There is still reason to believe at the Reds

By ZSport / Roar Pro

The Queensland Reds currently sit fourth in the Australian conference with five wins from thirteen games.

And another tight loss to the Chiefs last round makes it sound quite dire for the Ballymore faithful. But there is still reason to believe in Queensland.

I think that despite the moaning and groaning you hear here and there, most Queenslanders, and those around the country would admit that the Reds have done a pretty decent job this year.

Sure, they have not quite produced the results hoped but they have improved significantly upon last season.

Five of their losses have been ten points or less to teams of the quality of the Crusaders, Rebels and Chiefs.

Compared to last season, they lost by less than ten points only three times from their ten losses. In those ten losses, the Sunwolves put sixty points on them, the ‘Tahs fifty and the Brumbies and Rebels also managed to chalk up forty-five each as well.

In a squad full to the brim of exciting young talent, the only way is up for the Reds. The pick of the bunch at the moment you could argue is Tate McDermott.

The Sunshine Coast Grammar graduate is being touted as a possibility for the World Cup, backed by former Wallaby David Campese.

Tate McDermott of the Reds (Photo by Steve Haag/Gallo Images)

Schoolboy sensation, Jordan Petaia, was cruelly injured in the early rounds of the season after an encouraging start in the first few matches.

The Brisbane State High School product is also being talked of highly in rugby circles and has a promising career ahead of him. In the forward pack, you only have to look at guys such as Angus Blyth and Harry Hoopert.

The 2.04-metre Blyth has had some really impressive games in the past few weeks partnering with fellow lock, Izack Rodda. Hoopert, on the other hand, has also had some opportunities in the last little while and was part of the Australian U20’s in 2018.

One of the most impressive aspects of the Reds at the moment, in my opinion, is their dedication to grassroots.

It is not unusual to see a Reds player back playing for their senior club in Queensland Premier Rugby when they have a week off or are allowed to play.

This weekend at the University of Queensland, it was the 2018 Grand Final re-match between UQ and GPS. Having played just 24 hours earlier, it was great to see UQ player Tate McDermott down at St Lucia along with Angus Scott-Young, running drinks and being in around the group.

The message that sends to the younger generation and those in club-land is that club rugby is still a valued part of Reds rugby. This reduces the barrier between the Reds and grassroots level and this is something the Reds (I believe) are doing really well.

Another thing that I have noticed is that there seems to be a decent ‘culture’ at the Reds. I know that ‘culture’ word is a very cliché thing to say around professional sporting teams but there is a reason behind me making these comments.

Many have condemned Thorn for getting rid of Quade Cooper, Karmichael Hunt and James Slipper. And while I believe that these three players are all very good rugby players, I can see where Thorn is coming from.

They all did things that were not acceptable for someone who is portrayed as a role model.

Despite the fact that Cooper and Hunt did excellent stuff around Souths while they were exiled from the Reds, I think Thorn was brave in making the call to not cave in under public pressure. It does send a strong message to current and future Reds players of what is and isn’t acceptable.

Reds coach Brad Thorn (AAP Image/Darren England)

At the Reds vs Waratahs match two weeks ago, there was a moment’s silence before the match. It was great to see Samu Kerevi walk over and link arms with the referees along with the other Reds players and observe the moments silence alongside them.

These actions promote positive behaviour towards our match officials and set a great example for all youngsters sitting in the stands at Suncorp Stadium that night or watching on T.V.

Samu Kerevi always seems to speak diplomatically at post-match press conferences and represents himself and the Reds in a really good light.

I am by no means suggesting that other Super Rugby sides don’t do similar things to the stuff I have mentioned. As someone involved in grassroots rugby in Brisbane, I am merely expressing what I see at club/school level and the brand and image the Reds display.

With a combination of quality players, some good on-field success this season, and what seems to be a healthy culture within the club, the Reds could have the recipe for future success.

Club and school rugby continues to produce exciting prospects and create a healthy atmosphere around our great game. I only hope that the people of Queensland continue to be a part of rugby and stay involved in the game and see long-term, not short.

This Saturday will be a great match against the Jaguares at Suncorp Stadium. The Reds showed tenacity and resilience last week but couldn’t quite get over the line (quite literally).

The Jaguares are in great form and are looking like one of the form sides of the competition.

The Reds will be in their Indigenous jersey this weekend (which looks awesome by the way) and hopefully, a decent crowd rolls through the turnstiles. A win this weekend may revive hope in Queensland that there is still reason to believe!

The Crowd Says:

2019-05-30T22:52:25+00:00

Timbo (L)

Roar Guru


Great article, All the reds need to do now is to stop them from being injured and keep the euro scouts away. There may be a future

2019-05-30T00:07:07+00:00

numpty

Roar Rookie


Bit late to the party, too busy enjoying SE QLD's autumn weather. I also think there is hope for the reds. They are no easy beats, which is more than can be said in recent years, the average age of the squad is a touch above 20, and they are doing it with far less star players than any other aus SR team. Thorn needs to be given time! Why must there be an endless witch hunt for someone's head. If the reds are doing terribly, then what to think of the rebels and tahs when they are only a few pts ahead with that much extra talent and time together as a squad! I for one, am excited to be a reds supporter going into 2020. I could not say the same for many other aus SR teams.

AUTHOR

2019-05-29T21:16:44+00:00

ZSport

Roar Pro


KCOL - thanks very much mate. Agree that Thorn didn't have any recent incidents to go off and there is something that we still do not know re Thorn and Cooper. I love our game mate and I hate to see slowly fading out (as it may be at the moment). Any positives need to be spoken about as much as possible because there also a lot of negatives we could be talking about. Thanks again for the effort and time you put into your comments and your feedback is much appreciated.

2019-05-29T12:47:11+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


And Zanden. It was a good article. But for the issue I raised your words were full of positivity for the Reds and for our code, which is good. Well done.

2019-05-29T12:42:00+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Zanden, Thanks for your response and the effort you put into it. I am not going to trivialise those acts on your list which, if true, are not signs of a committed professional. However, how any of those acts, the last of which was 5 years before Thorn’s tenure, could be used to justify Thorn’s 2018 decision is a long bow to draw. The lumping of Cooper’s ‘historical’ transgressions in with two recent substance users as you did in the article gave Quade an unfair association in my view. Historically there has always been a mob set up to hunt, in constant search for a witch. Cooper for reasons well-known (or excuses, depending on who you speak to) has attracted the derision of such a mob. None of us, knows the whole truth, including the negative truth. We would do well to not pretend that we do.

2019-05-29T12:38:34+00:00

Gray-Hand

Roar Rookie


If Thorn cared about players being banned from pubs, drunken assaults and damaging taxis, George Smith wouldn’t have played a single game.

AUTHOR

2019-05-29T11:07:28+00:00

ZSport

Roar Pro


Hi KCOL, Thanks for your feedback. Will look to improve on further articles. Mate, Cooper did a lot of positive things for Souths rugby during his time while exiled from the Reds and I appreciate that. I understand that this stuff is a long time ago, but the man has a decent rap-sheet. 2013 - ejected from a pub after clashing with hecklers while heavily intoxicated 2012 - boozy incident and scuffle with patrons in Brisbane with Kurtley Beale 2012 - fined and suspended for breaches of the code of conduct 2012 - banned from bars on Stradbroke Island after scuffle 2009 - fined after 'food-fight' in a hotel with James O'Connor 2009 - fined after breaking the window of a taxi while wrestling with a friend I totally understand that these incidents were a long time ago but these sorts of things may have lingered in Thorn's mind. Thanks for the feedback.

2019-05-29T08:11:15+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Well played, Jacko. Thank you for the apology. Let’s move on with robust, healthy and respectful debate.

2019-05-29T07:21:21+00:00

Gray-Hand

Roar Rookie


Pfft. The words of your post speak for themself and the meaning is clear to everyone. Even with all the spelling and grammatical errors.

2019-05-29T07:12:07+00:00

Jacko

Guest


Ken i didnt say it was hate speech, I referred to you as a Thorn Hater. I apoligise for that as we have more than enough controversy around so called hate speech and i will refer to you as someone who dislikes Thorn's coaching methods and dislike some of his decisions. I hope you accept my apology .

2019-05-29T07:04:36+00:00

Jacko

Guest


Thank you so much for proving me 100% right where from your post of what I said you can clearly see I have questioned "isnt he a muslim? " so I clearly have not stated............ "he is a muslim" ........and also I have clearly not said he hates gays as you stated........ I have stated that ....." I hope no one asks him where gay people go when they die"..................... I do appreciate the proof that you were wrong as I couldnt find it as quick as you did.......Now im just waiting for the apology as your deliberate twisting of what I said is low!!!!!

2019-05-29T06:57:40+00:00

Doctordbx

Roar Rookie


He resigned before they could sack him. Wish Cheika would do that.

2019-05-29T06:38:23+00:00

Jacko

Guest


You may be right there DR as on QCs wiki site it says....... In 2013, Cooper played in all of the Reds' Super Rugby games. After the sacking of Deans as Wallabies coach and his replacement by former Reds coach Ewen McKenzie,..........But on Deans wiki site it says ............... Following the Wallabies 2-1 series defeat to the British and Irish Lions on their 2013 tour and a record 16-41 defeat in the decider,[14][15] Deans handed his resignation into the ARU thus ending his role as head coach of the Wallabies..................

2019-05-29T06:25:02+00:00

Gray-Hand

Roar Rookie


Here you go Jacko: https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/04/18/brad-thorn-may-regret-abandoning-quade-cooper/ Jacko Jacko Guest April 18th 2018 @ 8:54am And isnt Quade a Muslum? Hope no-one asks him where he thinks Gay people go when they die. How many articles are in just the 1 player eh

2019-05-29T06:19:40+00:00

Gray-Hand

Roar Rookie


My apologies, I got that wrong - you referred to him as a ‘muslum’. https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/04/18/brad-thorn-may-regret-abandoning-quade-cooper/ April 18th at 8:45pm. Responding to Cheikmate: Jacko Jacko Guest April 18th 2018 @ 8:54am And isnt Quade a Muslum? Hope no-one asks him where he thinks Gay people go when they die. How many articles are in just the 1 player eh

2019-05-29T06:15:35+00:00

Doctordbx

Roar Rookie


Deans also resigned.

2019-05-29T05:58:51+00:00

Jacko

Guest


jamie I am extremely angry with Grey-hand and his lie that I have said Cooper is a muslim and that I have said Cooper hates gays. That is the level grey-hand sinks too. Get him to prove I said it please as he will not ever be able to prove I said something I have never thought or said. Then come back and see who Deals in facts. Grey hand is a low act

2019-05-29T05:50:09+00:00

Jacko

Guest


Grey-hand you are an out and out liar. I hve never once said anything about Cooper being a Muslim or him hating gays. That is absolute BS and I want you to prove that as you will never be able to. Stop making up extremely derogatory lies please as thats the sort of rubbish that others then start to believe and label me with and it is extremely upsetting so please retract that absolute LIE. If you want to continue with that sort of tactic its extremely easy for me to do the same but I will not sink to the LOW you have.

2019-05-29T05:42:02+00:00

Jacko

Guest


And yet McKenzie resigned but Deans was sacked.

2019-05-29T01:04:24+00:00

Jamie

Guest


Gray-Hand, Facts... facts... Jacko doesn`t seem able to grasp them.

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