Why Scott West is best

By Jesse Dart / Roar Rookie

Imagine if history left Steven Gerrard behind because he never lifted a Premier League trophy or Patrick Ewing because he could never quite drag that horrendous Knicks roster to a ring.

It sounds insane. Both are legends of their craft, famous for the respect they commanded from their home crowds. The AFL is quantifiably different, however; with a much smaller market, players can very easily become cult heroes and icons for their on-field exploits. See Nic Natinui, for example, who isn’t a top-three ruckman but has more presence than the pope in Western Australia.

But a very interesting discussion with a friend recently got me thinking of underrated and forgotten players, and at the top of the list is Scott West.

Right off the bat, let’s establish that West never won an AFL premiership. And to be honest, despite a couple of good runs into September, the Doggies were never really legitimate contenders. In fact despite playing in 12 finals, West was on the winning side just three times. Those games were:

There are a couple of things that jump out at you straight away. Firstly, the Bulldogs did not win a final in eight years. That’s a sad illustration of just how bad they were in the early 2000s. Secondly, West torched Collingwood in his last finals win if anything above 25 disposals is considered good for a midfielder and anything above 35 is a brilliant effort, especially in a final.

But how did West perform in losing finals? Was he a choker when his team needed him? Here are the disposal counts from his nine losing finals:

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Five of the nine games (against Geelong in 1994 and 1995, Adelaide in 1997 and 1998 and West Coast in 2006) featured teams that played in that year’s grand final. West averages 27.4 disposals in those games.

His overall finals disposal average is 26.92, but if you take out 1994, his second season in the league, it rises to 28.6. If we are classing 25 disposals per game as star player numbers, to average nearly 29 disposals per game in finals is a testament to his ball magnet ways.

The Bulldogs didn’t make the finals between 2001 and 2005, five seasons of West’s prime form spent on a team that couldn’t finish in the top half of the league.

While evidently West did not have tremendous team success, which admittedly is a big markdown when judging someone’s legacy, his individual success is much better and much more attractive.

His Charlie Sutton medals are easily his best argument for greatness. Awarded to the best and fairest player for the Western Bulldogs in a season, West holds the record for most medals, winning it on seven occasions. His wins came in 1995, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2004 and 2005.

Scott West is badly underrated. (Hamish Blair/Getty Images)

That is a mind-boggling run of consistency to maintain. He won his first medal in just his third season and his last in his 13th, and considering he finished second in the Brownlow Medal in 2006, he probably should’ve won an eighth Sutton Medal in his 14th season of AFL football. That is truly a testament to his ability as a player.

Speaking of the Brownlow Medal, he is one of the greatest players to not win the award. Incredibly, he finished runner-up twice, in 2000 and 2006; finished third in 1999; and came fourth in 2004 and 2005. That is just shattering. He arguably deserved it in 2000 – Shane Woewodin polled two votes in the last game, which surprised many – and he was regarded by many, including the legendary Lou Richards, to be the best player in the league in 2006.

Keep in mind that Matt Priddis, who is essentially a devolved Scott West, has a Brownlow Medal. For all the other years you can justify the actual winners, but nobody over that period had the consistency of West. He has the 13th most ever career votes and still couldn’t take home a medal.

His All Australian selections total five – 1998, 2000, 2004, 2005 and 2006. To be selected just once for that team is an honour, but five times cements a legacy. Another lesser-known fact is that he had the most disposals of the competition in 2005 and 2006 and the most handballs in 1998, 2000, 2003 and 2006.

In 2002, having won four Charlie Sutton medals already in his nine-season career, West was named in the Western Bulldogs team of the century, staking his claim among such greats as Doug Hawkins, Ted Whitten and Chris Grant. He essentially booted Tony Liberatore, one of the club’s most beloved players and the 1990 Brownlow medallist, to the interchange bench. Whichever way you want to look at it, if the team of the century selectors believed West was more deserving than Libba of a spot in the starting line-up, that should say something. And yet Liberatore is infinitely more remembered than West.

Another distinct honour West received – and the last one for this piece because we need to move on – was his 2013 induction into the AFL hall of fame. There’s not really much I can say here besides it being a completely justified move and that he deserves to be in among the greats.

Let’s compare him to one of the icons of the 1990s and 2000s, Nathan Buckley. Make no mistake about it, Buckley is one of the champions of the game, but I would argue that West’s career is just as good, if not better, than Nathan Buckley’s.

Statistic West Buckley Advantage
Seasons played 16 15 West
Games played 324 280 West
Brownlow Medals 0 1 Buckley
Premierships 0 0 Even
Disposals per game 25.38 24.6 West
Goals 104 284 Buckley
Brownlow votes 175 178 Buckley
Tackles 853 642 West

Those numbers come across a variety of categories, with the score finishing at 3-3-1. And yet I can promise you if you ask someone who is better out of the two, they’ll either instinctively say Buckley or ask you who Scott West is.

Somehow the best player at the Whitten Oval in the last two decades has become an afterthought.

The Crowd Says:

2019-08-02T17:13:30+00:00

Jack A

Guest


West was a genuine star and never underated in my books. Natinui is arguably the best ruckman in the comp when fit. We haven’t seen much of him for 3 odd years (his prime) but he tore Grundy apart in R17 last year before doing his knee and he dominated Grundy again a few weeks ago before he was injured in the 1st quarter. Nic was clearly the better ruckman in their last two meetings.

2019-08-02T05:18:40+00:00

Billbob

Roar Rookie


Champion

AUTHOR

2019-08-02T03:51:08+00:00

Jesse Dart

Roar Rookie


I suppose I am getting a bit nitpicky, as for Tredrea I absolutely agree, in his prime he was phenomenal. I'll keep this going with Matthew Boyd, another Doggies midfielder that doesn't seem to get a lot of love.

2019-08-02T03:43:33+00:00

TomC

Roar Guru


I'm afraid I don't really understand your point, but I guess we're arguing about semantics. For what it's worth, Port Adelaide were considered very serious premiership contenders in 2002 and 2003. And on historically underrated players, Warren Tredrea surely deserves a mention.

2019-08-02T03:03:24+00:00

IAP

Guest


What are you talking about? A team that is 4 goals in front at 3 quarter time is clearly a serious flag contender.

2019-08-02T02:59:26+00:00

Rissole

Roar Rookie


Took someone breaking his knee just to bring him down in a tackle.

AUTHOR

2019-08-02T02:53:50+00:00

Jesse Dart

Roar Rookie


You raise an excellent point and having watched a rerun of the match semi recently (never got to see the match sadly, I was too busy not being born) I agree that loss seemed pretty shocking even without the context of the full season. My issue with naming that Bulldogs side serious flag contenders is similar to the issues I have with the Port Adelaide side before their 2004 flag. They did as they pleased during the home and away season, but come finals time they didn't cut the mustard. It's not like Brisbane were tripping them up each time, their exits came at the hands of Hawthorn (granted they did lose to Brisbane in the qualifying final), then Brisbane and lastly Collingwood in 2003. Finals football is a different beast, which is why (as much as I don't enjoy saying this) I believe Richmond or West Coast will win the flag this season. When a team riding high comes up against a proven finals side they often stumble to a "shock" loss. That didn't happen to this Bulldogs side, Adelaide were far from proven, but it does further highlight the fact that you can be fantastic for 22 weeks but still not be a serious contender. Ironically the only side off the top of my head to exempt themselves from this rule is the Bulldogs in 2016, so swings and roundabouts I suppose.

2019-08-02T02:43:54+00:00

TomC

Roar Guru


Even when Harvey was playing - and was clearly the best midfielder in the league - he never got the credit he deserved. He just wasn't an eyecatching, charismatic player like some of the others. He won pretty much every award there was to win but he wasn't appearing in a lot of ads or getting a lot of attention.

2019-08-02T02:28:13+00:00

TomC

Roar Guru


The Dogs were very serious flag contenders in both 97 and 98. In 1998 they were top of the ladder for most of the season. That big loss to Adelaide in the prelim seemed to come from nowhere.

2019-08-02T02:07:00+00:00

JamesH

Roar Guru


Haha I reckon I dodged a bullet, Col! Although some might argue I landed right in the path of a bus!

AUTHOR

2019-08-02T02:05:44+00:00

Jesse Dart

Roar Rookie


As a Fremantle supporter who sees about 30 atrocious handballs on a weekly basis, I'd love him in the team to do it properly.

AUTHOR

2019-08-02T02:01:04+00:00

Jesse Dart

Roar Rookie


Writing this piece about an underrated 2000s midfielder was down to Harvey, who's lack of credit is a crime, and West, but I went with the latter because at least Harvey has two Charlies. For me the legacy West leaves has also been hampered by his lack of post playing interaction in the AFL sphere. Using the three you've mentioned; Hird coached Essendon and although what went on should have tarnished his reputation more, he's still thought of as a great. Buckley has done a good job coaching the Pies, while Judd spends his retirement complaining about things and taking potshots at David Teague. We just don't hear from West enough for him to build his legacy and remind people how good he was.

AUTHOR

2019-08-02T01:55:34+00:00

Jesse Dart

Roar Rookie


They were but there are plenty of teams that are one year contention wonders that don't really warrant being out and out contenders. Fremantle & Adelaide in 2006 North Melbourne in 2007 Port Adelaide in 2014 Melbourne in 2018 Those are just the sides off the top of head, I'm sure there's plenty more I'm missing. None of those teams except maybe at a stretch Adelaide were a serious flag contender and none of them went onto anything. Freo finished 14th the following year and sacked their coach, Port have been hovering but never serious and Melbourne this year have been a disaster. Making a Prelim and losing it, no matter how well you may have played in it, doesn't make you a serious flag contender, it makes you a contender at best.

AUTHOR

2019-08-02T01:46:47+00:00

Jesse Dart

Roar Rookie


Outside of maybe Cousins he'd have to be one of the first picks year in year out.

2019-08-02T01:11:57+00:00

another paul

Roar Rookie


Loved watching him go about it, he was truly great.... and those 40m hand balls!!!!!!!!

2019-08-02T00:28:48+00:00

Col from Brissie

Roar Guru


Gee whiz James, how did your dad let you put on a red & black jumper instead of the mighty navy blue & white one? I went better than that - my dad was a mad Collingwood supporter and my mum is a mad Richmond supporter. Growing up in the 60’s and early 70’s was fun times at our house.

2019-08-01T23:33:09+00:00

JamesH

Roar Guru


I've never thought of West as being underrated but maybe that's because my Dad (a Blues fan) often used to go on about what a star he was. Always admired him, particularly his incredible consistency. I suppose if he'd played for a bigger club we'd hear more about him. I guess that's also why Robert Harvey isn't spoken about the way that guys like Hird, Buckley and Judd are.

2019-08-01T23:22:24+00:00

IAP

Guest


Never really legitimate contenders? They were 4 goals up at 3 quarter time in 1997 against Adelaide.

2019-08-01T12:22:05+00:00

Grant

Guest


Great article Jesse. I guarantee his legacy would be different if we had fantasy footy during the peak of his career

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