Lies and blatantly unfair: Folau slams Rugby Australia

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"being gay" doesn't send anybody to hell. There is only one criterion that God uses to judge the world and determine who is saved and not saved: faith in Jesus Christ. "He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life" (I John 5:12). "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God" (John 3:17, 18). The bad news is that we all deserve to go to hell: "There is none righteous, no, not one," writes the Psalmist (Psalm 14:1-3). "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God," says the apostle Paul (Romans 3:23) – who, by the way, refers to himself as the "chief of sinners" in 1 Timothy 1:15. When it comes to our "works" and the way we've lived our lives, everybody stands condemned, whether gay or straight, black or white, liberal or conservative, old or young. The good news is that God loves us in spite of our sin and has sent His Son Jesus Christ to purchase our redemption. This is what the Christian message is all about: we are all sinners, but we can all be forgiven and born anew through faith in Christ. There's an important difference between feeling gay and acting on those feelings. As with any form of sinful behavior, the transgression comes not in being tempted, but in willfully engaging in activity that is contrary to God's law. Anybody who seriously desires to follow Jesus Christ needs to make it his or her goal to abstain from sexual practices that the Bible clearly identifies as sinful. (From Focus on the Family)

oh IF only they did Kent. The world would be a much better place. Religious fanatics of any description have an overwhelmingly negative impact on human welfare and our planets environment. Mainstream christian religions have had an even greater negative impact because of their influence and power over the past 1500 yrs. If you want proof read "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins. Get your head out of the bible and read some objective, logical science. The difference between you and me is I read and understand all sides of these debates in an objective manner with no prior brainwashing. Whereas you only read the Bible.

ahh don't bother with these ignorant fanatics Sir Neutral :) Their knowledge of the world comes from Youtube, the bible and the Daily Telegraph. There's no hope for them.

Referring to who somebody is naturally as a sin is not tolerance...

TWAS you twit, bigotry is defined as: intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself. The Christian religion is not intolerant of those who have not yet converted. The Christian religion prays for their conversion.

Thanks for the link, unfortunately it is too late in the day for me to fully reconcile the doublespeak that is going on in that clause. s772(2)(a) looks like it clearly backs RA's decision. Could someone please pass this onto his lawyers, we could save them a lot of time. It does read like you could be sacked for being gay if you are a priest in a Folauist religion. Or for being a black if you are an accountant at a white supremacist clan. It boggles the mind to think that organizations with these doctrines are allowed can exist, or at the very least, given tax exemption status.

This is the section: http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/num_act/fwa2009114/s772.html The short answer to your question is no. There is another exception [s772(2)(a)], that RA may very well be able to rely on. A person can be sacked due to their religion if the inherent requirements of the particular position make it necessary. It could potentially be argued that if Folau’s kooky religious beliefs require him to misquoted homophobic bible verses on Instagram then RA can sack him because it is an inherent requirement of the position (high profile player, face of the game etc) to not post homophobic nonsense that alienate the public and potential sponsors.

Not sure how you got to a warning, the language reads like a threat. I still don't understand how you came to the conclusion that hell isn't violent. Have they installed a soft serve bar since I was last there? We are going to have to remake a large number of movies if that is the case.

But Folau's "Rule" book isn't recognized by Australian law. When it is, let's have this conversation, But until then, it stays away from the non-fiction section of dymocks.

They most certainly have their own time. Putting aside the issue of the worthiness of their respective causes, the difference was that Folau’s Instagram profile was of him in his Waratahs uniform, so he was holding himself out as a Waratah in making the post. Imagine if Pocock had been wearing his Brumbies jersey while chaining himself to a tractor. He would have been in a lot more trouble.

Why would the farmer go broke? Which farmer? Do you even know what happened?

Folau’s religious beliefs relating to homosexuals have been well known for years. It never stopped anyone from playing with him or supporting him. The tide only turned against him when he selfishly put his personal beliefs above the good of the game.

Yeah a suggestion that people are treated differently based on their sexuality couldn't possibly be discriminatory ...............

People post such rubbish to twist events and the narrative in their favour

Yeah surely the 95% of religious content he has posted without any ramifications from RA is easy evidence to demonstrate that he has not been targeted for being a Christian.

https://www.fwc.gov.au/termination-employment/unlawful-termination "An unlawful termination claim attracts a reverse onus of proof. This means that once an employee (or an industrial association entitled to represent the employee) makes a claim that the employee was terminated for one or more unlawful reasons, the employer will have to show that the termination was not for one of these reasons." Seems the onus of proof may be on RA. In saying that, I don't think they will have any difficulty.

That’s usually how it is, but not in a 772 application. He just has to allege that it he was sacked because of his religion and the onus is then on RA to show otherwise. That is laughably easy. All they have to do is point to the code of conduct, the offensive post and the written decision of the 3 extremely well qualified legal practitioners who got given the gig to ensure that it would stand up to Court scrutiny later. That will show that he was sacked for posting a blatantly homophobic message in breach of the code of conduct. The onus then flips back to Folau to prove that he was really sacked because he is a Christian. At some stage, Folau is going to have to convince a Court that his religion requires him to post homophobic messages on Instagram. That’s going to be pretty difficult, because Judges aren’t stupid.

Actually, Christianity has only been around for 1989 years. Jesus didn’t start preaching until he was 30.

How could it form the basis of a defamation action? Folau hasn’t denied that any of the leaked material is untrue.