Why the Irish could, and the Wallabies couldn't, defeat the All Blacks

By Nick Turnbull / Roar Guru

Their lineout didn’t always deliver, their scrum experienced pressure, they had first choice players out injured and they didn’t always take the points available.

So how was it that Ireland was able to break down the World Champions and deliver a historic first-ever victory over the All Blacks on Irish soil? Furthermore, why had the Wallabies – who themselves have a dubious lineout, an unspectacular scrum and are criticised for not taking points on offer – rarely caused the All Blacks great concern this season?

Firstly, is that the Irish, as opposed to the Wallabies, had the right attitude. Joe Schmidt’s men had no fear of playing the All Blacks and welcomed the challenge presented by the vein expanding Kapa o Pango haka delivered post anthems.

Too often Wallaby forwards find themselves second in the physicality contest when playing All Black hardman Brodie Retallick and co, but both Irish lock Devin Toner and Hooker Rory Best rocked Retallick with shuddering defense that no doubt unsettled the big man and sent the required message.

Mentally the Wallabies and Irish are in two different spaces. The Irish played like a team that knew it could win, the Wallabies when playing the All Blacks played like a team that would like to win.

Jacob Stockdale (Photo by Charles McQuillan/Getty Images)

Secondly, the Irish often chose the ground where the contest was to be fought through their astute decision making. The Irish gave the All Blacks nothing but pressure in both attack and defense.

When the Irish exit their 22 their preferred method is by the box kick that either finds touch or is legally contested. When the All Blacks regained the ball, they were often suffocated by the chase and could not launch their potent counter attack with as much ease as they found against the Wallabies earlier in the year, who appear to have consigned chasing a kick to that of the scrum cap, something of antiquity.

It is a damning indictment on the Wallaby coaching staff that the Wallabies consistently kick the ball back to the opposition uncontested as part of an accepted strategy.

Thirdly, the Irish rarely waste possession and achieve small incremental gains by setting up simple, yet effective running options that can be executed by any player. The Irish played flat on the gain line, not far from the passer, and supported a potential runner with another flat option or a shallow second man play which was just enough to keep the All Blacks guessing.

This structure was complemented by the Irish taking the ball into contact with ferocious momentum and ‘Brockhoff required body-height’ that put the All Blacks on the back foot far sooner than the Wallabies were able to achieve in this year’s Bledisloe contest.

The Irish are not impervious to playing with width, in fact, they looked to put their wingers Stockdale and Earls into space as often as possible with the caveat that they did not receive the ball in a more disadvantageous space that the passer.

The Irish attack is championed by New Zealand convert Bundee Aki who either takes the ball over the gain line or is the receiver of the short second man pass from Johnny Sexton, who sets the foundation of the attack by taking on the line or looping as a dummy runner or second distributor.

Sexton is an exponent of simple rugby executed with precision. Both Sexton and Aki do not look to work far away from their support players which facilitates the recycle and places the opposition under immediate defensive pressure.

Jonny Sexton was strong. (Warwick Gastinger / CC BY 2.0)

In the 208 passes by the Irish on the weekend 30 of those were second man, out-the-back passes but the beauty of those Irish passes is they were short passes, delivered from a flat runner to another flat receiver. The Irish do not entertain long passing behind the gain line that can invite interceptions and unwelcomed pressure on the receiver.

Conversely, the Wallabies look for the width with greater urgency than the Irish who seek it incrementally. The Wallabies have been guilty of standing too deep and playing too wide causing themselves grief and too often working several phases just to get back to the gain line. There is no long-term future with such rugby.

To their credit, the Wallabies were much smarter with their use of the ball on the weekend and played much flatter that yielded them some fantastic field position and scoring opportunities on which some were capitalised upon. None better than the first Koroibete try. However, unlike the Irish, the Wallabies do entertain long second man passes and set up their attacking pods too far from the passer that pressurises the receiver unnecessarily and heightens the risk of intercept.

The width in the Wallaby attacking structure is an issue. It would appear Michael Cheika is infatuated with the dual openside flanker, dual playmaker system as he appears to want to run the opposition off the park by stretching them.

I see no winning future in this brand of rugby in the current international environment and I warn despite some encouraging enterprise against the Italians he should look at how the South African’s and the Irish defeated the All Blacks, and how they English came perilously close to doing so.

They played flat and use a big bodied centre like Aki, De Allende or Te’o to great effect. Samu Kerevi is the ideal man for the role and illustrated against the Italians how effective he can be playing flat on the advantage line and I reassert my support for the selection of Kerevi at 12 and Petaia in the 13-jumper next week.

Both the Irish and the Wallabies should be congratulated for their victories but I fear the Wallabies will be annihilated by England if they do not make subtle changes in both attack structure and at the selection table.

My matchday 23 for England
1. Alan Alalaatoa
2. Folau Fainga’a
3. Taniela Toupo
4. Isaac Rodda
5. Adam Coleman
6. Rob Valentini
7. David Pocock (C)
8. Jack Dempsey
9. Will Genia (VC)
10. Matt Toomua
11. Sef Naivalu
12. Samu Kerevi
13. Jordan Petaia
14. Israel Folau
15. Dane Haylett-Petty
16. Totafu Polota-Nau
17. Scott Sio
18. Sekope Kepu
19. Rob Simmons
20. Michael Hooper
21. Jake Gordon
22. Bernard Foley
23. Adam Ashley-Cooper

The Crowd Says:

2018-11-22T00:50:05+00:00

Cros

Guest


Belief is everything! The Wallabies don’t have it at present. They cannot play for 80 minutes, the forwards are too slow to the breakdown, even basic handling shows a team down on confidence. Mental fortitude at this level should not be a talking point, and yet this is where we are. More of the Wallabies need to stand up. Hooper and Pocock cannot win games on their own. A ‘band of brothers’ approach is required.

2018-11-21T05:27:41+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Nice article Nick - fully agree with your comments about structuring play and simplicity of roles. I'd make minor changes to the team selection but suffice to say I much prefer your proposed group to what we'll see from Cheika.

2018-11-21T05:26:10+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Unfortunately Arnold fractured his eye socket at training last week and has flown home

2018-11-20T22:33:27+00:00

Eugene

Guest


This article gives us hope. Thanks

2018-11-20T10:24:04+00:00

K.F.T.D.

Roar Rookie


Hi Nick, No one should be looking now as this is an old post. But my point was this guard said Goering was the most egotistical, smartest, charming man he had ever met. Could speak multiple languages and was in total control of the courtroom and the men in there with him. But when Lt Staymates quizzed him he said he would never challenge Hitler. Because he didn't want to disappear , not be killed, but he knew he would never be part of the inner circle. A bit heavy for a rugby site, but interesting how heavy personalities can manipulate things.

2018-11-20T01:19:49+00:00

bobbo7

Guest


You also have to remember the Wallabies are playing the ABs every year in the ABs prime of the season. By the time the NH tours roll around the Southern teams have to be tiring after a long season of Super rugby, Mitre 10 Cup and Tests. Not taking anything away from Ireland because they were awesome and thoroughly deserved the win. But they were playing a tiring AB side after a long season and who already won all that was on the line internationally. The Wallabies don't get that luxury.

2018-11-20T00:30:04+00:00

graymatter

Roar Rookie


I like that team but would suggest these couple of changes. Maddocks for Foley Banks for AAC Arnold for Simmons Latu for TPN I just think Foley needs to be rested and do some sole searching on the deficiencies in his game. Some will say Maddocks isn't cover for 10 but I would argue he would make a better fist of it than Foley has demonstrated this season! As well as ACC played Banks deserves a chance. Banks can cover wing and fullback because he can kick! Similarly with Simmons, I think Arnold would unleash a turn-out game as he is desperate to show why he should be in the reckonings - plus his added bulk and aggression would be an asset against Itoje. Latu has got more gas around the paddock than TPN.

2018-11-19T16:10:49+00:00

Armchair Sportsfan

Roar Rookie


KCOL...I wish I shard your optimism that Cheika will fall on his sword. I agree that they've run out of things to say....there's so many things 'to work on' that they don't even know where to start...they can barley identify all the problems, let alone their solutions. Unfort nothing I have heard from cheika gives me any impression he would be willing to pull the pin voluntarily...even though it is the right thing to do.

2018-11-19T14:21:08+00:00

John

Guest


I also liked the shoulder Sexton put on him as they both came together - that metre it cost Savea was all Kearney needed

2018-11-19T12:51:23+00:00

Aidan

Guest


Disciplined decision making and non stop pressure - every player knew their job and followed their orders to perfection. It was conservative and genuine breaks were rare but despite the result, NZ are still the world's best and the only way to beat them is to box clever. You can't trade body blows or you'll be minced.

2018-11-19T10:47:09+00:00

Chufortah

Guest


Other factors (and I’m a Walkaby fan, not taking away from Ireland’s excellent game): 1. End of a long season 2. England softened them up the week before 3. Wallabies play them at the start of heir season... suspect if we got some practice against SA and Argies we might stand a bette chance

2018-11-19T10:33:56+00:00

Stu

Roar Rookie


So dbx, you're saying that it is impossible for a player to be affected at all by any emotional aspect to professional sport in any way.. Ok, that's cool. So no matter how much the senior players might think Cheika is a proper knob jockey and he's lost the team, they're all unaffected..? Ok, I see that. What about, say, Folau's extreme "lack of heart and/or attitude" in defence though?

2018-11-19T10:00:19+00:00

Kashmir Pete

Roar Guru


Hi Nick Many thanks for great article. Have a sight difference on your forward pack, but your backline is identical to my pick. Cheers KP

AUTHOR

2018-11-19T08:37:57+00:00

Nick Turnbull

Roar Guru


I feel your pain Hoy.

AUTHOR

2018-11-19T08:24:37+00:00

Nick Turnbull

Roar Guru


Question Mr. Phantom, do you think Sam Whitelock deserved a yellow card when he played the ball from an offside position?

AUTHOR

2018-11-19T08:23:14+00:00

Nick Turnbull

Roar Guru


Cheers mate, will do.

2018-11-19T08:17:33+00:00

K.F.T.D.

Roar Rookie


Hey Nick! If you want to see the complexity of relationships, I urge you to watch on YouTube - Lt Art Staymates and his interviews from the Nuremberg Trials on Goering. He never spoke of this apparently till 60 years after war. Meanwhile love "Blackadder" and their brilliant cast with great analogies of the stupidities of people who work their way into a position of power

2018-11-19T07:46:40+00:00

Phantom

Roar Rookie


And every bounce of the ball coupled with every 50/50 call

2018-11-19T07:42:53+00:00

Phantom

Roar Rookie


Wayne Barnes

2018-11-19T06:44:03+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


“I suspect the team loves Cheika but not the plan.” Yes Nick, I think that may be accurate. Cheika has his way. It’s big bold and passionate. But plans need be more technically complex. The players are loyal to their charismatic coach but the leaders must realise that the emperor has run out of ideas (and 10’s).

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