Highlights: Wallabies win 40-27, but it was hardly comfortable

New Zealand 37 - Australia 10 Eden Park A thumping !!

Australia's best 7 by the length of the straight is obviously Pocock but he won't get a game there whilst Cheika is coaching. 9. The Under 20s scrum half was brilliant. One to watch. 10 is none of the above. Cheika should have his scouts out at the clubs around the country looking for new talent. With something like 40 Premier Grade Clubs around the country there had got to be some quality 10s out there somewhere.

Cheika does the selections. He's started to clean out the deadwood but still got a few more whose time is up.

Folau isn't in the same league Hodge, Hunt and DHP when it comes to field kicking. In fact his poor kicking is one of the reasons he shouldn't be at 15.

We all agree that there needs to be change. We just disagree as to what change is needed.

Why does Foley line kick, just why, oh why, oh why. Hodge, Hunt and Folau all with longer boots. Mind numbing.

"Lesson learnt" I'd hope the greatest attacking player in the world would already know it's a bad idea to throw a ball into play while no one's looking, 5m out from his own line.

I never said he was the most overrated attacking player in the world. I'll say it. He was nowhere near the best player against Italy, but because he finished off a couple of moves he gets (another) watch.

How did we stress them? We got pumped...

For me the test match at Eden park was a milestone. Although the wallabies lost they managed to stress the all blacks and had a genuine chance of winning the match. I never saw this level of belief or ability under Deans or Mckenzie, at that venue. The wallabies were playing positive, aggressive rugby - the Australian way. You can't compete in modern rugby trying to play a limited game.

Yes even if out of form. Sio Moore Kepu Simmons Douglas Fardy Hooper Genia Foley Kuridrani Folau We are missing 1 starting forward and 3 starting backs. Most importantly though we've actually had some better options come through in the pack (lock and 8) and the backline. Players like Kerevi and Naivalu offer more than what we took the the RWC. But ultimately Cheika cannot get the bulk of the 2015 RWC group to where it was 2 years ago.

Good points especially about blooding new talent. But its not as simple as moving AAA back to LH. We must have a minimum of two first-class THP and two first-class LHP, plus injury cover.

Right on the money Drongo, well said. Sio had the same problem. Our looseheads need to learn technique, the rest of the pack how to work with them, and someone must get in the referee's ear. George Gregan was expert at this, always having a quiet word to the ref, pointing out where the other team infringed. After Gregan's time, Benn Robinson took over that role. Watch footage of those matches - he was always making comments to the ref about what the other pack was doing. Never arguing, just pointing things out. Drip, drip ... Gregan and Fat Cat would bring the ref around to see what they wanted him to see. Is Ledesma still our scrum coach? If so, he needs to wake up and spend a lot of time with our looseheads, because they shouldn't get so easily owned that way.

Yes, but there are ways to combat what was happening to Smith and he just didn't seem to have any idea what they are. He just packed down exactly the same way each time and the result was the same. First thing you do is complain to the referee about his illegal method and keep complaining, every scrum to at least get the referee over on that side. As it was the Italian was definitely angling in to break Smith's bind with his hooker, isolating him and causing him to fall. The hinging claim by the ref was rubbish, he was being popped off the side of the scrum with nothing left to bind onto. The Italian TH angles in and Smith's own lock pushes him forward with nothing to hold him up. The Italian also drove very low making it hard for Smith to stay upright. Great method by the Italian but easier to combat than most would think. First thing it needs is to tell your lock not to push hard until you give him the signal. This will exaggerate the Italian TH's angle and make it obvious to the ref what he is doing. Next you push your head under the TH's Brest bone, then when he tries to force you down it causes pain to his chest. Also you angle in yourself and get your hooker to angle outwards. This will place immense pressure on the TH's neck from both sides and cause him a lot of discomfort. This can be greatly increased by twisting your head around on the breastbone. All of this takes practise and technique and I just don't think these guys even know about it. The dark arts are dying.

Silly. He's clearly more effective because the Tah's won the final in 2014, whereas they lost the final in 2005. QED.

Very succinct. There should be more calling a spade a spade.

I know we have had 3 average tests, and that may in part be due to the fact we are blooding some new players, but in my view, we went backwards by selecting the likes of Carter, Robertson and Higginbotham and did not bring enough new blood in to start with. My biggest problem is that the WBs are almost always monstered by the top tier teams. Surely you want to bring in the young guns that have that key ingredient of at least being the right physical specimen for TEST RUGBY. Look at the Scots and Irish and Eng Front rowers - they are large bodies, same for NZ/SA. This is where TEST RUGBY is won/lost. We get the go forward, and then unleash our world class backline and we'll win a lot more tests. Front row - Ainslie (WF) and Thor (Reds) should be blooded NOW, and have the potential to be upto the level required. Keep Kepu at T/H but with Sio disappointing again, I'd look to move Alaalatoa back to L/H. 2nd Row - Tui (in squad but not used) and Richie Arnold look to have the goods to play at test level, and have the size and go forward which is so lacking in the likes of Carter (and Simmons previously). Tey back up Rory A and Coleman. Back Row - The likes of Tui (2nd row or 6) , plus young guys like Enever and Matt Phillip should be tried at 6. Make Timani a permanent no.8 and build the back row around him, he has the bruising go-forward game for test rugby. Bulk up young Hanigan and Dempsey and we have a reasonable back row, along with Hooper (and bring Hardwick along with some minutes - while waiting for McMahon) There is nothing wrong with our back, but why did Naivalu only come in against Italy, after a good EOY tour. We keep chopping and changing - we now need to settle on a 13 (Kuri, Kerevi or Hodge ?) - and keep the system used against Italy where DHP was often seen at 15. Genia/Foley is the best we have - so stick with them for now. Keen to hear your views roarers !

Why is he more effective than McKenzie?

Finally a rational comment regarding Cheika. I rate him highly - definitely a more effective coach than Deans or Mckenzie. Deans didn't grow the team he stifled them, remember when we couldn't buy a try? Deans started well but appeared to lose all faith in his own team after the World Cup. He actually picked the brand o'connor for 10 against the lions - says it all. Macca talked a good match he was super confident of beating the all blacks but was shown up big time. Like Deans he quickly lost the playing group by spouting rubbish and put his own ego above the team. Cheika's worked wonders given the talent available, and instils belief and confidence in the players.

It's not hard to get EJ. As I said above, Macqueen had top performing super teams to select from. Cheika has, on mass, shocking teams to pick from. Is it any wonder the Wallabies are poor. Is it any wonder the ABs were fantastic yesterday when you consider their super teams. Hansen didn't coach Cody Taylor to pick the ball off his shoe laces, that's just expected when you enter the AB camp.