Are we paying enough attention to our spinning depth?

By Stephen Vagg / Roar Guru

Nathan Lyon has just matched Dennis Lille’s record for Test match wickets.

That’s an incredible achievement, especially for someone plucked for national honours after only a few first-class games, and who has been dropped for Xavier Doherty and Ashton Agar. He’s fantastic and hopefully, he’s got a few more years left at the Test level.

But who’s next?

If Lyon got injured or lost form what would we do? Play fast bowlers? What if the pitch spun? Hope we can get by with part-time contributions from Marnus Labuschagne, Travis Head, Steve Smith and David Warner?

You can say “Oh Lyon’s pretty good with injuries” but it does happen. Shane Warne was injured. So was Stuart MacGill.

Who is next cab on the rank?

I guess it’s Jon Holland, who was picked on the Australian A tour, and who was Australia’s second spinner in the UAE. But he underwhelmed there and the selectors have decided to omit him from the Ashes squad.

I can kind of see the logic. Kind of. They want to win the Ashes with fast bowlers.

But it’s a risky strategy. They’re putting all their spinning eggs in the Lyon basket, and that can backfire. We saw this in the World Cup squad when there was no all-rounder back up for Glenn Maxwell and Marcus Stoinis – the selectors didn’t have anywhere to go.

And there is room in the squad – they’ve got Michael Neser and Mitch Marsh in there for crying out loud.

We should be developing our back up spinners and that means taking a second one on the Ashes squad.

I’m still a fan of Steve O’Keefe. He’s one of the most shockingly misused cricketers in this country this century – his omission from the 2011 Sri Lanka tour still boggles the mind, not to mention the 2013 India tour, the 2013 Ashes and…anyway, let’s move on.

O’Keefe almost won us a series in India in 2017 but since then has been considered surplus to requirements because of…um…er…um… “hint, hint, hint” seems to be the overriding reason.

Australia should have taken him as well as Holland to the UAE last year. He has 35 Test wickets at 29.40 and 285 first-class wickets at 24.79. Those are outstanding stats. Last summer he took 20 first-class wickets at 27.95 which is still good. He’s 34 which isn’t ancient.

Then there’s Holland, who disappointed in the UAE to be sure, but who still has a fine first-class record – he took 26 wickets last summer at 28.15 and has 229 wickets overall at 31.94.

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If they didn’t want to take O’Keefe in the Ashes squad they should have taken Holland. To not do so is not only risky but speaks to the general contempt modern-day Australian cricket has for spinners.

Who else is coming up?

There’s Mitchell Swepson, spruiked for ages by Shane Warne, which is always a concern but his numbers aren’t bad. He’s a Queensland spinner too which is always harder and is only 25 – last summer he took 24 wickets at 38.16 and has 98 wickets at 36.38. He’s worth tracking – let’s see how he goes over the next three years.

Fawad Ahmed has 205 first-class wickets at 31.11 – only nine of them last year. He’s 37 now and is very very unlikely to play for Australia (he was cut from the Victorian contract list) but I love that he’s still playing first-class cricket.

Our domestic cricketers can only get better against spin playing someone like Ahmed – I get Victoria wants to bring new people but I hope he goes somewhere like Tasmania for a few seasons because we’re a better cricketing nation for him to bowl.

Ashton Agar has 137 wickets at 39.11 but seems to have gone out of fashion. I don’t think Agar’s ever going to turn into what they dreamed – he made his Test debut in 2013 – but I hope he has a long first-class career and we could see him back in one-day colours, maybe even Test whites…though who knows.

It feels as though the selectors have fallen out of love with him a little but that can always change unless you’re Steve O’Keefe.

Adam Zampa seems to be forever a one-day specialist – he has 102 first-class wickets at 47.09 – but you never know.

People love Lloyd Pope but nine first-class wickets at 51.33 isn’t great, but again, you never know.

You’ve got part-timers – Labuschagne with 49 first-class wickets at 42.85, which isn’t bad. Neither is Maxwell’s (remember him?) 70 wickets at 40.64. Ashton Turner only has 11 at 46.09 and Head has 41 at 63.39.

Modern-day Australian cricket has a culture problem with spinners. It gets papered over by superstar players like Warne and Lyon but is easily exposed when injuries happen.

Spinners need support – not just from captains, though that is crucial (Michael Clarke, for instance, was a very good captain of spinners but Ricky Ponting less so), but also selectors and administrators.

And that means making sure we have solid back up plans.

The Crowd Says:

2019-08-18T05:14:36+00:00

John Erichsen

Roar Guru


I am not sure we "found" Lyon. He wasn't discovered, he was made. By selectors, for the first time since Warne retired, sticking with a spinner for more than a series or so. Lyon wasn't a test quality bowler for years but the selectors stubbornly refused to drop him. Now he is rated as our best ever off spinner. I don't believe he is. He is merely the Australian offie who has played a bucket load more tests than anyone else. He is now, however, a vastly improved bowler and deserving of his test spot.

2019-08-18T05:09:44+00:00

John Erichsen

Roar Guru


Great point. The more truthful take would be that O'Keefe bowled is to an unexpected victory in Pune and did little else to impress.

2019-08-17T09:13:35+00:00

Gee

Roar Rookie


And the sad thing is that Lyon isn't that great either. He is respectable now but 15 years ago he would of been behind MacGill and Miller as the understudy to Warne.

2019-08-17T04:44:26+00:00

Targa

Guest


I'm pleased and surprised that Will Somerville was never given a baggy green so he headed home to NZ. He won us a test v Pakistan in the UAE on debut and will hopefully win us another today over in Sri Lanka.

2019-08-17T00:23:58+00:00

ols

Roar Pro


Ironically the quest to find the next "Warne" may end up mirrored by the quest to find the next "Lyon"

2019-08-16T23:08:38+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


"To not do so is not only risky but speaks to the general contempt modern-day Australian cricket has for spinners". I think you're simplifying two very different issues, Stephen. The first point is the lack of quality spinners in first class cricket in Australia. I agree O'Keefe is by far our next best option after Lyon, but it doesn't say much for our spinning stocks when you trot out the numbers for him, Bennett, Swepson, etc. None inspire any great confidence they could do ANY sort of a job for Australia, especially in Australia. I don't doubt another great spinner will emerge, but we might have to go through another lean patch before we find a Lyon. I think where real contempt for spinners is shown, is with the pitches that these guys have to play on and the bias towards fast bowling with the use of Duke balls in the second half of the season. Curators need to make 4 day pitches which will naturally deteriorate, so a spinner can come into the game. As it stands, it seems to me they make a "one size fit's all" pitch that might helps the quicks, but generally favours batsmen, especially when it comes to short form cricket. If we can get a few more pitches to actually turn, maybe more guys might try and make a career as a spinner.

2019-08-16T22:50:59+00:00

qwetzen

Roar Rookie


"O’Keefe almost won us a series in India in 2017..." Since when has doing badly in 3 out of 4 Tests translated into; "almost won us a series"? Like Starc in the last WC, O'Keefe went missing when the going got serious. In the last 3 Tests of that (4 Test) series 7w @ 53.1 tells the actual story.

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