Glenn Maxwell's Test career cruelled by World Cup flop

No Warner is perfect for Maxwell. He better in all aspects of the game as well. He is calm now. All that hype is gone. Langer should wake up to himself and get him in. MAxwell likes batting against India as well.

Finch has had his turn in ODI's. Found wanting in the biggest games. Poor technique yet people want to retain him? Bats in the easiest position, doesn't have to worry about run rates, fields up etc. Give Maxwell the openers position and the captaincy. Watch him go! Scored a century as an opener once. Imagine the damage he could do! One caveat though. DON'T pick Smith. Smith's response to Maxwell's dismissal against Archer showed how disrespectful, immature and poor a teammate he is. As soon as Smith returned to the team, Maxwell's performances went downhill. I would love to watch Maxwell lead Australia to the T20 World Cup too. And yes he would be in my Test team ahead of Labuschagne, Burns, Bancroft, Patterson and Mitchell Marsh too.

Shane! Shane! Shane!

Could probably name you about a dozen; changed states, changed techniques, changed from medium pace to offies, married the coach's daughter, a toff even help pay for the best player in the country to tour England in the 1800's as long as he went too.

Whatever reasons and background, Max has tried and won't be considered. Nobody could blame him for putting all his energies into playing the T20 circuit and pulling millions.

@Peter Re Wade, recently with the bat yes, with the bat and the gloves while he was actually part of the Australian team no

has anyone ever done more to further their own Test ambitions than M Wade?

Insult to Injury, On a positive note given the squad who is your current final xv pre internal Australian squad test. A final XV is a little tricky given the 24 players involved. I think we all the know selectors locks are: Warner, Smith, Khawaja (if fit), Paine , Cummins and Lyon . The other five places are sort of up for grabs but subject to the internal game, I think they will go for Harris , Head and James Pattinson if they come through the internal game well. That leaves two. Its a different question as to who we would put in perhaps but depending on the pitch I would go for Hazelwood, Carey and then it comes back to my query on whether four bowlers is enough? . We probably only differ in two positions and Im struggling to pick between Hazelwood and Siddle. May depend on which ground. Id consider Starc at some grounds like Lords perhaps and the argument would be we may need an allrounder to give the bowlers a break at Edgbaston to start so Carey or whoever you like for that position would be in jeopardy

I understand what you are saying, I just have a different opinion and read it differently. Thanks for chatting.

I also just generally refer you to nearly all of ronans comment posts and these stats here by a fellow poster which indicate Maxwell is definitely top 25 especially with his bowling and fielding . Ronans comments generally indicate he has an average of 44 in last two years which is great given he bats down the list he's not going to but until 5 or 6. I think my argument is that he should just be in the 25 for sure and Ronan also indicated he knocked up that ton in India. Ok its different pitch but he's good. One negative someone posted is he may be susceptible to the short ball which may have some merit in england but he's definitely learnt how to be more conservative with red ball and Ronan points out he was moved all over the batting line up and never allowed to settle. No doubt about other players have been given way more chances than Maxwell and come up way shorter. Anyway won't post again as squad is settled but I think this article and the comments I've read favor more for than against for maxwell "Check out the shield averages of players picked before Maxwell and his first class ave 40.60 and those picked in front of him….. As an example…. Labuschagne 37 Burns 40.5 S.Marsh 40.7 M.Marsh 31 A.Finch 35 Handscomb 37 Head 37"

Thats a good point on Wades english wicket success. I thought he had copped an injury. He has failed a lot and was given his cards but he and Head batted pretty well for Australia A. Just remember that Maxwell can bowl and is an exquisite fielder. Old Adage catches win matches for a reason. He's the all rounder option. Id definitely have him in front of mitch marsh who has just had to many starts. Wade/Carey/Head are not bowling options although they can field well enough maxwell wins that count too. Selectors have chosen but plenty disagreeing which was the point of the article

I think it was Maxy's mode of dismissals that hold him in poor light. Can't have a short ball issue against this English attack. Might see Uzzy unstuck too.

Are you saying the one who didn't get him was an Australian captain, or one of the two Victorian captains he had when he believed he wasn't being allowed to bat where he wanted and decided he wanted to go to NSW? There's discussion that the current coach isn't a fan, but is that the current Australian coach, or the Victorian coach - an ex teammate, the state he wanted to leave because he believed he wasn't getting a fair go from?

Forgive me if I’ve missed your description in other threads and I will concede a bowling average around 40 is a borderline pass for a part timer, but Maxwell is continually described as an allrounder, the position I believe requires a more economical return and better strike rate from. I am disputing that it’s acceptable to lower the bar to the point where that type of average, especially on English Test roads will cut it. Mitch Marsh should not be in contention either, as he has had 20 Tests to prove his worth and his average with the ball of 43 doesn’t warrant selection. I find it sad that this discussion is even being held, because it means the state of Shield batting top orders are in a poor state of affairs. The difference of course as I believe you well know, is Head, Harris and Labuschagne are at least five years younger than Maxwell, a similar age as to when Maxwell was first given a chance with a similar average to play Test cricket. If Australia is to climb the Test rankings, then slotting that age group around Warner, Smith, Khawaja and Paine plans for the future while tasting away Tests. If you are selecting purely on results, then a similar aged Wade gives you that option.

He isn't in the top 25 because he doesn't have the temperament for Test cricket and obviously the selectors agree. You want players chosen on form and are happy for Carey to bat and not keep, but nowhere mention Wade, who not only has a bulk of runs 'on flat Aussie tracks', but has reproduced that form in the last month in England. There's plenty to choose a squad of 18 from the 25 and if Maxwell turns starts into hundreds for a county and players get injured, then he's on the spot.

There are about 3 guys in the world who can go that quick consistently - and Maxwell is one of them

Firstly, that is a pretty arbitrary benchmark to use to pick batsmen. It ignores guys making 70, 80, 90. It also means that selectors are happier to pick a player who scores tons more often but gets out cheaply a lot in between, rather than someone who consistently contributes but gets out before reaching that magical 100 mark. That makes very little sense. The fact he is one of only a few players to average in the mid-40s in Shield over the last few years should be a far more relevant stat. The fact that he made runs in India when everyone bar Smith failed should also be a more relevant stat. Secondly, using that benchmark would mean Travis Head, Mitch Marsh. Marnus Labuschagne and Marcus Harris would never have been picked, but they seem to be the chosen ones as far as the selectors are concerned. Head is pretty much earmarked as a future captain and he has 9 tons from 161 FC innings. There's no consistency there. By the way, an average of 40 as a part-time bowling option is perfectly respectable.

Ive only seen Short and Turner in the 20/20 and the one day down under but they looked pretty exceptional talents on those flat pitches to date . Nothing would delight me more but its hard for some of those players to master the frustrating english pitches which make hitting either side of the wicket much harder at times , especially in the opening spells with the new ball where Anderson bowls a bit like McGrath did on a dime waiting for the flashy edge from the Aussies. Carey looked to be a very good timer of the ball , quite elegant . He is already 27 though we should give him a go if there are any failures in the middle order batting line up if he doesn’t start in the first test.

Nope. I rate Marnus.

James perhaps this is it for Maxwell because I think now D Short will be good option at ODIs level because he has more consistency than Maxwell and can have Maxwell type SR