Kurtley Beale appears in second video

This calls for an immediate random test whilst he is on holiday in NZ... Wonder what would be found?!?!

@ Train Without A Station that must be correct - but the only difference is Drugs are illegal. i dont know about ur country but in mine there is death penalty for possession above a certain weight this kind of laws are prevalent in Asia and Middle east. noone is taken to prison for keeping liquer - but its a different case for drugs

Good God - it's 4 years ago, leave the guy alone. Real classy releasing the videos one at a time to have a maximum impact. Really poor.

Drugs & the abuse of alcohol is a scrouge in “white” Australia too, not just the Indiginous Australians.

Well I'd prefer to avoid it by the offences not happening, rather than by pretending they aren't happening.

Well yes. If bringing the game into disrepute is what you want to avoid, it absolutely makes sense to deal with wrong doing internally.

Sorry, not buying that at all. By that logic it makes sense to cover up wrong doing. However if that cover up is later exposed then the disrepute is even greater with now two offences. The original incident and the cover up. I'll take open and accountable, every time.

I'm no expert either, but I've read a lot of articles stating that alcohol use is a menace among the aboriginal community. Again, haven't looked at the data, but I would be very surprised if illegal drugs are a bigger issue than alcohol.

Regardless of how the event is released to the media - it brings the game into disrepute. Either it's a bard look. Or it's not a bad look. If RA is the source of the public knowing, any incident is still just as bad a look. If people being found to be involved in unsavory incidents brings the game into disrepute (because it's not the actual doing - it's it being publicized) then publicizing the events yourself is doing that to. Would we have thought any different of Beale punching Gareth Delve on the team bus had it been made public through a RA statement?

I find your line of reasoning truly bizarre. Being open and accountable vs sweeping incidents under the rug is a no brainer to me, in no way can they be equated with regard to bringing the game into disrepute. And I certainly wasn't trying to equate over sleeping and missing a bus with making videos surrounded by what appears to be drugs/use.

Fionn, I guess it comes down to whether culture is something that is important and you want it to be central to your team, or whether it's just a buzz word that has no real place but sounds good when you talk about the team. KB has always been a poisonous chalice in the team and for my mind it demonstrates that culture isn't actually that important to the Wallabies - or NSW for that matter. TBH I don't think his form meets the criteria for getting into the team, let alone his behaviour - but that's a separate issue.

probably cant punish him but he may now fit under a "no D---heads" policy and could just not get picked.

u cannot equate open use of drugs to drinking alcohol . im sure those sort of drugs are banned in aussy - so this is a crime scene. in certain countries certain types of drugs are legal. but not aussy so Beale being at a place where illegal drugs are being used is an issue. recenlty NZ banned some guys - including boyfriend of 7S captain Sara Goss for having/ distributing / meaning to distribute certain drugs. and it had been a case going back to 2015 ( case got lot of news coz of Goss) i think the first thing Beale shud do is to undertake a voluntary drug test - and then apologize to the public. im no expert but i have read a lot of articles that drug use is a menace among the aboriginal community. he shud be setting the standard as a leading aboriginal player - not encourage tacitly.

2015 waiting for something from 2014 :D

It would just look downright silly if they hired one cocaine user (hunt) while at the same time punished another (Beale). With no evidence of kurtley doing anything illegal himself, I don't expect much to come of it.

I don’t know, but I know he seems to get in trouble no matter who he is around.

First vid was 2016, not sure on the second.

TWAS you reckon he might be the bad influence?

Cheika having different standards isn’t treating us for mugs. I’m not saying it leads to the best result or is good management by him. But some people just have blinkers and make dumb decisions.

You’re first sentence is fair. But minor failures to meet team protocol aren’t incidents (eg. The Naivalu example). But most importantly, you think Beale should be punished for tarnishing the games’ reputation, but also want RA to air public laundry and do the same? I don’t think both those views are fair. I though the way the Beale and AAC ban was originally reported to be fair (that they were banned for failure to follow team protocol). We don’t have a right to know every single detail as much as we think we do.