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Best advice I ever heard; You learn nothing by talking. Your opinion only gets stronger when you consider another side of the topic. Anything less is just adding insult to injury.

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Are those quotes for real? They’re the funniest cliches I’ve read in a long time! He must’ve spent ages with the CA publicity and cuddle squads preparing those. Good stuff role model, crisis averted!

Mitch Marsh mourns moment of madness

Excellent, it provoked discussion, job done.

Should Khawaja and Renshaw open against Pakistan?

Your heading is a good question. Your last paragraph is a good answer.

Should Khawaja and Renshaw open against Pakistan?

Of course you can completely ignore the sentence before that, that’s your prerogative.

Starc flops and Carey shines in Sheffield Shield

I’m in thanks Josh, make it happen! If only one of them kicks straighter than Bruce it’s a win!

Five go to St Kilda: How the Saints win an up-Hill battle in six trades

Fair enough, even with 6 bats, I guarantee at some time this season we’ll get comment that we have a middle order problem, regardless of if Pucovski or another young gun is being blooded. I actually think it’s less risky playing with 5 bats at home as the natural characteristics have been taken out of wickets.

It seems that 2 games is a long time in a player or teams development these days. As long as the new selection in conjunction with the coaches have a more long term goal than horses for courses with both bat and ball, because players deserve to be able to ride their International form which is every bit as necessary for bowlers as batsmen getting a regular hit in the middle.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

So then your choice of Burns – despite the reasoning in your article for his inclusion – isn’t the answer either, if he can’t form a matchwinning top 5. I understand you aren’t advocating a top 5, but I would include Burns in a test top 5 to compliment Warner, Labuschagne, Smith & an in form Wade (also based on 2 years of home soil form). Australia is a mid table Test team. I’m advocating choosing a plan where a dominant bowling attack bowls sides out twice precisely because we have more quality bowlers than bats and choose players for that plan, rather than saying we need back up for a structure which isn’t working.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

I just saw some of your comments as bait, much like you last sentence here was amusing in light of the context of your reply. Dismissing Harris’ hundred because of the surface he played on, is akin to demanding an out of form Test player be dropped mid summer, then ignoring his Shield hundreds because they were on January roads against depleted attacks. What else is he supposed to do? As the incumbent, surely that’s what is expected, every bit as much as Warner needed to?

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Obviously our batting hasn’t been as big an issue as you suggest, otherwise you wouldn’t choose a guy who’s averaged 9 in his last 10 Test knocks. If you want to choose him on his Shield ton, then you also have to take into account his follow up golden. Personally, I believe his home form does deserve reward and if in form Test incumbents Smith, Labuschagne and Wade along with any of the recent Shield centurions, with recent century maker Paine form the top six, then they are a better combination than 5 plus Marsh. You know as well as anyone, as a bowler, that you have to take 20 wickets and 5 quality bowlers will always do that more effectively than 4 and a trundler. Five quality bats should do the same thing.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Well, I’d be playing both of them and ditching Marsh. There’s no way you can’t get MMarshes (who’s likely to miss anyway after his recent stupidity) runs out of Pattinson and Starc, combined with Cummins batting ability at home. Then you get 5 bowlers spreading the load, genuine strikers with four fast bowlers and expectation on your top 5 to produce in conjunction with an inform Paine at 6. To me that’s the template for the foreseeable future even when Carey replaces Paine. It’s pure hubris from a mid table Test team to spout off about impressive bowling stocks and then play money ball with them, to the detriment of winning Tests. Those Tests where opponents bat for a day and a half are where 5 bowlers are needed and they are the difference between a ranking of 4-5 or 1-2. Finally, the last 20 years of cricket coaching in Australia has forced young players to choose bat or ball, that has resulted in poor allrounder options, yet selectors persist in believing an allrounder is vital. They aren’t if you have 5 quality bowlers and guys like Pattinson, Starc and Cummins who can produce 80-100 between them. They’ll have to have 4 quality bowlers when Lyon retires to allow a new offie on the job training, so start now and forget about bog ordinary batting allrounders taking a spot for no return.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Great to see Starc get 39 overs under his belt. How many red ball overs in the middle is that since the WC? 90-95. Any wonder he’s off to a slow start. Carrying drinks in 3 jumpers in England while his fellow NSW bowlers were doing a pre-season or actually bowling for Australia in the Ashes isn’t conducive. He’s been part of a 4 prong attack who played in 5 of Australia’s last 6 Ashes wins. I suspect he’s pleased to have match practice under his belt, as any 50 Test veteran knows how to step up when in a baggy green, especially when confident.

Starc flops and Carey shines in Sheffield Shield

Many people are going to be sifting through Test players stats in a decade and are going to look at Mitchell Starc’s record and ask; “did he really average in the 20’s and have the second best strikerate of any Australian Test bowler?” That’s if Cummins, after a full career, stays below Starc’s 49. The contradictory rubbish from critics since the beginning of the Ashes does a quality bowler a real disservice. Apparently ex bowling commentators are falling on deaf ears when they explain that there’s no substitute for bowling in the middle to regain and maintain good form, not to mention gain experience on different surfaces. Now we have armchair experts saying any fast bowler except Starc should play this summer at home, where he produced most of those impressive stats to go with his mid 3 rpo. Ridiculous!

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Nice devils advocate article, so many holes you could drive a truck through it. But, that’s opinion writing, designed to draw comment.

David Warner and Joe Burns should be the openers for the First Test

Wade won’t ever get the gloves again unless the keeper is injured. Which throws up an interesting concussion protocol issue. If you have a batsman not keeping already do you have to bring a keeper/bat in, or can you just bring a bat in? Anyway, even though he’s the most successful Shield captain playing at the moment, that ship has sailed at higher level. I suspect Paine will go out as he came back in, quietly when Smith’s time is up.

Tim Paine finally breaks 13-year drought with his second FC century

Not to mention Khawaja can’t cement a spot at the moment either!

Tim Paine finally breaks 13-year drought with his second FC century

Congratulations Tim, class act.

Tim Paine finally breaks 13-year drought with his second FC century

Yep, internally they’ll be flogged.

Things threaten to get physical between South African teammates

I know what you’re getting at, but while the selectors are looking at shield performers from this early, Harris is one of the performers due to his ton. After his horror Ashes, the selectors will consider how he’s bounced back, the same as Warner has. The expectation on all players who were considered good enough, but struggled in England, was to come home and rebuild their standing. The fact that Harris and Warner weren’t dropped actually works in their favour as their initial rebuild has been successful so far. It can be frustrating, because Aussie selection has traditionally been like that and some players get far more benefit than others, but if you look the number of players who’ve played for Australia versus England, I prefer our overall Test record to theirs.

It’s open season as the scramble for top-order runs begins

Get a reward for form if the right spot is there, survey the setup, ride the wave, expect to be dropped if you fail, come back smarter and hungrier. Every quality batsman has been through that. He won’t be ruined by playing unless he doesn’t have the mental game and nothing so far suggests that.

Warner and Pucovski ton up in Sheffield Shield

Because no 3 is a tough spot and Labuschagne has made a great start at cementing it.

Warner and Pucovski ton up in Sheffield Shield

Ah, cricket, gotta love it! A week ago pundits were lamenting the poor state of top six Aussie options and trying to fit previously tried round players in square holes. Meanwhile Ronan did a piece on the future being bright with young options and now another couple pop up and Warner finds his mojo! Roll on summer!

Warner and Pucovski ton up in Sheffield Shield

Whadda you know, de Kock in an altercation with someone! Rabada is a well known hot head and sledger – as is de Kock – but de Kock needed to defuse the situation, not inflame it, but he can’t help himself. There’s a coupla guys about to lose their match fees.

Things threaten to get physical between South African teammates

He’s an incumbent too, who just made a ton, so don’t be surprised, even if he isn’t your preferred option.

It’s open season as the scramble for top-order runs begins

G’day Ben, I didn’t say Warner should open, just that he will. Mind you Maddinson and Harris have put the pressure on. That’s what a competitive Aussie side needs, Shield form to pressure incumbents, especially incumbents with credits in the bank. If a couple of openers back up with a coupla tons to start the season, then the selectors have a positive discussion. Of course that’s not to say if two openers have a blinder, then they can bat Warner at 5 to restore his form, despite him never having batted there for Australia. Mind you as I write Warner is 90no from a total 143 in the Shield v Qld, so all this may be moot.

It’s open season as the scramble for top-order runs begins

Let it go Pierro, Warner will open.

It’s open season as the scramble for top-order runs begins