Six talking points from A-League Round 9

By perry cox / Roar Guru

‘Tis the season to be jolly, but also enjoy another fascinating round of the season 2018-19 A-League season. This round threw up its share of upsets and thrills, so here are some talking points from Round 9 of the A-League.

Summer is just as competitive as winter

One of the thoughts behind bringing the national domestic football competition into a summer time slot was to protect it as it were from the intense and fiery winter battle with AFL, NRL and Super Rugby.

The thinking was that the domestic football league simply did not have the punch and drawing power to compete with deeply entrenched egg-shaped-ball winter codes with a century’s worth of good will behind them.

The move to summer was to allow football to dictate the sporting landscape, and give them a foothold in the national consciousness.

For football, though, it has turned out to be a case of being careful what you wish for.

The summer has not turned out to be the sport-dominating monopoly that the FFA would have hoped for.

While the threat of cricket was always something that the A-League appreciated would not be going anywhere, Test matches don’t generally steal too many numbers, and the domestic first class and one-day scene again was never much of a crowd puller.

But what nobody at the FFA would have planned for was the huge interest and behemoth that would emerge in the form of the BBL.

Then, the domestic basketball league re-emerged to enormous interest and huge numbers.

So football went from being the fourth string winter code to the third string summer code.

The poor A-League can’t seem to win a trick.

Still, the summer endeavour appears worth persevering with.

It is early days for the NBL and BBL, and while the A-League might be going through a bit of a lull at the moment in terms of attendances and viewers, they are still nonetheless building a following.

The A-League may yet get its dream of being the premium sporting product of the summer in Australia, but that is still going to take a lot more time.

As always appears to be the case with the A-League, we continue to watch this space.

Sydney FC, that mighty underdog

It says a lot about the league this season that Sydney FC defeating Perth is a case of one for the underdog, or at the very least, was a surprise.

It was literally only last season that Perth were struggling for finals, while Sydney appeared to be in a canter to finish another season with a major/minor double.

Glory supporters celebrate a goal. (Photo by Paul Kane/Getty Images)

A mere eight months later, and it is (or was) Perth riding high on an unbeaten start to the season that saw them atop the league, while Sydney had to contend with an embarrassing home loss to Wellington and a hard fought win against the Wanderers thanks, in part, to playing against ten men for the majority of the match.

Make no mistake, Sydney are not, and will not be for a fair while, the David to anyone’s Goliath, and nor do I think they would want it that way.

Sydney are for all intents and purposes one of the biggest clubs in Australia, and whatever poor run of results may be going their way in the short term (and to be clear, Sydney have had a whole two losses in their first nine games this season), they will remain a big club for a fair while yet.

Friday night was by no means a case of the underdog travelling away for a hard fought, dogged win over the ladder leader.

It was a simple case of the monster re-emerging, of Goliath reminding David why he is feared.

It was a statement game from the big dog, reminding all and sundry, that you never underestimate giants.

The Phoenix is rising

After Round 1 of this season, I was critical of Newcastle as they lost their first up match, coming off hosting a grand final no less, for losing to the lowly Wellington Phoenix.

Nine rounds in, and a 2-1 loss in Wellington is looking like a pretty good result for a travelling team to NZ, when you consider the string of results that Wellington have put together in the first third of this season.

After that third of the way through the season, Wellington’s good form is no longer something you can ignore.

They are entrenched in the top six, they are playing great football, they had an amazing win over Sydney (in Sydney), and now have followed it up with a clinical destruction of a lowly Brisbane opponent.

Make no mistake, Wellington are the real deal, and with Nathan Burns still not yet in his best form, they can actually potentially get better.

Now, if only the New Zealand public would embrace them, Mark Rudan may be onto something.

Two points lost, one point earned

Draws, when you think about them, are intrinsically curious phenomena.

In theory, neither team should be happy or upset when a game finishes with spoils shared.

Melbourne City coach Warren Joyce. (Photo by Paul Kane/Getty Images)

Nobody wins, nobody loses, and while everyone gets something, nobody gets everything that they wanted.

Of course, draws rarely end with both teams finishing the game feeling equally similar in their emotions, and Saturday night’s Melbourne Derby was the perfect case in point.

One team celebrating, one team distraught, yet 1-all she finished, with the spoils indeed shared.

Does it say much about Melbourne City that they celebrated a late draw like a win, equally, does it say much more about Melbourne Victory that they mourned the draw as if it were a loss?

Perhaps.

Of course, it probably says more about the fact that it was a derby, and City were as happy with the point as they might have been with proving to their cross-town rival that Victory would not be so victorious in this instance, and afterall, taking points away from your derby opponent can in itself feel like a win.

The Melbourne Derby is really coming along, particularly when that draw is celebrated by one side like a win.

Always the villain

Say what you like about Matt Simon, and from this card-carrying Jets member, I generally do, but one thing that everyone must say about Matty, is that he is good for the A-League.

As the mainstay of the A-League and a forever loved hero of Gosford, Matt Simon charged toward the voluminous numbers of Newcastle fans having headed in the go-ahead goal in the F3 Derby.

The hate and vitriol going his way was entirely real.

And the A-League needs characters.

Matt Simon is a character, who wears his heart on his sleeve and leaves his effort on the pitch.

He’s certainly not prolific, he’s hardly flashy, but what he is is honest, hardworking, and by gum is he passionate, and he loved every moment of scoring a goal against the most-hated Newcastle rival, for a team that is now winless after nine matches.

I can tell you the Jets fans hated his goal, hated his reaction, but then when the tables were turned later in the match, oh boy did they love giving it to him when the final whistle blew.

And Matt Simon loves to be that focal point.

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He plays the part of the Melodramatic, Machiavellian villain with aplomb, because he is a character that the league, and right now his team, needs.

Nothing like a drought breaker

Goal droughts can be a deceiving beast.

You go a game without scoring, you think it’s not your day.

Two weeks in row, you hope that next week will be your game.

Then two weeks become three, three become four, and next thing you know you’re Jair celebrating your first goal in 12 months as if you’ve just scored the championship winner.

But when your whole team hasn’t scored a goal for 270 minutes (four and a half hours, six halves of football, three full games), players and coaches at Adelaide must’ve been looking over their shoulder for black cats they’d passed, ladders they’d walked under, and all the mirrors they had inadvertently broken.

Football, like any sport, is after all a crazy psychological creature, and when your last team goal was a 49th minute effort against the Roar three rounds ago, the nerves start creeping in.

At half-time against the Wanderers, still with no goals, Adelaide were not just faced with a scoring curse, but the ongoing difficulties of winning at home.

Fortunately for the Reds, Nikola Mileusnic broke that drought early in the second half, and in fact, scored two for good measure, to put the good ship HMS Adelaide back on the path home.

Those 270 minutes leading up to his second half strike must have felt, at times, much longer, but it doesn’t take much to change your club’s fortunes, no matter what has happened in the preceding five hours.

And just to prove that point, no sooner did Mileusnic have Adelaide in delirium with his drought breaking effort and then his lead taking effort, but the Reds were down to ten men and level on the scoreboard mere moments later.

It is a funny game, football.

The Crowd Says:

2018-12-28T10:40:33+00:00

chris

Guest


Its just the same old same old relentless negative droning on and on about the demise of the A-League by people who have never been to a game nor likely to. Yet again Richard Hinds has written an article about the poor poor A-League on the ABC. Thats 4 articles in a row that he has written about "sokkah" and its negative. Whats wrong with these journalists who know nothing about football, have never been to a game, but feel the need to write negative articles about the game?

2018-12-28T10:31:01+00:00

chris

Guest


Author, see if you can respond without taking cheap shots at posters. On what metric, is the NBL ahead of the HAL? That is what you claim, now back it up with facts. Resist name calling.

2018-12-28T10:28:58+00:00

chris

Guest


Not only is it catching up, the author is saying its gone past the A-League. But every time someone points this out, the author says its a minor point of what ever point he was trying to make. What point were you trying to make author? Spreading false stats and just plain making things up? Was that it?

2018-12-28T06:00:57+00:00

Waz

Roar Rookie


It’s that you accepted the statement that NBL was bigger than football. You let that one through to the keeper but you never let anything positive for football in the same way. You get criticism for this, that’s the whinge. BBL crowds are down (after 10 games down 20.39% on the first 10 matches of the 2017-18 season to 197,679 and an average of 19,768. Viewing is down 17%) which points to a tightening economy causing people for forgo sports. So far only AFL seems immune.

2018-12-28T02:09:55+00:00

Nemesis

Guest


No it's not basic statistics. We know that crowds in DEC-JAN fall without BBL. They've actually fallen more for BRI & AUFC when no BBL was played. So, we can be positive that the fall in ALeague crowds in DEC-JAN is not due to BBL. It's due to factors other than BBL. Why can we be so positive? Because we have data that shows ALeague crowds fell before BBL was ever played in Australia. Yes, ALeague crowds fall in Dec-Jan. Have a look around and ask yourself: what else happens in Dec-Jan that is likely to cause crowds to fall. What consistently happens in Dec-Jan before BBL & after BBL? That's the causation & correlation.

2018-12-28T01:58:15+00:00

Redondo

Roar Rookie


I’m simply saying your data suggests but doesn’t prove that the BBL isn’t affecting A-League crowds. It’s basic statistics.

2018-12-28T01:44:17+00:00

Nemesis

Guest


What are you on about? There's no causation because I just showed that the drop off in A-League crowds during DEC-JAN was even greater for Brisbane & AUFC when there was no BBL being played in 2005-06. What possible causation can you possibly think was due to BBL in 2005/06 when BBL was not even played in 2005/06? You don't need market research consultants to work this out. You need basic multiplication & long division skills, or a calculator, or a spreadsheet. Maybe, too much Christmas cheer has dulled some people's basic analytical skills?

2018-12-28T01:26:05+00:00

Redondo

Roar Rookie


Your stats are interesting but a lack of correlation does not imply a lack of causation. I‘d prefer to hear what the BBL and A-League market researchers think.

2018-12-28T01:12:41+00:00

jbinnie

Guest


Karlo - The reason I used the terminology about "time" was simple.Here are some dates for you to consider. 1977 - The establishment of the first truly national football competition in the country. 1984/5 - Summer Soccer first discussed in the "Soccer World" a privately owned Sydney football publication. 1986 - The two confederation set up (an ASF attempt at sudden expansion) introduced ,a "trial" that lasted 3 seasons before being scrapped. 1989- Some 5 years after the original idea was made public the ASF decided to change the NSL to summer. You mention Asia again and it was not until long after the establishment of today's HAL in 2005 that Australia finally gained entry into Asia due to the efforts of one Frank Lowy. So you see the time factor is important in such matters. For your interest a complete compendium of the NSL, it's players,teams ,games, and crowds, is available under the heading- The Australian National Soccer League - Oz Football. Cheers jb.

2018-12-28T00:50:14+00:00

Nemesis

Guest


I say it's limited because the data shows it's limited. There is no greater drop-off of crowds & TV ratings during the NBL & BBL seasons compared to the drop off in crowds & TV ratings when there was no NBL & BBL. Let's look at BRI Roar in 2 random years. Yr1 of ALeague (no BBL) Yr13 of ALeague (BBL is thriving) Yr 1: Brisbane Roar's crowds during the Dec-Jan period dropped 25% when there was no BBL played in Yr 1. Yr 13: Bri Roar's crowds last season during Dec-Jan period fell 9% when there was BBL played Let's do the same for AUFC: When no BBL played in Yr1, crowds dropped 16% during Dec-Jan (AUFC won the Premiership that year) Last season, when BBL was played, crowds dropped 13% during Dec-Jan There is no correlation between BBL seasons & ALeague crowds.

2018-12-28T00:24:33+00:00

Redondo

Roar Rookie


Nemesis, it would be interesting to know just how much the BBL and NBL audiences overlap with the A-League. I suspect it’s more than the ‘limited’ amount you concede, given the demographics of NBL and BBL audiences with many young fans who quite likely follow multiple sports. Nevertheless, the real comparison should probably be based on each sport’s ability to turn participants into fans. The NBL and A-League have the added problem of competing for fans against overseas leagues in their own sport. On that point, critics often claim Australians shun the A-League because overseas leagues are higher quality. The BBL is certainly a counter-example to that argument, with most teams stuffed with no-name cricketers of fairly limited ability.

AUTHOR

2018-12-28T00:09:32+00:00

perry cox

Roar Guru


Great point jb. Absolutely more then happy to admit I was not aware that moves to push football to summer were that early in implementation. But my point still remains. The move was ultimately about better exposure, and to move it in line with global football calendars after becoming an Asian confederation, thereby moving it out of our confederation alignment, makes less sense from an alignment perspective. But the move to summer was as much about removing football from the battle with league and AFL as it was helping to build up the domestic league. I didn't make that part up. As you say, the NSL was dying, crowds and coverage non-existent. The move to summer was about assisting that. I'm hardly a thousand miles off.

2018-12-27T23:49:40+00:00

Punter

Roar Rookie


Or have a very wrong opinion/view on the A-league that most fans have.

2018-12-27T23:33:07+00:00

Nemesis

Guest


From a quick glance at NBL table it appears there have been around 60 matches played this season. Every match is broadcast on PayTV. So far, of the 60 matches broadcast on PayTV only 2 matches have made the Top20 Foxtel programs where a viewing figure is published. The highest TV ratings was 29k. The other 58 matches the likely ratings are around 10-15k. Foxtel pays $0 for the broadcast rights. Foxtel pays $56M per year for ALeague TV rights. If all this information leads anyone to conclude NBL is catching up with ALeague, then those people are not very bright.

2018-12-27T23:24:52+00:00

Nemesis

Guest


There is absolutely no data that indicates NBL, BBL, AFLW, AUS Open, Spring Racing, Test Cricket, Spiegletent, Moomba, F1 Racing, Major Golf Tournaments, etc have any impact on the TV viewing & crowds for ALeague. Simply, the viewing markets have limited - if any overlap. ALeague is a football competition that doesn't even attract the majority of football fans in Australia. So, it's lazy analysis & quite comical for anyone to suggest people who have low interest in football, or no interest in football, would have been watching Aleague if NBL, BBL, etc wasn't playing. Utter nonsense that might be accepted by people with low mental aptitude on other sports forums, but will be exposed on this forum whenever I read such nonsense. Heck AFLW plays for 6 weeks. 46 week off-season to play competition for 6 weeks! Even Ninja Warrior "athletes" play longer seasons.

2018-12-27T23:13:47+00:00

Nemesis

Guest


BREAKING NEWS John Aloisi has stepped down as Head Coach of Brisbane Roar. Darren Davies takes control of the senior team. https://www.a-league.com.au/news/john-aloisi-steps-down-brfc-head-coach

2018-12-27T22:55:26+00:00

Fadida

Roar Rookie


See below MF, the author claimed the NBL was ahead of the A-league, when it is some distance behind

2018-12-27T22:54:24+00:00

Mister Football

Roar Guru


I think Karlo's key point remains valid, that upon the establishment of the A-League there was less competition for the sporting dollar during the Summer. Since that time, we've had many additions to the sporting calendar: the BBL, the re-birth of the NBL and now the women's AFL starts in early February. To this day, it remains the case that the A-League reached its highest ever average attendance in Season 3, at 14,610, a high water mark which may never ever be reached again.

2018-12-27T22:34:07+00:00

Redondo

Roar Rookie


What possible relationship is there between my identity and the truth of what you say in your articles? I could be Satan or Saint Peter or a bot and it wouldn’t change the fact that you make stuff up.

AUTHOR

2018-12-27T12:46:39+00:00

perry cox

Roar Guru


I always love it when I'm accused of fabrication by someone who hides behind a fake username online. The deliciousness of the irony deserves four chefs hats. And you think I'm young. Bless you.

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