Collingwood's failure is all too familiar

By Les Zig / Roar Guru

To fully understand Collingwood’s unraveling over the last couple of months, you need to look past the current muckraking about internal issues.

It’s such lazy journalism. Somebody cites internal issues. Naturally, the club (if asked) would deny it. Nothing is proven or disproven. The accusation still stands. Wow. These people must have sources.

Logically, though, does it make sense?

Outside of the first quarter last week, Collingwood matched Greater Western Sydney and actually won many of the stats – including the inside 50s.

A week earlier, the Pies defeated premiership fancy West Coast on their own turf.

This disharmony is pretty selective, whimsical stuff, because it’s only affecting effort sometimes.

The truth is lots of things have happened that have gnawed away at the fabric of what made the club successful last year.

For much of the season, they’ve missed Taylor Adams and Brayden Sier. The game against GWS was the first match they’d played together. Dayne Beams hasn’t worked out.

It means lacking those first-possession mids who’ll win the ball at any cost, and feed it out to the likes of Scott Pendlenbury, Steele Sidebottom, Adam Treloar and Tom Phillips.

When these guys get to play on the outside, their strengths can be maximised to create, link, and attack – with Pendlebury his class and decision-making, Sidebottom his skill, Treloar his line-breaking pace, and Phillips is gut-running.

However, these guys have been getting dragged inside and being stifled, which means the team loses the bulk of that other productivity.

If you look at the match against West Coast, Jordan de Goey went into the middle and started providing the drive from stoppages. Once that happened, it pushed these other mids into positions that could maximise their strengths.

Jordan De Goey (Photo by Quinn Rooney/Getty Images)

The Magpies clicked into gear – the same gear they sporadically hit against the likes of St Kilda, Carlton and the Bulldogs, when they kicked away in those games.

Because of the midfield’s struggles, they’ve failed to click with arguably the most dominant ruck in the league – Brodie Grundy. There’s no real synergy. The midfield is too often caught flat-footed and trying to handball their way out of congestion, but nobody’s providing any run. Often, it’s seemed as if Grundy has got frustrated and decided to start doing it himself by plucking it out of the ruck or tapping to his own advantage.

The defence started strongly, but has become pockmarked. Jeremy Howe and Tom Langdon have both missed games (and Langdon will miss the rest of the season), which means Collingwood have been deprived of their intercept marking and go-to defenders who can play tall and small.

Darcy Moore started brightly but has struggled with injury. Jordan Roughead has been a great addition, but he’s the cornerstone the defence is built on, rather than the fanatical counter-attacker.

In regards to the defensive runners, Brayden Maynard has occasionally been forced to play tall, while Jack Crisp seems to be playing higher. James Aish has been in and out. Nathan Buckley has used Levi Greenwood and Chris Mayne as stopgaps. With no disrespect to either player, they’re blue collar, rather than fast, manic counter-attackers – like Crisp and Maynard as their best – who can break open opposition.

They’ve often been dragged to the last line also and neither are last-line defenders. Opposition coaches must salivate at the prospect of Greenwood or Mayne (and Aish) being dragged to fullback. This has meant the talls have been sucked up the ground, which has left their defensive structure inverted.

In short, the run’s gone, which is why they’ve been gambling on the likes of Isaac Quaynor, John Noble, and Flynn Appleby.

Last year, the unpredictability of the forward line was a strength. In any given week, you could expect Jaidyn Stephenson, Jordan de Goey, Will Hoskin-Elliott, or Josh Thomas to pop up and kick goals. Brody Mihocek played as a running tall. Mason Cox drifted in and out. As an opposition coach, it was impossible to plan against, because the side never relied on just one or two players being the go-to forward.

This year, it felt like Jamie Elliott was being nursed into his return through full-forward, while Stephenson was initially thrown back.

Jamie Elliott (AAP Image/Tracey Nearmy)

Since Elliott’s injuries, Stephenson and de Goey have both camped at full forward, which has meant other smaller forwards have been pushed wide and high, and Mihocek and Cox are drifting up higher. The loss of Stephenson has hurt, as he constantly presented with relentless leading which was impossible to zone against.

Now, the forwards struggle more so because of what’s happening further afield.

The Pies move the ball glacially, which allows the opposition to flood back. When Collingwood near their forward 50, they bomb the ball blindly to Cox, hoping he can drag in a miracle mark, but opposition swarm and maul him (again, Cox may miss this week with general soreness – is it any wonder that’s happening with this delivery).

Once the ball hits the ground, there has been nobody to crumb or to apply pressure to opposition taking the ball out. De Goey plays more as a lead-up forward. Josh Daicos has had limited chances. Callum Brown has shown glimpses. They lack the Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti-type – a small forward who can apply frenetic pressure and capitalise on half-chances. Travis Varcoe had done this to some extent, but is struggling. Josh Thomas is now in the reserves.

The team has become predictable, and failed to adapt as they did last year when injuries hit. In 2019, it’s bomb, bomb, bomb, and hope for the best.

A forward line of Gary Ablett Snr, Tony Lockett and Peter Daicos would struggle in that system, let alone Mason Cox and Brody Mihocek – both players who are actually still inexperienced (Cox has played 56 games, and Mihocek 33 games).

Compare that to the clash against the Eagles, when Collingwood tried to move the ball quickly and with purpose. Suddenly, Cox and Mihocek looked dangerous. Wayne Carey cited people are dreaming if they believe Cox would reproduce his 2018 preliminary final form.

The difference between that game and this year isn’t Cox but the delivery. In the prelim, they dropped it out in front for him to lead to. Now they’re bombing it high.

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Every facet of the side is misfiring. Whereas last year injuries provided opportunity – the injury to Ben Reid forced them to play a smaller, and unpredictable forward line – this year they’ve lost players they can’t afford to lose and failed to adapt.

However talented the list, however talented the individuals, teamwork is about chemistry. Players have to complement one another and that’s no longer happening.

Shifts have changed the team dynamic. It seems the only thing the coaching staff have done to try change this is throw de Goey in the middle, and to rely on three youngster to solve their lack of run out of defence.

The worst problem here is that this form decline has happened before. Last year’s surprise effort and getting within 90 seconds of winning a flag has wiped clean a lot of memories.

But as I watch now, I don’t wonder what’s happening. I don’t gravitate to rumours of internal issues. I don’t think it’s rocket science.

I watch and see exactly what I’ve seen again and again and again.

Collingwood reached the halfway point of the 2014 and 2015 seasons with an 8-3 record. In the second half of those seasons, they went 3-8 and 2-9 respectively, crashing ingloriously out of the top eight.

In 2016 and 2017, they just muddled their way through.

When things start going wrong, when they don’t have their ideal team to execute their ideal gameplan, they struggle.

In Nathan Buckley’s eight years, Collingwood have always been top-of-the-table with injuries. One year is an outlier. Two years is bad luck. Three years? Well, you’d have to start asking questions. But eight years? Nobody queries it. The club itself don’t seem to investigate it. It’s almost accepted now that they’ll just keep happening.

Magpies head coach Nathan Buckley. (Photo by Quinn Rooney/Getty Images)

Throughout 2014 – 17 I defended Buckley. In two drafts, they netted Matthew Scharenberg, Nathan Freeman, Ben Kennedy, Tim Broomhead, Jackson Ramsey, Jonathan Marsh, and Brodie Grundy – that’s one hit from seven choices (five of those in the top 20). Then throw in recycled players such as Jordan Russell, Clinton Young, and Quinten Lynch who didn’t work out.

You have few players coming in, while haemorrhaging the likes of Heath Shaw, Dale Thomas, Sharrod Wellingham, Chris Dawes, Darren Jolly, Andrew Krakouer, Alan Didak, and Ben Johnson.

So they tried to rebuild but didn’t get quality in and when they did, the players struggled with ongoing injuries, as was the cases with Scharenberg, Freeman and Young.

Belatedly, the Pies finally started getting that list management right and then it became a case of waiting as they pumped games into the inexperienced players and developed a system.

Richmond’s flag wasn’t made uniquely in 2017, nor was Bulldogs’ in 2016. The same with Hawthorn’s three-peat or Geelong’s multiple flags. These were all a result of long-term construction.

It seemed logical that once Collingwood had got experience into their players, once they’d got some continuity together, they’d rise up the ladder.

And they did that in 2018. Even if they lost the grand final, it seemed they’d arrived and would at least be in contention a few more seasons. That’s the way of things, right?

Yet it’s already being undone.

Carlton and North replaced their coaches, and they were immediately galvanised. I’m not suggesting Buckley be replaced, I simply cite those clubs to show that different handling of the same list produced different results.

From the outside looking in, Collingwood’s strategy is to do the same thing yet again and hope desperately at some point it’ll click. In all likelihood, it won’t.

They do have the benefit of some players coming back, but is it too late?

If the deteriorating continues, if they’re to yield the same result, who could ever have faith in this coaching and playing group to ever produce a different outcome? Even if they were sitting 11–0 in 2020, why should anybody be confident they’ll keep motoring forward given the crushing weight of historical evidence?

The challenge now is for the coaching staff to work out a new way through their issues, rather than repeat the mistakes of the past.

The Crowd Says:

2020-08-19T14:30:33+00:00

Harvey Mawson

Guest


2020 has been a disaster for the Pies after the Footscray game. Even last year, our small forwards produced goals...Josh Thomas 20+ goals. Stephenson 30 plus goals, Hoskin Elliot 30 plus goals. They have hardly fired a shot this year. Poor Miochek busts his gut every week but he can’t do it all on his own. Much as we love Reidy, he’s now too slow & dose not impact games. Cameron is not a match winner. Only one mark against Melbourne. It’s time the big American was put back into the side. He has a good football brain & is a target at any time. Pursevere with Mason because he will find form. He also creates opportunities for the small forwards. It’s ridiculous that this man is not in our team. And most of all....move the ball quicker! When we do that...play on style, keep it flowing game, we can match it with the best. We pray. Wake up coaching staff before this season’s blown away.

2019-07-29T08:18:56+00:00

Robocall

Guest


Can't believe they recruited Wells! Surprise surprise he got injured...

2019-07-29T03:31:02+00:00

Mario Lia

Guest


Same excuse for the Pies every year injuries. Other teams have injuries to. Every time Collingwood play it is put up on the screen many times on whom is out injured for Collingwood even names of players who are not in there best 22. Remember between about round 5 until they played eagles a few weeks ago they had a soft draw of hardly playing any top 8 teams and they struggled to win a lot of those games. May be they are not quite good enough to be a top 4 side.

2019-07-29T00:47:48+00:00

Shan B

Guest


Very early to be calling for Buckley's head again! As a Pies supporter I was concerned about our lacklustre ball use prior to the loss to Freomantle, having limped over the line against poor quality opposition such as Essendon. We have rarely been convincing this year, notable exceptions have been against Brisbane and West Coast. My honest appraisal is injuries and player losses in key areas that we have been unable to fill, rather then anything to do with coaching is our most toxic issue. Buckley has little to do with players making poor betting choices off the field or mental health struggles. Add to that another horror run of injuries, it's just poor luck that we have lost the wrong players; albeit soft tissue issues are a recurring problem though I don't see this as a head coach issue. Last year as noted we were galvanised by injuries as we became less predicable and fringe players took opportunities with both hands. Playing in back to back premierships happens very rarely, you need allot of luck to win a GF and nearly as much to make one. This year we just haven't had that and have still performed moderately well, it could very easily change in the next few rounds. I see no evidence that we have neither the personal nor the coach to match it with the best. To even talk about pulling the trigger on Buckley, a now popular players coach would undoubtedly be a disastrous move for the club.

2019-07-29T00:35:09+00:00

Shan B

Guest


It is outrageous to suggest that Collingwood would sack Buckley after losing 3 - 3, with one of those games being to high quality opposition Richmond, whilst sitting 6th on the ladder. Also, North have had a surge, though that has dropped also having lost their last 3 games. Time will tell if they pulled the trigger too early on their coach, which is the hallmark of poor performing sides. Virtually all successful sides have stuck by their man to get the result, case in point being Richmond. I can only imagine the articles that were written about Hardwick prior to Richmond's premiership by some of the commentators on this feed.

2019-07-28T15:04:51+00:00

George Apps

Roar Rookie


Do you mean "wary"?

2019-07-28T14:59:19+00:00

George Apps

Roar Rookie


Your analysis is spot on Les. Collingwood being hamstrung by injuries is a major part of it, but I feel Buckley could also be more imaginative on game day with what he's got at his disposal. Predictability, "sticking to the system" and slow disposal is hurting any chance of being more competitive.

2019-07-28T08:26:30+00:00

ChrisH

Roar Rookie


I suspect Buckley walked under a ladder while smashing a mirror over black cat. Or maybe the footy gods are just p*ssed off with Eddie.

2019-07-28T06:44:07+00:00

Insult_2_Injury

Roar Rookie


Isn't it an historical fact that Collingwood are rubbish in June - July? It's obvious if they want to do anything for the rest of the season they need to sack Buckley! It's worked for Carlton, North & St Kilda. Maybe coaches should only be appointed for 6-8 games now, maybe that's the attention span of players now to hold a game plan.

2019-07-28T03:00:29+00:00

Chris

Guest


I think the Irishman has got no clue whatsoever as to what he's doing. Gaelic football and cross-country running are a far cry from the AFL. But, the real issue remains with the recruiting staff. What type of players are the looking for? They simple don't have the physique or technique to last in the rough and tumble of AFL. They break down all too frequently and this is a DNA thing, pure and simple. Not cut out to be first grade long-term AFL players. Flashes in the pan is a better description.

2019-07-26T21:20:41+00:00

Boo

Guest


Is Buckley a good coach?Take out the prelim against Richmond and IMO the answer is no.I also think there are too many players under six foot on the list under particularly the onballers.

2019-07-26T07:33:02+00:00

Goodie

Roar Rookie


True

2019-07-26T07:11:23+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Adams is out. That's Adams and Sier out, both our inside mids. Injury curse continues. Pies performance team needs replacing.

2019-07-26T07:07:23+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


I'd also argue Les that since round 11 we have won 3 lost 3. Hardly unravelling yet, particularly if we win the next 5.

2019-07-26T02:26:24+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Love this theory of sides "now showing up" or "sending out 18 witches hats". You really think in modern football, especially in a cut throat final, the sides aren't finely tuned to be in the best possible state running through the banner? Some sides just get a jump, their confidence soars which has a domino effect of taking more risks and suddenly, like GWS last week, they are 7 goals up.

2019-07-26T02:24:00+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Beams, Dunn, Wells and Langdon won't return this year though Ben. Moore, Sier and Aish should though Sier has been in poor form.

2019-07-26T02:22:00+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Now this comment Tom is a part I do agree with. I neglected to agree with Les’assessment of the Pies conditioning and performance staff who must have secured their medical degrees online. If I was Ed I would sack the lot and go poach the best from other clubs. When it happens every now and then it’s luck, when it happens every single year for seven years straight, it’s incompetence.

2019-07-26T01:54:53+00:00

Timbo's rules

Guest


So last year the Pies were gifted two finals. Against the Giants the umpiring (in a final) was as disgraceful as I have ever seen and Richmond sent out 18 witches hats. Talk of a Pies resurgance was just that, talk. They are currently a 5th or 6th level side, which is likely where they will end up in 5 weeks time.

2019-07-26T00:56:08+00:00

Ben S

Guest


Love it!!! This club, despite a debilitating two year's, continues to thrive when our backs are to the wall. Write us off at your peril, but be prepared to give credit when due! Just as Richmond have gained many of it's best in recent weeks, so too will the Pies come September! And I can guarantee, both the backline and forwardline, will look much different come finals. As shaky as the post bye performance's have been, you can bet all coaches in the top eight, are just as weary of Collingwood's best, as ever before... Bring on tonight's game and hurry up September! GO PIES !!!

2019-07-26T00:26:34+00:00

Tom Salamouras

Guest


Les, very incisive article. As you have stated it seems Collingwood has not learned from its past. Yes they were 90 seconds away from a premiership in 2018 but they are a decade away from understanding player and medical conditioning. Every year for the past 7 years we see Collingwood's injury list as one of, if not, the worst in the league. We keep hearing that a player's injury is only minor and yet 12-13 weeks later the same player is still unavailable to play. Either their training methods are too rigorous, their medical/conditioning staff too blase or they are just plain unlucky. In any event, they need to review all of this for 2020. All is not lost for 2019 but the chances of under-manned Pies side making the GF are remote to say the least.

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