Tell your story walking Israel. The NRL doesn’t want your crap

By Tim Gore / Expert

“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it” – Evelyn Beatrice Hall.

“It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” – Mark Twain

Both of these sentiments are directly relevant to Israel Folau right now.

The best thing about that whole situation is that it is Rugby Australia’s problem and not in the NRL’s court at all.

And that’s the way it should remain.

However, as soon as the code-hopping lad from Minto (that’s in Queensland!) made it clear that he’d walk away from his lucrative Rugby Australia contract if necessary rather than retract his views, there have been plenty of murmurs about him being snapped up by NRL clubs.

Let me make something perfectly clear to you Israel: The NRL doesn’t want you. Keep walking.

Firstly, he walked out on league in 2010 for the wads of filthy lucre that the AFL threw at him. While he was far from the worst AFL player I’ve ever seen, I think we can all agree that it was a wasted two years for him and his prodigious talent.

(AAP Image/Paul Miller)

Then he decided on rugby union – not league – when he brought the curtain down on his Aussie rules foray.

The idea – now he is embroiled in a public relations disaster purely of his own making – that NRL CEO Todd Greenberg would be in a lather to ratify any contract for Folau to play NRL is laughable.

Greenberg is fervently trying to shift the NRL narrative to talking the game up. And right now he has plenty of goodwill and public support for what seems to me like the first time in his reign.

This year he has already had to contend with the Matt Lodge furore, as well as the mooted Todd Carney comeback.

I’d suggest that he needs to add an unrepentant, homophobic mercenary to his load right now like he needs to add a large hole to his skull.

And even if Greenberg did decide to register a Folau contract, you can bet it would have distinct conditions attached to it. Just like you’d expect Lodge’s and Carney’s contracts would have strict conditions about no alcohol, violence or misbehaviour, it’d be a pretty good bet that Folau would be required to keep his homophobic beliefs firmly to himself.

The very fact that Folau is prepared to walk away from his lucrative rugby contract rather than retract his statement that all homosexuals will go to hell is a very clear indication that he is highly unlikely to cede to any such stipulation.

And the NRL has come too far in relation to diversity and inclusion to blow it all by recruiting a walking public relations meltdown.

(Photo by Mark Nolan/Getty Images)

Of course I’ve heard many voices in the Twittersphere arguing that Folau has done nothing wrong whatsoever.

The chief lines people are using to defend Israel Folau’s homophobic public stance is that he is:
a) entitled to his own views
b) not hurting anyone and that
c) it’s nothing to do with his job.

Let’s examine those assertions.

a) is certainly correct. While, unlike in the United States of America, freedom of speech is not a right guaranteed by law in Australia, we all assume and act like it is. That’s a good thing.

So yes, Israel can sprout his homophobia publicly. I don’t think he should say such ignorant and hateful things, but he can say them – as long as he’s not inciting vilification or violence of course (and some could argue that he is).

b) is most certainly not true. Folau’s comments do hurt people. Every time someone comes out and says that homosexuality is wrong, immoral, bad, etc it has the capacity to deeply hurt the mental health of homosexual people. Just consider the words of Welsh Rugby World Cup referee Nigel Owens – who struggled with his homosexuality to the point of attempting suicide in his youth:

“When you’re in a position of privilege like [Folau is] there comes a responsibility with the way you convey those beliefs…There are young people out there taking their own lives, feeling like I did…And that’s what I wish people would think about and the way they convey their opinions.”

I myself was vilified, attacked and ostracised during high school for being gay. Ironically the primary antagonist was the big football star/bully in my year who – decades later – came out of the closet himself.

While part of me would like an apology, the truth is that I’ve already forgiven him. Imagine the pain he was in. However, at the time all I knew were the attacks and vilification. It was horrible. I was resilient enough, arrogant enough and stubborn enough to live through it.

That I wasn’t actually gay was beside the point. But make no mistake: it was the lowest point in my life and the only time when I’ve considered suicide. If I’d heard Ray Price or Peter Sterling say things like Folau has it wouldn’t have helped.

c) is absolutely untrue. Folau’s comments directly affect people in his workplace. For a starter Nigel Owens is a leading rugby union referee and Folau has just publicly said that he’s going to hell. Israel has just publicly vilified one of the people who is responsible for managing his workplace.

That’s just dumb. In the NRL our undisputed best referee – Matt Cecchin – is gay. He’s a superb and brave referee. Possibly the best since Bill Harrigan. He has the total respect and support of the clubs and NRL HQ.

I don’t know what workplaces the people pushing the ‘it’s nothing to do with his job’ argument operate in, but you can’t be coming into the NRL workplace and disrespect our people and expect it to fly.

Down in the Canberra the women’s rugby league competition is named after Katrina Fanning who is herself proudly gay. A finer human you won’t meet and I’m proud to have worked for her. But Israel says that the rugby league legend is damned to eternal hellfire.

How is that nothing to do with his workplace if he came back to the NRL? How do we justify bringing Folau back into the NRL to Katrina?

Secondly, who on earth is so damn stupid that they make statements like Folau did when the CEO of the Wallabies major sponsor Qantas – Alan Joyce – is openly gay.

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

Some people are actually slamming Joyce for using his position as Qantas CEO to push what they see as his own agenda.

What utter rubbish.

That’s like saying Martin Luther King Jr shouldn’t have used the position afforded to him as a reverend to push the civil rights agenda. It’s like saying Rosa Parks should have gone to the back of the bus because the job she was going to had nothing to do with public protests for equal rights.

I guarantee you that Qantas is dedicated to diversity and acceptance and has a detailed policy to support their position. It’s only right that Joyce would stand up for those values and demand that organisations they sponsor also reflect those values.

Does Israel have any idea how hard sponsors like Qantas are to find right now? Does he have any conception that being openly associated with a homophobe may damage their income generation when gay people actively take their business elsewhere? And there are lots of people who are gay and fly places regularly. Do you think Qantas should be fine with Israel jeopardising that chunk of their business?

And do you think the NRL’s major sponsor, Telstra, wants to be associated with Folau’s views either?

Do you think they’d be very happy if Folau came to play in the competition they sponsor? I can guarantee you that Telstra is committed to diversity.

(Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

NRMA has not had a good time of it in regard to Matt Lodge at the Broncos and it is a lesson that NRL HQ will have learned very well. My bet is that they’ll be loathe to repeat the mistake with Folau.

So Israel Folau can say whatever he likes. He can choose his principles and stand for them as firmly and stupidly as he wishes.

However, if he was planning on coming back to the NRL with those publicly stated principles in tow, well he should just keep walking.

The Crowd Says:

2018-04-21T01:44:29+00:00

kk

Guest


As the bible lessons fade to black I am compelled to post. IF should have gone out of his way to praise NO. His incessant whistle is enough to turn gay players straight.

2018-04-21T01:13:50+00:00

ken gargett

Guest


barry, i think you are being a bit harsh on this bloke. he can't possibly have meant it seriously. surely? in this day and age, a bloke who is supposedly at university (and yes, you could be studying something disproved - plenty of people study fiction), honestly asking for scientific proof that water was not turned into wine. i cannot believe anyone seriously asking that. if it was serious, then it will do me. i have now seen/read everything. i'd have given a million to one that no one would say something so truly idiotic.

2018-04-21T01:10:06+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Brilliant...I literally laughed out loud reading that

2018-04-21T01:04:26+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Next you’ll be asking me to prove that there’s no such thing as talking snakes and magic apples... What about zombie Jesus...?

2018-04-21T01:02:05+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


There’s no point having a conversation with someone that believes in fairytales. It’s not up to me to prove that something that is literally impossible didn’t happen. Can’t you see how innately and utterly ridiculous that premise is. Prove to me that Harry Potter isn’t real... If you accept without question that someone did something that defies the laws of nature just because it says so in a book you’re a f..king clown

2018-04-20T22:01:42+00:00

GoGWS

Roar Guru


And there it is...the persecution complex that is baked right into this religion. This is exactly why warning Folau to tone down his comments can’t and won’t work. He sees any adverse reactions to the ‘gays go to helll’ comments as a persecution of his faith and it gives him a hard on. The more you crticise his views to more he likes it.

2018-04-20T21:59:04+00:00

Justin Kearney

Guest


Thought I’d make the 500th comment. Great thread Tim!

2018-04-20T21:15:45+00:00

GoGWS

Roar Guru


I didn’t use the word homophobic- I hate that word for the reason you explained. It’s lazily overused and misapplied. Very few people are homophobic. I call people like Folau anti-gay...and he’s anti-gay because he doesn’t respect that homosexuality is OK, and that homosexuals have nothing to be sorry for with respect to their lifestyle. Folau believes gays are commiting sins for which their is a rather disproportionate punishment of eternal agony in a lake of fire. The point is that we (the public) have every right to crticise silly ideas. The bible has been used, and is still used, to justify all sorts of nonsense....if Folau or anyone else bring those silly ideas to the public arena hey can’t expect us all to nod and talk in hushed tones because they preface their stupidity with “it’s my faith” or “God will”... sorry, unless God shows up to tell me directly then I call BS. I’m not taking Izzy’s word for it..

2018-04-20T12:46:56+00:00

Steve Smith

Roar Rookie


Remember Margaret Court? News of the day people, move on.

2018-04-20T07:13:46+00:00

Mushi

Guest


Didn't he used to be Mormon (who are big on the polygamy) ? Well until it became inconvenient for his career.... I personally am fine with polyamourous relationships, I don't get it personally but love is love if you're happy and not impacting the quite enjoyment of other go nuts out. Legally it does get tough on polyamourous for tax, inheritance and "divorce", but who knows.

2018-04-20T06:55:09+00:00

Mushi

Guest


Did I miss the memo? I thought we voted on gay marriage not forced homosexuality like you are suggesting.

2018-04-20T06:50:55+00:00

Mushi

Guest


I hope it was intentional that you used a factually incorrect 110% on a binary outcome to support someone with a fundamental misunderstanding of science.

2018-04-20T06:47:50+00:00

Mushi

Guest


I love that quote... It assumes that the omnipotent creator can't understand options.

2018-04-20T06:47:14+00:00

John

Guest


At this stage it would be hard to think Folau's words would actually offend homosexual people who have been hearing that crap for most of their lives. At this stage most would dismiss it as a quote from an outdated book and perhaps have a bit of sympathy for the naivety of such a person. Growing up as a person with Chinese descent in Toowoomba back in the 80s I can tell you I was so exposed to racism back then both verbal and physical, to the point where racist taunts/comments even when directed at me have absolutely no effect on me whatsoever. When you hear the same crap over and over again you usually develop a coping mechanism which after a while you give zero f@%&s and would you believe you actually begin to sorry for the ignorance of some people. Whilst I don't get offended, my friends do get offended on my behalf they tend speak up while I have a good laugh. I do wonder if these articles are like an extension of that where people get offended on behalf of others because they think the comments would be deemed offensive.

2018-04-20T06:41:21+00:00

Mushi

Guest


Is it compulsory to answer on Twitter? I might be showing my age here but I thought there was option c) use my judgement and let that go through to the keeper?

2018-04-20T06:37:05+00:00

Mushi

Guest


Relevant information and crosscoder are like oil and water.

2018-04-20T06:33:54+00:00

Mushi

Guest


Let's be honest policing your "thoughts" would be a part time job. No one is saying what you can think, or stopping you from communicating it, just that there are consequences once it has been communicated.

2018-04-20T06:18:50+00:00

Matt

Guest


Haha mate tell that to the thousands and thousands of academics and scientists all over the world who believe the bible. If the bible was disprove I wouldn't be sitting in a university studying the bible right now. Give me a scientific proof that Jesus didn't turn water into wine on one occasion 2000 years ago and I'll listen to you. Oh and it was a miracle, so by definition it has to be outside the normal repeatable way that things would happen in a lab.

2018-04-20T06:18:21+00:00

Mushi

Guest


The pagans put to death, or the muslins invaded, probably had decent cause...

2018-04-20T06:15:11+00:00

Mushi

Guest


Why do we have to respect that? Tolerate sure, but respect - no.

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