond

Roar Guru


They are often at their worst against lower rated sides Eagles are currently 9th. Therefore, Eagles by 14.

2017-06-15T09:25:28+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


WC not coming off a bye too?

2017-06-15T08:34:10+00:00

Dalgety Carrington

Roar Guru


The affect of the bye seems to vary depending on the circumstances (which is perfectly logical). The bye seems to be an advantage for those teams who have it first up and are playing those who haven't had it, maybe due to the newly fatigue-ised game being at peak effect on one opponent and not the other. However, when a team is coming off the bye to play an opponent who has had their bye in recent weeks but not the week before, there seems to be an advantage to the team who has got back into the swing of things through continuity of play.

2017-06-15T08:24:33+00:00

Joe

Guest


The first quarter in the Prelim last year. =/ Any doubt that crap was because of the bye (and the extra bye a fortnight earlier)? Wouldn't want to say it cost us a flag, but... uh... yeah... Geelong getting over its bye woes is pretty important to our flag chances I reckon.

2017-06-15T08:20:52+00:00

gameofmarks

Roar Guru


Le Cras is a show pony. He would rather go for a dribble goal with the game on the line than ice the game with a proper kick on goal. Just as long as his hair isn't out of place and he looks good he really doesn't care much about the result.

2017-06-15T07:40:44+00:00

anon

Roar Pro


We can agree on Ross Lyon at least.

2017-06-15T07:24:39+00:00

Mattician6x6

Guest


A question so nice I replied twice.

2017-06-15T07:22:56+00:00

Mattician6x6

Guest


This season it does look that way cat, statically we certainly look for Kennedy a large percentage of the time. For west coast to be considered a good side we need to develop a game plan that not only stifles teams but also lessens the impact of Kennedy not being available. Historically with most teams in WCE position a defensive slog game plan is the usual route IMO

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