Could a sex tape determine the NRL champion?

By Forty Twenty / Roar Rookie

In an article about the NRL sex tapes in today’s Sydney Morning Herald by Andrew Webster, Todd Greenberg is quoted as such “There would be some murmurings at every club about video content”.

The article went on to say “The club (Penrith) is certain the leaked videos are part of an orchestrated campaign to derail their season because the first of them appeared on social media within hours of Greenberg fining Bulldogs prop Dylan Napa $50,000 for the notorious “Big Papi” sex tapes. An emotional Phil Gould admitted the game and not just his club faced an uncertain season’

“It’s extremely widespread” said Gould referring to filming these sorts of things in this era.

If it’s true that there are a lot more sex tapes out there yet to be released and someone is biding their time for the right moment to release them, then whoever is doing it could prove to be more powerful than the best players and coaches this season.

The disruption to the Bulldogs and the Queensland Maroons’ off-season from the Napa tapes has been significant – it might even derail their chances. It is not difficult to see a situation where this was used intentionally to sabotage a team’s chances by a rival or someone else who wants to see a team’s success undermined.

The current policy may well dramatically reduce these scandals in the future and almost certainly will but unless the NRL modifies it’s policy this season then innocent coaches, fans, players, club owners and sponsors could be copping the fallout as well as the charged player.

With players apparently sharing sex tapes in a ‘widespread’ fashion, what steps can the game take to prevent it? Where sex tapes are out there, what steps can officials take to prevent their release in the public sphere?

Hitting players hard for future sex tape scandals could be a wiser move I believe.

The Crowd Says:

2019-03-08T01:19:11+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


On the 2nd part, absolutely. To make it harder, these bys have been local stars all through their teens and attracting the attention of the girls. By the time they make grade, they are cashed up, beefed up and openly chased by girls. Still doesn't give them the right to shag, denigrate, film and share the footage with anyone but it is a culture they've become accustom too long before they become known NRL players. I could pull holes out of the 1st part just for a bit of Friday fun but I'll save that for another day ;)

2019-03-07T22:41:20+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


It's the information age champion, my location means little. I could be at Moore Park or Mongolia and still see, hear and read everything you have. Yet I doubt my Mongolian mates, who speak very little English would draw the same conclusion from Gould's comments. You've taken “It’s extremely widespread said Gould" who was clearly deflecting from his club, and formed "If it’s true that there are a lot more sex tapes out there yet to be released and someone is biding their time for the right moment to release them, then whoever is doing it could prove to be more powerful than the best players and coaches this season". You assume a lot players from numerous teams have some type of sex tape out there and, further, one (or a group) person has all these tapes and going can manipulate the NRL through a controlled release. One person has a video of one instance with one player - May. It's a ridiculously long bow to draw that this, or another person, is some sex tape puppet master.

2019-03-07T21:29:58+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


3) if you’re getting paid anywhere from 120K to a million bucks a year to play footy and present an acceptable public face of the game...don’t make sex tapes

2019-03-07T21:25:28+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Two things jump out. 1) If the Bulldogs or the Maroons blame the Napa sex tape scandal for derailing their seasons, then they have bigger problems than they know. 2) if Gould (and potentially others) know that this practice is widespread, why hasn’t he done anything about it? I know the game has only just started cracking down on these but surely Gould realises this is not a good look for his players - particularly when the Panthers are positioned as a community club.

AUTHOR

2019-03-07T10:55:01+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


The club right in the middle of the May issue say they have no doubt that it is an orchestrated campaign to derail their season yet the Rocket Surgeon good old Nat somehow decides from hundreds of kilometres away that a poster on the Roar has made up a theory on the topic. Unless you develop even a little bit of logic you should just shut the old beak up, you make such a foool out of yourself.

2019-03-07T10:03:09+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


And your evidence of this is Gould? One person with a vid, broken into 2 (or more) parts of one situation involving May? Did you come up with this theory on the way to a MENSA meeting you genius?

2019-03-07T09:32:45+00:00

db

Guest


Won't someone please think of the bookmakers?

AUTHOR

2019-03-07T08:45:39+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


My stance is still the same , I’m talking about the NRL modifying its policy not mine. The Panthers are sure it’s an orchestrated campaign so maybe you should ring them up and tell them that their ideas are ludicrous. Why would it matter what I understood about the hackers likely jail sentence? It wouldn’t change my view either way. It wouldn’t matter if it was one person or 10 people doing it. Someone had control of Mays tape and released it when it suited them, it’s not some bizarre theory. Numerous posters have ridiculed the suggestion that someone is ready to manipulate the season but it’s already started and it wasn’t hard to predict.

2019-03-07T08:29:30+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


I think fines also need to be part of the deterrent discussion for sure Rob. Although the potential for this type of thing has been around for a while, I'm sure this issue has really caught the NRL unawares and I suspect the other major sports are in a similar boat. I'm sure there's no easy answer and the 3 options the NRL has given itself probably don't cover the multitude if sins. If fines work, great if stand downs work, that's great too, but I think there's a lot more options the NRL should investigate and incorporate into its operating practices.

2019-03-07T08:15:17+00:00

Papi Smurf

Roar Rookie


You raise a very valid point 40/20. You have voiced one of my greatest concerns about the potential for this to be abused in order to manipulate team rosters to have key players removed from big games. Look at the recent attempt by a Roosters employee to entrap Sam Burgess in an attempt to remove him from the game. Although Sam proved he was not involved other players were and it is very disappointing. The fact remains though that the young woman involved herself in a very unprofessional way in not only admitting to her use of Tinder but foolishly putting herself in a compromising position in the first place. I'm not too sure though if a person can call themselves naive if they are a frequenter of Tinder? In any case her conduct reflected poorly on her employer. Yet did the Roosters discipline or censure her for this? No, and their unwillingness to do so gave her actions their tacit approval. But I digress... ;-) “It’s extremely widespread” said Gould referring to filming these sorts of things in this era." Of that I have no doubt. This is a generational problem and not an issue of club culture. Clubs should not be expected to play nursemaid to grown men. They have a duty of care and a responsibility to educate their players up to a point but at some point players have to accept responsibility for their own behaviour for which their needs to be consistent penalties and consequences. To that end "hitting players hard" as you suggest 40/20 may be the only way to get this message to sink in. But this will only work if the penalties are consistent across all clubs instead of cherry-picking sanctions based on a player's importance to the club.

2019-03-07T08:13:57+00:00

Emcie

Roar Guru


If only these guys chose a different industry, they could have built a billion dollar reality tv empire off the back of this.

2019-03-07T07:47:13+00:00

Rob

Guest


I’m against mass suspensions. I’m for fines of the scale where players are on the equivalent of dole payments to play and officials at clubs get whacked that hard they take proactive steps to prevent it happening. Maybe $30k for the first upload viewed and $10k for ever view upto $500k then $5k till you reach the million at which point you get to present a check with you and your mates to Todd at half time in the GF for Bravehearts. I’m sure that will get you some of the admiration you seek and a good feeling of achievement.

2019-03-07T07:05:57+00:00

john

Guest


This could be NRL's version of the fappening. The good news is, if NRL are consistent with the 10% salary fine, this could give the NRL a healthy revenue boost. I wonder if Greenburg will hire a hacker to hack player's phones if they are a bit short on cash.

2019-03-07T06:48:36+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


I don't think anyone can stop a person from releasing these tapes, it's more about how the NRL manages the situation if/when it occurs. My reading is that there are "lots" of tapes out there so lets call "lots", twenty as an example. If these are all released at once and the situation is similar to that of May, the NRL MUST stand down all 20 players, assuming they're charged with a crime by police, because a precedent has been set. If a person had this type of material and wanted to be seriously vindictive, the perfect times to release would be prior to SOO or the finals, as this would garner maximum exposure. It actually makes the action taken by JDB against the NRL even more important to resolve as a matter of urgency. IF the Court finds in JDB's favour and he's allowed to play, it should obviously negate a lot of the impact other tapes should have on teams. IF the verdict falls to the NRL, potentially there'll be a lot of guys sweating big time on their playing futures.

2019-03-07T06:37:32+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


So have you changed your stance from 'play on until proven guilty' to 'no retrospective bans'? 2 things. 1, The idea there is one person with all these tapes ready to manipulate the NRL is ludicrous. There may very well be a large number of tapes out there but you're inferring a coordinated assault. You do understand that person would be spending as much time inside a cell as May would for distributing these tapes. This person is not some underground hero, they are filth of the lowest form hiding under rocks launching grenades with no respect for anyone, especially the girls involved. 2, The answer is quite simple but hard. If you know you have a tape being circulated and at risk of this 'stand down' policy come forward to the club. However, you have to actually be arrested and charged by the police for this to occur. Otherwise, like Big Papi, you may get a few weeks and a fine. This way, the player, club and officials sort out their own punishment and you take all the power from the person leaking the tapes.

2019-03-07T06:33:14+00:00

Rob

Guest


FT l’ve never been concerned about players personal conduct in the bedroom or how many women they have conquered in a season. But they have taken this stuff out of the private arena and put it on public display and it’s become some sort of competition at the expense of victims. I have recently discovered several teenagers have got access to the vision and there is hundreds more kicking around for them see. It’s gutless disrespectful filth and i’m sure it’s going to have a terrible and long lasting effect on everyone involved. If my I children have access to this on their devices in the school yard lt’s not acceptable.

AUTHOR

2019-03-07T06:12:06+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


I agree long term this will blow over Paul. In the mean time do we allow an anonymous figure to release tapes this year and force the NRL to stand players down at key times? Don't stand players down on old offences is my answer. Would you really be happy to see your team lose a couple of players in GF? Strangely enough I think the game could get massive world wide attention if someone was manipulating the season and the notion of all publicity is good publicity could even prove it's worth?

AUTHOR

2019-03-07T06:02:23+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


The editors have done a fine job with my article but they could have left out the most important point. ( unless I was silly enough to leave it out in my submission) The have stood Penrith player Tyrone May down I believe and if they continue to stand players down they are placing massive power in the hands of whoever is leaking the tapes. What if a key player or two in one of this years GF teams is in a sex tape which is released in the lead up to the GF? If the alleged offence is similar to the May tape then they will have to stand the players down if they are to be consistent and probably determine the winner.. That sort of power opens a massive can of worms and the only way to lessen the fallout is to not suspend players for historical events from what I can tell.

2019-03-07T03:38:01+00:00

Rob

Guest


Obviously the me to message hasn’t been in NRL presentations.

2019-03-07T03:11:23+00:00

AE47

Roar Rookie


So someone makes a tape ( with consent) what do you do now NRL ? Soon every players bacground from preferences to political views will determine there suitably to play. A SPORT

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