Beale and Ashley-Cooper stood down after breaching team protocol

Aac actually has some character, not to mention mad skills and a history of excellent performances. Idgaf that he is ‘old’ I would argue that a guy like him is invaluable in the squad, keeping it real, keeping it a game, showing how its done and demonstrating that this nanny state garbage about curfews etc is sctually a massive load of bollocks and does nothing to help the wallabies achieve victory. The problem here is Cheika and ARU.

Perhaps , as many comments are saying , there is more to this than being divulged. Apparently it happened in Wales - but was only notified to the Coach just now. I am curios - inst there a team manager or a head of security or someone , who should be the one aware of such things? for eg. in cricket teams there is a team manager who looks into the logistics and security - leaving the coach to do the coaching. but then cricket has very strict security standards and rules due to the match fixing issue.

"Sir Sir, Mr Hooper sir! Adam had someone in his room sir!". Hate to tell you but it's the Australian way, if there is a rule and it's useless, it gets ignored. I remember going to a Maccas in NZ and there was a long list of who and who wasn't allowed to refill their drinks on the post mix machine. All I could think that in in Australia no one would bother to write that list, because they know it would get ignored.

As a grown adult, I'd parse "no people in my room" to mean, no parties and no bringing back groupies and no mates staying all night. It wouldn't even occur to me that it meant someone normal couldn't pop in to say hello for a few minutes at a reasonable hour.

Have you watched game recently? Beale has been terrible. Should have been passed over ages ago and new talent given a go. like most of this squad.

One aspect

The team could partly redeem ine aspect of the situation by foregoing the Indigenous jersey and running out in the standard strip instead.

It's also possible that Beale's 'misdemeanour' is a lot more serious than flagged. Still doesn't make sense though.

Has no-one mentioned the fact that the WBs are to wear the Australian Indigenous jersey tonight, and their one Aboriginal player has been dropped for a slight misdemeanour? This (Cheika's action) 1. Makes me angry. What was probably a tokenistic nod to Aboriginal Australia (the jersey) now looks to me more tokenistic than ever. I would imagine Aboriginal people will feel insulted. Cheika even reported with some sort of misplaced vicarious pride how Beale during the week had motivated the team with the story of the Aboriginal resistance fighter Pemulwuy having a serious crack at the English colonists (he lost though). 2. Makes me think Cheika is either a very stupid individual for not letting the issue ride until after the England game (there will be a huge backlash of criticism against both Cheika and the 'leadership' group, believe me), or alternatively he is being manipulated by the player group faction. What their motivation could be is a mystery to me. Things don't add up here, I totally agree. One thing I'm pretty sure of - Beale's absence will have a negative effect on team spirit in this game. I reckon the poms will run in a record winning score. Anyone remember Eddie Gilbert?

I'd say its because they have the worst win ratio of any professional wallaby team and breaking team protocols under such circumstances is a slap in the face to anyone who supports Australian rugby - Chieka included. Also, nobody goes back to a rugby players room late at night with 2 friends to have a cup of tea. They deserve their slap on the wrist, why bother defending it?

AAC is a senior player, maybe. Kurtley has the mind of a child so he's never accountable.

It depends how a rule being broken is viewed. And the example that 2 of the most senior team members set for the younger guys. Yes, it was a minor transgression, but it shows an attitude towards the rules and a lack of respect for the team and all the other guys that respected the rules and adhered to them.

So few are doing that it's not worth a generalisation though surely?

I find it hard to believe that they thought it better not to worry the coach before a match against Italy instead to hold it over to the England game. This happened after the wales game so it would seem like there would have been enough time to deal with it before that less difficult match. Unless they've given up on nesting England and were worried they couldn't beat Italy

You apparently didn't notice, or more likely chose to ignore, that the group know each other and that one is AAC's sister-in-law. Bet you had a whole lot more fun going for the sleazy snigger.

This stinks. Seems to me something happened, it was swept under the carpet and covered up, it was leaked somehow this week so Cheika has to backtrack on his line of Beale selection ‘based on form etc.. ‘ and concocts some rubbish about leadership group sitting on it for a week and a half and curiously deciding to bring it up during the England week??? then worse Cheika and Hooper use this whole cover up to get on TV , talk about drawing lines in the sand and try and get some kudos about making strong decisions! Pfft. If Hopper wants to draw a line in the sand , deal with at the time, not in hindsight after a cover up was exposed. There is obviously form for Beale after a number of major stuff ups in the past and Ashley Cooper was the one with Phipps who were seen outside the hotel in Ireland in the very early hours extremely drunk with some girls which kicked off the Dublin player investigation by Link. Waratah players stuffing up again, Waratah coach and captain in cohorts covering it up, especially for Beale. Hooper stuck up for Beale last time he stuffed up in the infamous Link resignation- after he knew Beale was extremely drunk on the flight from Sth Africa when he argued with team officials,( he should have been sent home there and then) which was even after the text incident with the same official. This time the only difference is they got caught out so even worse they have made up a story amongst themselves to cover their tracks. Enough is enough RA. Burn this circus down.

Anybody get hurt? Was the team brought into disrepute by something happening in public? No. So yes. Molehill. By the way some are carrying on its like they won't rest without a Royal Commission!

There is nothing in this to suggest anyone is a dickh€ad. For goodness sakes, they are adults, there was a room visit by a relative and two others. They broke a rule and shouldn’t have. But this is a very minor matter.

Akari if the guest was Rob Horne they wouldn't of broken team rules, you see they not allowed to take WOMEN to rooms.

Good thing James Hunt didn't play international rugby. Ridiculous kneejerk reaction. Grown men pursuing their instincts. Good luck to them. They should have been lauded by their team mates.